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02:32 #navit: < Jul-road> Hello all, is there one can speak french with me to explain Navit configuration?
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04:03 #navit: < Jul-road> re
04:34 #navit: < Jul-road> I have convert a map .osm to .bin. But the map do not appear on the GPS Takara
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04:40 -!- Topic for #navit: The open source vector based navigation program with routing engine. See http://wiki.navit-project.org. Please be patient if you don't get a response immediately. Please use http://navit.pastebin.com for your pastes! Channel is logged : http://irclogs.navit.ie/ Follow @NavitProject on Twitter.
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05:33 #navit: < jkoan_> Jul-road probably kazer could help you. If you want to speak english i could also try to help you
05:35 #navit: < jkoan_> about your problem, did you changed the config? So that navit try to read the bin?
05:39 #navit: < Jul-road> thanks for answer, for the .xml file i've modify the code, it's ok. Now i've found a site to DL a map for Navit directly in .bin, i'll back in few minutes with the result of my new manipalution
06:04 #navit: < jkoan_> okay
06:07 #navit: < jkoan_> you must change the mapset configs in navit.xml probably arround line 410
06:08 #navit: < jkoan_> you need to deactivete all mapsets without the one you want to use (probably openstreetmap --> bin files)
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06:22 #navit: < Jul-road> I ve just a yellow background with the .bin map i ve install
06:23 #navit: < Jul-road> i'm on an old GPS Takara GP26, that is strange, it's because with the origine map inside, the display show this Deutsh roads
06:24 #navit: < Jul-road> the map i ve installed come from this site: http://maps9.navit-project.org/
06:30 #navit: < jkoan_> do you have edit the navit.xml?
06:30 #navit: < jkoan_> and set the right path?
06:34 #navit: < Jul-road> off course
06:34 #navit: < Jul-road> i think i do that correctly
06:34 #navit: < Jul-road> but i'm not shure the GPS receive by the satellites
06:39 #navit: < Jul-road> It could not be that simple. I will look for a little more ^^
06:43 #navit: < Jul-road> When I reactivate the base map, the location is displayed with the routes, I do not know if my GPS can still receive coordinates by satellites ... which would make the map of my location does not appear
06:49 #navit: < Jul-road> It's definitely safe, when I enter coordinates manually from a place that should be on my added map, the gps will only show yellow.
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07:35 #navit: < pmckinley> Hi jkoan / kazer and news on Shapefiles? I checked the logs
07:36 #navit: < pmckinley> sorry my Ubuntu kept freezing requiring a reboot so I've reverted to Lubuntu, which will keep me online
07:40 #navit: < pmckinley> I've messaged Horwitz again
07:55 #navit: < jkoan_> pmckinley: for now not
07:56 #navit: < pmckinley> where are you based by the way?
08:09 #navit: < jkoan_> germany
08:20 #navit: < pmckinley> jkoan: do you happen to know what country Horwitz is in?
08:20 #navit: < pmckinley> im interested to know the time difference
08:23 #navit: < jkoan_> no i dont but mainly this i not relevant beacase you could see everything in the irc logs so if he send you an answer here yes could see it
08:30 #navit: < Jul-road> for me it's ok, I succeeded map display of local city. thanks
08:34 #navit: < pmckinley> Hi Jul-road, do you mean you got a Shapefile to work?
08:40 #navit: < Jul-road> Yes it works. I think my first map was too big. With a smaller map portion, the city is displayed
08:41 #navit: < pmckinley> can you paste the line from navit.xml where you specified your map
08:44 #navit: < Jul-road> https://thepasteb.in/p/oYhlj0rGypncZ
08:45 #navit: < Jul-road> line 407 to 410
08:45 #navit: < Jul-road> added*
08:45 #navit: < pmckinley> you're using normal binfiles, not Shapefiles
08:45 #navit: < pmckinley> I dont have a problem with binfiles
08:46 #navit: < pmckinley> but thank you for your input
08:47 #navit: < Jul-road> i don t know what is the differences between this two format files
08:48 #navit: < Jul-road> is it better with shapefiles? where I can download this file type?
08:48 #navit: < pmckinley> Nooooo stay with binfiles
08:48 #navit: < Jul-road> lol ok np
08:48 #navit: < Jul-road> :)
08:49 #navit: < Jul-road> now, I wan t to test my GPS position without manual coordinates entry
08:50 #navit: < pmckinley> Navit works well with binfiles, either created using Maptool or downloaded from Navit's Planet Extractor website. However I receive Shapefiles from another maker. You dont need to change anything
08:52 #navit: < Jul-road> That's exactly what I did, I do not change anything! XD
08:53 #navit: < Jul-road> using Navit's Planet Extractor website*
08:53 #navit: < pmckinley> Jul-road : Click on the map > Actions, it will show your coordinates
08:57 #navit: < Jul-road> hum thanks
09:03 #navit: < jkoan_> Jul-road you forgot enabled="yes" in map tag
09:03 #navit: < jkoan_> i dont know if it is relevant but this is wahr the example config shows
09:04 #navit: < jkoan_> https://thepasteb.in/p/Mjh0cWZEkJ8qot9
09:14 #navit: < Jul-road> It's changed. Where I am displaying is not yet perfect, but I will take the car later to try
09:18 #navit: < jkoan_> so now it worked gererally?
09:20 #navit: < Jul-road> not perfect, i'm not near roads
09:28 #navit: < jkoan_> in real or in navit?
09:29 #navit: < jkoan_> so the gps is wrong or the map?
09:30 #navit: < Jul-road> no, i'm not near roads in real
09:30 #navit: < Jul-road> in few minutes i take my car to test on road
09:31 #navit: < Jul-road> but for this time, i'm not shure the GPS receive the satellites...
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10:29 #navit: < Jul-road> On which site to download the .bin maps?
10:32 #navit: < pmckinley> ;\
10:32 #navit: < pmckinley> :\
10:33 #navit: < pmckinley> Planet Extractor, obviously
10:34 #navit: < Jul-road> this one? http://maps9.navit-project.org/
10:34 #navit: < jkoan_> yes
10:34 #navit: < Jul-road> Navit don't run correctly after my car tour test
10:34 #navit: < pmckinley> yes
10:34 #navit: < jkoan_> http://maps.navit-project.org/ gives you the last version (i think)
10:34 #navit: < Jul-road> ok tks
10:35 #navit: < jkoan_> whats the problem?
10:35 #navit: < Jul-road> no coordinates detected on my old GPS
10:36 #navit: < Jul-road> and big crash, I try to relaunch the prog....
10:36 #navit: < jkoan_> is this the first time running navit on the device?
10:36 #navit: < Jul-road> yes
10:37 #navit: < jkoan_> does you changed the gps settings? and also is the gps module supported?
10:38 #navit: < Jul-road> I lauch the GPS in Win CE mode, is it a problem?
10:38 #navit: < jkoan_> i dont know mouch abou win CE
10:38 #navit: < jkoan_> *about
10:39 #navit: < jkoan_> but do you configured the navit to read from the gps device?
10:40 #navit: < jkoan_> probably this is helpfull: http://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/WinCE#GPS_Receiver
10:41 #navit: < jkoan_> but i cont sa which com port you must use
10:41 #navit: < jkoan_> *cant
10:44 #navit: < Jul-road> ok, for this time I search the lines to write the "vehicule source" and after I search on @ to know what is the com port on my GPS model
10:44 #navit: < jkoan_> around line 180 i think
10:45 #navit: < Jul-road> exactly thanks
10:46 #navit: < jkoan_> no problem
10:47 #navit: < jkoan_> as you probably see navit i not out of the box solution
10:48 #navit: < jkoan_> did you read somethink in the wiki?
10:49 #navit: < Jul-road> i m on the wiki. I know it's not a "simple" solution, it's ok like that for me
10:49 #navit: < Jul-road> I try to install and ru Navit for plaisure
10:49 #navit: < Jul-road> and run*
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10:49 #navit: < Jul-road> now, i go search what is the com port on my GPS model
10:53 #navit: < Jul-road> is it a good way?
10:57 #navit: < jkoan_> what is "it"? :D
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11:02 #navit: < Jul-road> it= know my gps com port
11:03 #navit: < Jul-road> I try to find settings > Connections > GPS on my WinCE
11:04 #navit: < jkoan_> i dont know anything about WinCe so my idea also would be trying :D
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11:37 #navit: < Jul-road> it s too hard for me, I can't find the com port for my GPS model, and for this day, i stop my investigations... but tomorrow, I certenly reback on Navit for correct using
11:48 #navit: < jkoan_> probably kazer could help you i think he has an wince device
11:54 #navit: < Jul-road> ok, cool, I wait for his coming :)
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12:33 #navit: < gernot_> hi
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12:53 #navit: < Jul-road> hi
12:58 #navit: < gernot_> got the right gps settings?
13:00 #navit: < Jul-road> actualy no more. I ve stop my research about that. I wait here for the good configuration ^^
13:01 #navit: < gernot_> Jul-road: on my becker work
13:01 #navit: < gernot_> The port may differ
13:03 #navit: < gernot_> you can quick the port at settings->vehicle->show nmea data. You shold see changing data
13:04 #navit: < gernot_> like $GPRMC,161926.56,V,,,,,,,021216,,,N*73 $GPGSV,1,1,04,30,79,184,28,05,56,288,26,07,61,060,23,28,19,157,*71
13:05 #navit: < kazer> hi there
13:09 #navit: < gernot_> hi
13:12 #navit: < kazer> welcome Jul-road !
13:12 #navit: < Jul-road> ah yeahn you re here, nice to meet you kazer
13:13 #navit: < kazer> :)
13:13 #navit: < Jul-road> sorry gernot i've my "count" for the solution finding
13:14 #navit: < gernot_> count?
13:15 #navit: < Jul-road> @gernot_ where do change the vehicule source? in the .xml file ok, at line 1xx I know, but what more... ?
13:16 #navit: < Jul-road> I'm so tired gernot_
13:16 #navit: < Jul-road> in french "j'ai mon compte" off this installation
13:17 #navit: < kazer> haha i guessed about being French because of that sentence :)
13:17 #navit: < kazer> Jul-road: you should only need to change one vehicle source. Can you share your current 'vehicle' block from the xml?
13:18 #navit: < Jul-road> yes, it's actually the one of the origine files of Navit
13:18 #navit: < Jul-road> https://thepasteb.in/p/0ghJqLmgGWWs5
13:18 #navit: < jkoan_> I you guys need me ping me ;) I'm currently on my way
13:19 #navit: < kazer> thanks jkoan_
13:19 #navit: < kazer> ok Jul-road
13:19 #navit: < Jul-road> your another great community on IRC guys! :)
13:19 #navit: < Jul-road> you're*
13:19 #navit: < Jul-road> ^^
13:19 #navit: < kazer> yep
13:20 #navit: < kazer> :)
13:20 #navit: < jkoan_> Thx :))
13:20 #navit: < kazer> so: is useful when using gpsd. I did not read the full backlog yet, but if you're on wince you probably don't want that
13:20 #navit: < kazer> so you can change enabled to "no"
13:21 #navit: < kazer> is probably the one you want
13:21 #navit: < kazer> you will have to remove the at the end, because currenlty it's commented out
13:21 #navit: < kazer> that's our fault, we could generate this config correclty using xslt when building for wince
13:21 #navit: < jkoan_> I am relatively new at the community so I can't say if the irrelevant was so active in the last month, but right now I can agree with you Jul-road :)
13:22 #navit: < Jul-road> ok I change that immediatly & I test Ok... for cool
13:22 #navit: < kazer> we can and should improve that when building, it's a good reminder :)
13:23 #navit: < gernot_> http://pastebin.com/r3B3dmrW
13:24 #navit: < jkoan_> @kazer we also need to improve that the maptool not being build for tomtom and probably wince
13:24 #navit: < gernot_> kazer: serial dont work on my wince becker
13:26 #navit: < kazer> jkoan_: why would tomtom and wince need maptool? you only need it to parse your own maps
13:26 #navit: < kazer> gernot_: ah? thanks!
13:27 #navit: < kazer> Jul-road: gernot_ knows definitely more than i do about wince, so his config sample is probably the right one :)
13:27 #navit: < jkoan_> As I said "not being build" currency we try to build it for those
13:27 #navit: < gernot_> wince:com2: work without a baudrate setting on it
13:27 #navit: < kazer> jkoan_: mmm. do you have a log? we should just disable it
13:28 #navit: < jkoan_> Not now, only online via Handy and waiting for my train
13:28 #navit: < kazer> ok
13:28 #navit: < gernot_> Jul-road: check also com1 to com8 if you get no activity at nmea data
13:29 #navit: < kazer> we could probably add a port enumerator and get rid of that crappy manual config
13:29 #navit: < jkoan_> Would be nice
13:30 #navit: < gernot_> There are port checkers for ce...
13:31 #navit: < jkoan_> For Linux we could scan /dev if gpsd has no connection
13:31 #navit: < kazer> who wants to give it a shot? :)
13:31 #navit: < gernot_> in linux its easy tu get the right device. Just enter dmesg
13:32 #navit: < gernot_> i dont have my becker here. so it takes some time
13:33 #navit: < gernot_> tu=to
13:34 #navit: < jkoan_> Right now I'm not very familiar with C/c++ :( but it should be really easy to learn ;)
13:35 #navit: < jkoan_> Kazer how moch you also know about Svn? (yes, svn)
13:36 #navit: < kazer> jkoan_: well working on a small task or project is the best way to get better ;)
13:36 #navit: < kazer> haven't used svn in some time, but used to use it a lot
13:36 #navit: < kazer> oh, just discovered https://katacoda.com/teach/git-hosted-scenarios that's really cool
13:38 #navit: < jkoan_> Today I worked around an hour with Svn. I have an special scenario and can only use Svn for some reasons. I will write you a private message later
13:39 #navit: < kazer> ok sure
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13:43 #navit: < pmckinley> Hi kazer do you know how I can get in touch with Michael or Martin?
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13:45 #navit: < kazer> pmckinley: martin has gone completly awol. Horwitz sometimes responds to pm, but he's not often online
13:45 #navit: < pmckinley> Thank you!!
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13:46 #navit: <@kazer> np. Maybe i can help you?
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13:48 #navit: <@kazer> is it for your shapefile issue?
13:48 #navit: < Jul-road> I'm on all this since too early, I see to try again tomorrow. Currently, it does not work, thanks for your help. Beautiful evening :)
13:48 #navit: < pmckinley> I sent you a Gmail on 31st of October last year
13:48 #navit: < pmckinley> Which explains
13:48 #navit: <@kazer> bye Jul-road
13:48 #navit: < Jul-road> :)
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13:49 #navit: <@kazer> pmckinley: mmm i don't use gmail.. where did you get the address from?
13:50 #navit: < pmckinley> sorry I meant from my gmail account to navit@
13:51 #navit: < pmckinley> I just sent another one, can you confirm you got it?
13:57 #navit: < pmckinley> I originally sent an email on 19/10/16 and you very kindly replied on the 31/10/16, but I've heard nothing since
14:00 #navit: <@kazer> oh! sorry yeah i suck at email processing :)
14:02 #navit: < pmckinley> lol no worries
14:02 #navit: <@kazer> ok got the email. sorry for the lack of replies.. i still have 2020 emails to read :/
14:02 #navit: < pmckinley> I need to talk to you, can you email me contact details? If thats ok
14:03 #navit: < pmckinley> now-ish
14:03 #navit: < pmckinley> ;)
14:03 #navit: <@kazer> irc might be the best if it works for you. I really try to avoid more emails
14:03 #navit: <@kazer> we can move that to private messages if you want
14:04 #navit: < pmckinley> yes how do you do that? Just query you?
14:04 #navit: < pmckinley> sorry im not familar with IRC
14:04 #navit: <@kazer> yep, a query is fine
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14:13 #navit: < pmckinley> hi
14:13 #navit: <@kazer> welcome back :)
14:23 #navit: < pmckinley> can anyone confirm they are receiving this?
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14:37 #navit: < gernot_> receiving this?
14:37 #navit: < pmckinley> yes
14:37 #navit: < pmckinley> good luck
14:38 #navit: < pmckinley> parts are even missing from the log
14:39 #navit: < gernot_> My postings are in the log
14:41 #navit: < pmckinley> I wonder how often it updates
14:42 #navit: < pmckinley> Its at least 15 mins ago
14:47 #navit: <@kazer> pmckinley: you might want to try a real irc client like xchat instead of the web-based one
14:48 #navit: < pmckinley> I tried Mibbit but that wouldnt work at all :)
14:49 #navit: <@kazer> i've also used limeirc
14:49 #navit: <@kazer> limechat rather
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15:10 #navit: < pmckinley> Hi @Horwitz!
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15:17 #navit: < pmckinley> Hi Number6
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16:03 #navit: < jkoan_> I use pidgin on Ubuntu and Atomic under Android with an znc as an self hosted irc bouncer (multiple logins, see every message and so on) if someone interested ;)
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17:05 #navit: < pmckinley> Hi kazer: at least there is already an open ticket for the Shapefile problem :)
17:06 #navit: < pmckinley> http://trac.navit-project.org/ticket/1185
17:06 #navit: < pmckinley> Is there going to BE a version 0.5.1?
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19:19 #navit: < Navit> The following compiles failed: http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/android_armv5te/svn/navit-svn-7181.failed http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/openmoko/svn/navit-svn-7181.failed http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/win32/svn/navit-svn-7181.failed http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/n800/svn/navit-svn-7181.failed http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/android_armv4t/svn/navit-svn-7181.failed http://download.na
19:19 #navit: < Navit> /svn/navit-svn-7181.failed http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/tomtom/svn/navit-svn-7181.failed
19:19 #navit: < Navit> See compile results history at http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/stats.html
19:20 #navit: < pmckinley> :)
19:20 #navit: < pmckinley> oh yes, much better
19:50 #navit: < kazer> jkoan_: +1 for bouncers!
19:51 #navit: < kazer> pmckinley: yeah for sure there will be a 0.5.1. probably soon!
19:56 #navit: < pmckinley> Hi kazer: did you get my Terminal result earlier?
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20:30 #navit: < kazer> pmckinley: oh just saw it. You need to install gdb
20:30 #navit: < kazer> (the gnu debugger)
20:37 #navit: < pmckinley> doing it now
20:41 #navit: < pmckinley> http://pastebin.com/7Usfw2Gd
20:51 #navit: < pmckinley> sudo gives a bit more info
20:51 #navit: < pmckinley> http://pastebin.com/MQSRFKNb
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