--- Log opened Tue Dec 20 00:00:30 2016
01:33 -e(e@freenode/staff/spy.edk)- [global notice] Good morning! Please read the following announcement from freenode's infrastructure team: https://freenode.net/news/PSA-brief-update-infra
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13:01 #navit: <@kazer> hi there
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13:50 #navit: <@kazer> hey robertp
13:53 #navit: < robertp> hi kazer
13:56 #navit: <@kazer> how are you doing robertp ?
14:04 #navit: < robertp> spare time x motivation = 0
14:16 #navit: < robertp> kazer, how is your arduino knowledge?
14:24 #navit: <@kazer> is spare time 0, or motivation 0? I want to know which one we need to fix :)
14:25 #navit: <@kazer> robertp: i'm not an expert, but i can get my projects working. Last week i started an OBD emulator to test some code to manage OBD codes
14:26 #navit: < robertp> I'd need some information about the bootloader, because I am implementing one for my dashboard device.
14:26 #navit: < robertp> The bootloader can transfer the software to the avr, anything else?
14:28 #navit: < robertp> If there is some motivation, there will be no time and vice versa...
14:30 #navit: <@kazer> sounds correct. I don't think that the bootloader does anything else. I know that some bootloaders (like on ESP devices) will require a pin to be grounded to go into flash mode, and otherwise they will boot into regular mode
14:31 #navit: <@kazer> i haven't really fiddled with arduinos bootloaders because i never really needed too, but i did when i was using an openmoko freerunner.
14:31 #navit: <@kazer> you might be interested in reading http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Bootloader and http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/U-Boot
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14:42 #navit: < gernot_> hi
14:42 #navit: <@kazer> hi gernot_
14:43 #navit: <@kazer> robertp: when you'll have more time, i'd like to leverage the audio framework to start enhancing the configuration process. For example, currently we need to enable plugins manually in the config file, and it sucks. Auto discovery of plugins and enabling/disabling them (like we do for vehicles) would be so much better
14:52 #navit: < robertp> the crowd wanted us to disable the plugin by default, didn't it? So I don't really understand... Can you explain a little more detailed?
14:55 #navit: <@kazer> the plugin would still be disabled by default using cmake. But if you build with the plugins enabled, we could leverage plugins detection to enable a plugin or not
14:56 #navit: <@kazer> (the idea would be to avoid having to tweak the xml file when you want to enable a plugin)
15:02 #navit: < gernot_> I dont use a bootloader in my AVR projets. I use a FTDI chip dor serial communication and 4 FTDI statuslanes for ISP programming
15:05 #navit: < robertp> gernot_, that sounds intersting. can you give some details?
15:08 #navit: < gernot_> The FTDI chip has a 8 bit parallel bitbang mode which i Use.
15:09 #navit: < gernot_> But its a bit unprfessional.
15:12 #navit: < gernot_> http://pastebin.com/z0LFiqsk
15:12 #navit: < gernot_> But code need adapted to the used AVR
15:17 #navit: < gernot_> I yust wrote it for one project. USB eventcounter/recorder.
15:18 #navit: < robertp> which avr did you use?
15:18 #navit: < gernot_> I used an Mega88
15:20 #navit: < robertp> Ok, I use AT90CAN128, mostly with the jtag interface. But i learned that standby wont work with jtag enabled so I am searching for a way to re-enable jtag through USB
15:20 #navit: < robertp> I have a ft232bl for a usb bootloader, but this wont set the fusebits.
15:21 #navit: < gernot_> Ok. is Jtag a fusebit?
15:21 #navit: < gernot_> You can rewrite the Code to set the fusebit
15:22 #navit: < robertp> I'd need to port it to w*ndows anyway. :D
15:22 #navit: < robertp> Jtag is enabled or disabled by a fusebit.
15:24 #navit: < gernot_> If you use the ftdi statuslanes watch that some FTDI pins are inputs or outputs by default. Use an "dafault" imput for the Reset Signal.
15:24 #navit: < gernot_> I think check for windows code...
15:25 #navit: < gernot_> sorry, no windows code
15:29 #navit: < gernot_> But code for more modern 4-Byte AVR
15:32 #navit: < gernot_> http://pastebin.com/PzwZu2Fx
15:32 #navit: < gernot_> I dont write fuses with it so you need to adapt
15:34 #navit: < robertp> thank you, i'll look into it.
16:17 #navit: < gernot_> by
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20:30 #navit: < Navit> The following compiles failed: http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/android_armv5te/svn/navit-svn-7147.failed http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/openmoko/svn/navit-svn-7147.failed http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/win32/svn/navit-svn-7147.failed http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/n800/svn/navit-svn-7147.failed http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/android_armv4t/svn/navit-svn-7147.failed http://download.na
20:30 #navit: < Navit> /svn/navit-svn-7147.failed http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/tomtom/svn/navit-svn-7147.failed
20:30 #navit: < Navit> See compile results history at http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/stats.html
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