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00:51 #navit: < Jkoan> Poor little mobile connection....
00:51 #navit: < Jkoan> BTW good morning
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02:22 #navit: < Jkoan> Another question, who is the maintainer for Ubuntu / debian packages?
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12:59 #navit: < kazer> hi there
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13:38 #navit: < robertp> hi
13:54 #navit: <@KaZeR> hi robertp
13:54 #navit: < Navit> The following compiles failed: http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/android_armv5te/svn/navit-svn-7181.failed http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/openmoko/svn/navit-svn-7181.failed http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/win32/svn/navit-svn-7181.failed http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/n800/svn/navit-svn-7181.failed http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/android_armv4t/svn/navit-svn-7181.failed http://download.na
13:54 #navit: < Navit> /svn/navit-svn-7181.failed http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/tomtom/svn/navit-svn-7181.failed
13:54 #navit: < Navit> See compile results history at http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/stats.html
13:56 #navit: < robertp> hi kazer... are the germans taking over navits irc? O.o
13:59 #navit: <@KaZeR> robertp: seems so indeed. But it's like a return to the source, cp15 and Horwitz who funded this channel are also German :)
14:00 #navit: < robertp> Dann sollten wir einfach den Kanal in deutsch weiterführen. :D
14:03 #navit: < robertp> Just kidding. Kazer, how are you using GPIO on your PI?
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14:20 #navit: <@KaZeR> :)
14:21 #navit: <@KaZeR> regarding GPIO my usage is currently really simple. I have a python script using the common gpio lib for the prototype
14:21 #navit: <@KaZeR> btw have you seen the updates in https://github.com/navit-gps/raspbian-ua-netinst ?
14:22 #navit: <@KaZeR> still not 100% finished but getting closer
14:23 #navit: < robertp> I did an Installer too. No, wait... I started doing that...
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14:24 #navit: < robertp> Mine is not 80% finished.
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14:25 #navit: < robertp> Will navit benefit from a gpio interface?
14:25 #navit: < robertp> I doubt that but want to hear your opinion.
14:25 #navit: < jkoan> hi
14:25 #navit: < robertp> hi
14:26 #navit: < jkoan> @kazer the raspberry pi pictures are now online ;)
14:28 #navit: <@KaZeR> robertp: i think it would. I was actually thinking of using a dedicated branch, at least for some time, for everything related to carputers (or any extension that is not directly navigation related)
14:28 #navit: <@KaZeR> we could call that branch carputer and merge any work like the audio framework or raspberry specific plugins
14:29 #navit: <@KaZeR> hi jkoan
14:29 #navit:  * KaZeR looks at the wiki recent changes
14:29 #navit: <@KaZeR> oh wow you've been busy jkoan nice :)
14:30 #navit: < jkoan> is the source from the audio framework open source?
14:30 #navit: < jkoan> and where?
14:31 #navit: < robertp> I'd suggest github -> navit-gps -> navit -> branch audio_framework
14:31 #navit: < robertp> Yes, it is of course.
14:32 #navit: < jkoan> oh okay thx
14:32 #navit: < robertp> What kind of music do you want to play?
14:32 #navit: < robertp> Online, offline, DAB?
14:32 #navit: < jkoan> currenty i only whant to know where it is ;) but later offline
14:33 #navit: <@KaZeR> jkoan: here's the current code : https://github.com/navit-gps/navit/tree/audio_framework both robertp and myself are using it in our cars
14:33 #navit: < jkoan> thx
14:33 #navit: <@KaZeR> robertp: maybe we should rename that audio_framework branch to 'carputer' to add more features like gpio
14:33 #navit: < robertp> jkoan: see the wiki for some details an pics from within my car.
14:33 #navit: <@KaZeR> or obd-ii or stuffs like that
14:34 #navit: < jkoan> is it only my internet or is the wiki quiet slow (some times)
14:34 #navit: < robertp> mh...
14:34 #navit: < jkoan> @robertp i have seen ;)
14:34 #navit: <@KaZeR> jkoan: the wiki (and the forums) are currently hosted with the map processing service. Which takes a lot of ressources
14:34 #navit: <@KaZeR> so sometimes the wiki gets really slow
14:35 #navit: <@KaZeR> we need to move it elsewhere
14:35 #navit: < robertp> But since we all are very patient, that will be no problem. :D
14:36 #navit: < jkoan> sounds good :D
14:37 #navit: < robertp> kazer, i wouldnt merge all to one branch for carputer...
14:37 #navit: < robertp> since development on the audio framework isnt finished i'd like to have it clean for better debugging
14:38 #navit: < robertp> we can add a branch where we merge all carPIc stuff, but we need the parts separated
14:40 #navit: < jkoan> what is the current release version? :X
14:40 #navit: < jkoan> asking for wiki
14:42 #navit: < jkoan> and the download server seems to be outdated too?
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14:57 #navit: <@KaZeR> robertp: actually this is what i meant when i discussed the dedicated branch the first time. The idea is indeed to make it easy for carputer users to get all features at once
14:57 #navit: < robertp> ah ok.
14:57 #navit: <@KaZeR> (including us :) )
14:58 #navit: < robertp> have you ever been playing around with the android build system or yocto?
14:58 #navit: <@KaZeR> the android build system yes, yocto, not yet
14:59 #navit: < robertp> They have a very nice way to get repos and merge them into a single huge piece of sh..
14:59 #navit: <@KaZeR> hahaha
15:00 #navit: <@KaZeR> well git has the submodule feature, but in our case i think we really need to use branches
15:00 #navit: <@KaZeR> but having a dedicated branch for that would allow us to merge when the tests are passing and be able to continue work on dedicated subsets of features
15:00 #navit: < robertp> But we could use a build script to merge on install?!
15:01 #navit: <@KaZeR> we could, but it's not as convenient as just cloning the specific branch, is it?
15:01 #navit: <@KaZeR> also we would not be able to 'guarantee' that a given branch is not broken when you clone
15:01 #navit: <@KaZeR> jkoan: current release is 0.5.0
15:02 #navit: <@KaZeR> we should probably release a new version soon to keep up the pace
15:02 #navit: < robertp> ok. kazer, i agree.
15:03 #navit: <@KaZeR> cool :)
15:07 #navit: <@KaZeR> i'll set this up then. So feel free to create a branch for anything gpio related for example and we'll have automerge
15:07 #navit: < robertp> Jawohl!
15:08 #navit: <@KaZeR> :D
15:08 #navit: <@KaZeR> time for food here back in a few
15:09 #navit: <@KaZeR> jkoan: i have been wondering for some time if it wouldn't be worth moving some of our organized docs to something like https://readthedocs.org/
15:09 #navit: <@KaZeR> the wiki would then be great for user to user knowledge exchange and we could keep a structured doc there
15:09 #navit: <@KaZeR> everybody's opinion welcome :)
15:13 #navit: < jkoan> i like wikis more than readthedocs... but i will think about
15:14 #navit: < jkoan> afk
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16:15 #navit: < Jkoan> I am back :) :D
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16:36 #navit: <@KaZeR> Jkoan: if i can help with anything please let me know
16:36 #navit: < Jkoan> Not today I think :X
16:39 #navit: < Jkoan> Probably later with all old systems, website and so on. but thanks you that you all are open to new ideas :) and to reboot the project (a little bit at minimum)
16:40 #navit: < Jkoan> @kazer what was the reason to be more active right now?
16:40 #navit: < Jkoan> Or is that only my subjective feeling?
16:42 #navit: <@KaZeR> Jkoan: i think that some activity is less visible sometimes. For example when working on a major new feature like the audio framework or the navigation revamp (codename highfive). This kind of effort takes a lot of time before producing something visible
16:43 #navit: <@KaZeR> there's also a lot of external factors like members free time to contribute, etc
16:43 #navit: <@KaZeR> we're still less active than we used to be, but i hope that we can address that with some 'marketing' to bring new users and contributors in
16:48 #navit: < Jkoan> Okay, thx
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