--- Log opened Sat Jan 21 00:00:18 2017
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11:59 #navit: < KaZeR> hi there
12:01 #navit: < jkoan> hi
12:03 #navit: < KaZeR> i have a really basic map download working on Linux!
12:03 #navit: < jkoan> @kazer what ist the progress about moving the wiki to another server ? :D :P
12:04 #navit: < KaZeR> haha
12:04 #navit: < KaZeR> yeah i need to take care of that
12:05 #navit: < jkoan> when? :D
12:07 #navit: < jkoan> and what do you mean with the basic map download?
12:07 #navit: < KaZeR> i'll try to finish the wiki move next week. In the meantime i have lowered the priority of today's map processing
12:07 #navit: < KaZeR> let's see if it helps
12:08 #navit: < KaZeR> with basic map download i meant that i was able to download a map directly from navit on linux ( currently we had this feature only for android)
12:10 #navit: < jkoan> oh, really nice and helpful if you take a look on the ubuntu reviews of navit
12:12 #navit: < KaZeR> haha, if we take a look a pretty much any review :)
12:12 #navit: < KaZeR> the plan is to finally address the biggest shortcomings, then make a big marketing push to grow our userbase
12:13 #navit: < jkoan> sounds really good
12:14 #navit: < jkoan> what will be the marketing push? ads? does navit have money for that?
12:14 #navit: < KaZeR> and your help on the wiki, etc is right on time to make sure new users can find their way
12:15 #navit: < jkoan> yes, but i need time, because i must write an report until the end of the month :X
12:15 #navit: < KaZeR> marketing push will be more social medias and forums for now. We don't have a budget, but it's something i plan to work on with opencollective maybe. But for that we'll need to reach 100 stars (currently 76)
12:16 #navit: < jkoan> which stars?
12:16 #navit: < jkoan> on github or where?
12:19 #navit: < KaZeR> yes on github indeed :)
12:19 #navit: < jkoan> wait
12:21 #navit: < jkoan> mine is there, another one will probably follow
12:23 #navit: < KaZeR> great! only 22 to go! we had about 10 in the last 10 days or so, so with a little nudge we can get to 100 soon
12:23 #navit: < jkoan> and what happens then?? i dont know that the star number is relevant
12:24 #navit: < KaZeR> current possible plan to get a budget is to build a community on opencollective : https://opencollective.com
12:25 #navit: < KaZeR> it provides a way for user to donate a small amount of money on an ad-hoc or regular basis somewhat like patreon
12:25 #navit: < KaZeR> but it requires your repository to have 100+ stars and at least 3 contributors
12:27 #navit: < jkoan> oh okay, verry interesting because i am working with another person on another open source project: https://github.com/CoopBoard/coopboard
12:27 #navit: < jkoan> if you want to try the demo, im am at http://demo.coopboard.net/?19ef1b3c3784866f
12:28 #navit: < KaZeR> your website is so much better than navit's :)
12:28 #navit: < KaZeR> oh that's too much German :)
12:28 #navit: < jkoan> yes the demo...
12:29 #navit: < jkoan> the website is an standard theme
12:29 #navit: < KaZeR> it looks goo
12:29 #navit: < jkoan> both, website and coopboard are build with node.js
12:31 #navit: < jkoan> probably this is also an good idea to use it with ideas and todos :X
12:31 #navit: < jkoan> only an idea
12:32 #navit: < KaZeR> haha. well the german-only ui is a showstopper for me, i can pick up a few things but that's it :)
12:35 #navit: < jkoan> yes.. i must work on this :X but i have never enough time..
12:52 #navit: < KaZeR> time is of the essence indeed!
13:07 #navit: < jkoan> kazer: btw navit has only 75 stars ;(
13:08 #navit: < KaZeR> 25 to go :)
13:09 #navit: < KaZeR> what! someone unstarred us!
13:10 #navit: < KaZeR> :)
13:17 #navit: < jkoan> i think i must write about navit in my blog after i finished the Howto ;)
13:50 #navit: < jkoan> kazer? how i delete something? only clear all content and save?
13:55 #navit: < KaZeR> you want to delete a page or just some content of a page?
13:55 #navit: < jkoan> a page
14:11 #navit: < jkoan> hey kazer? :D any idea?
14:52 #navit: < KaZeR> sorry got sidetracked :)
14:53 #navit: < KaZeR> when logged you should have a delete option at the top of the page, near the history button
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14:56 #navit: < gernot_> Hi
15:00 #navit: < KaZeR> hi gernot_
15:01 #navit: < KaZeR> do you have wifi on your tomtom gernot_ ?
15:03 #navit: < gernot_> No, only BT
15:03 #navit: < gernot_> KaZeR: I stared navit and sent a pull request
15:04 #navit: < KaZeR> yep i was reading it right now, thanks!
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15:04 #navit: < KaZeR> hi zintor
15:04 #navit: < zintor> hi @all
15:04 #navit: < zintor> hi KaZeR
15:04 #navit: < gernot_> hi
15:04 #navit: < zintor> hi gernot_
15:04 #navit: < KaZeR> gernot_: just to be picky there's a useless empty line at the end of your PR : https://github.com/navit-gps/navit/pull/200/files would you mind amending it ?
15:05 #navit: < zintor> sry, that I leave yesterday so fast
15:05 #navit: < KaZeR> zintor: no worries :)
15:05 #navit: < KaZeR> i have the premises of a map download working directly from navit. This might be useful for you zintor
15:05 #navit: < gernot_> KaZeR: kow do i this? change file and generate a new PR?
15:05 #navit: < KaZeR> it currently relies on libcurl which is quite portable. I'll need help testing it soon
15:06 #navit: < KaZeR> gernot_: you should just need to commit against the same branch
15:06 #navit: < zintor> sure, I will help testing
15:06 #navit: < KaZeR> awesome. i need to do some cleanup and i'll push the test soon. We'll need help reviewing the border lines too, maybe add a few missing ones
15:08 #navit: < zintor> "...reviewing border lines"? from the maps?
15:08 #navit: < KaZeR> when we'll be happy with it this will be worth releasing a 0.6.0 :)
15:08 #navit: < KaZeR> zintor: yes
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15:09 #navit: < KaZeR> zintor: regarding border lines, here's what we have currently for Android : https://github.com/navit-gps/navit/blob/trunk/navit/android/src/org/navitproject/navit/NavitMapDownloader.java
15:09 #navit: < KaZeR> this poses an annoying problem : we need to make a release if we want to update this list.
15:09 #navit: < KaZeR> also this list is only useful for android as of now
15:10 #navit: < KaZeR> so we will have to move it somewhere else, i was thinking a json directly hosted on github
15:10 #navit: < zintor> osm_map_values is the part, or?
15:11 #navit: < gernot_> KaZeR: it worked
15:11 #navit: < KaZeR> zintor: yes. the last value (0, 1 or 2) is the index. Europe is 0, Germany is 1 (under Europe)
15:11 #navit: < KaZeR> gernot_: cool let me review
15:13 #navit: < zintor> I understand
15:13 #navit: < KaZeR> gernot_: perfect! thanks for the PR
15:15 #navit: < zintor> KaZeR: any other debug info, which I could provide for my OSD problem with toggle_announcer?
15:16 #navit: < KaZeR> mmm
15:19 #navit: < KaZeR> i'll have to review the code a bit more i think
15:20 #navit: < zintor> :( damn...not easy
15:20 #navit: < zintor> I couldn't have a wrong setting, value or line?
15:24 #navit: < KaZeR> well it does not work with the default icon, right?
15:24 #navit: < KaZeR> it might be an issue with the event propagation from the graphic driver
15:24 #navit: < KaZeR> oh, can i see your full osd setting? maybe something is overlapping
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15:25 #navit: < circleci-bot> Failed: pgrandin's build (#1574; push) in navit-gps/navit (tomtom_ci) -- https://circleci.com/gh/navit-gps/navit/1574?utm_campaign=chatroom-integration&amp;utm_medium=referral&amp;utm_source=irc
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15:26 #navit: < zintor> I also disabled all OSDs and only showed default one
15:26 #navit: < zintor> anyway, my OSD:
15:26 #navit: < zintor> https://github.com/zintor/navit-jolla-layout/blob/master/jolla_layout/jolla_osd.xml
15:27 #navit: < gernot_> oh. CI build use http://www.tomtom.com/gpl/toolchain_redhat_gcc-3.3.4_glibc-2.3.2-20060131a.tar.gz:
15:28 #navit: < KaZeR> thanks zintor will have a look in a few
15:28 #navit: < gernot_> ERROR 403: Forbidden.
15:28 #navit: < KaZeR> gernot_: ah yeah we need to switch it to https://github.com/navit-gps/dependencies/raw/master/tomtom/toolchain_redhat_gcc-3.3.4_glibc-2.3.2-20060131a.tar.gz
15:29 #navit: < gernot_> Don't know why TT block this
15:32 #navit: < zintor> as you can see, OSD with "update_period" is also not working. If I have this on, I am not able to zoom or drag drop on the map.
15:32 #navit: < zintor> jandegr maybe could test toggle_announcer on his qt5 on linux
15:45 #navit: < jkoan> kazer now i was afk :D only  			 				
15:45 #navit: < jkoan> Page 				Discussion 				Edit 				History 				Move 				Watch 			 	
15:53 #navit: < zintor> Are the map borders of a country in a rectangle? Could it be implemented to use polygons for the borders?
15:56 #navit: < gernot_> zintor: The precalculated map is tiled. You can use maptool to convert  a polygon selection like geofabric delivers.
15:59 #navit: < zintor> I asked because of the lat/lon in that:  https://github.com/navit-gps/navit/blob/trunk/navit/android/src/org/navitproject/navit/NavitMapDownloader.java
16:00 #navit: < zintor> brb
16:03 #navit: < gernot_> I think the mapserver serve rectangles for now.
16:08 #navit: < zintor> re
16:08 #navit: < zintor> aha...it comes from this end
16:11 #navit: < gernot_> by for today
16:11 #navit: < zintor> cu gernot_
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16:11 #navit: < zintor> I am also popping of
16:11 #navit: < zintor> gn8 all
16:11 #navit: < jkoan> by :)
16:12 #navit: < zintor> by jkoan
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16:12 #navit: < jkoan> kazer are you even online?
16:16 #navit: < KaZeR> jkoan: yep
16:17 #navit: < jkoan> see 21:45:00
16:17 #navit: < KaZeR> mmm maybe i need to add you to a group let me see
16:18 #navit: < jkoan> thx
16:18 #navit: < KaZeR> for zintor's question, it's much easier to process rectangles and the space and bandwidth saved to export polygons is not really worth the computational effort
16:19 #navit: < jkoan> yes i thought that also, but i was afk :X
16:37 #navit: < KaZeR> wiki is acting up and i have to go afk. i
16:38 #navit: < KaZeR> i'll double check your permissions in a few
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17:13 #navit: < KaZeR> jkoan: yep you need to be an admin to delete pages. moving you to that group
17:16 #navit: < KaZeR> jkoan: congrats you're an admin now
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18:05 #navit: < jkoan> thy :) and good night for now
18:05 #navit: < jkoan> *thx
18:09 #navit: < KaZeR> np!
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