--- Log opened Mon Feb 13 00:00:53 2017 01:07 -!- xenos1984 [~xenos1984@2001:bb8:2002:200:6651:6ff:fe53:a120] has joined #navit 03:12 -!- jjelen [jjelen@nat/redhat/x-vxzkvyqtrquiapvj] has joined #navit 05:10 -!- noradtux [~noradtux@2a02:2028:870:e700::1] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 05:14 -!- noradtux [~noradtux@2a02:2028:716:e000::1] has joined #navit 07:00 -!- pmckinley [~peter@88-110-207-172.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #navit 07:02 #navit: < pmckinley> avon calling 07:08 -!- ChatSharp [~ChatSharp@stc.66.70.188.95.dsl.krasnet.ru] has joined #navit 07:11 -!- ChatSharp [~ChatSharp@stc.66.70.188.95.dsl.krasnet.ru] has left #navit [] 07:22 #navit: < pmckinley> ChatSharp , he never calls, he never writes :'( 08:02 -!- pmckinley [~peter@88-110-207-172.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:03 -!- pmckinley [~peter@88-110-207-172.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #navit 08:30 -!- Brinky_ [brinky@faui2k3.org] has joined #navit 08:32 -!- Brinky [brinky@faui2k3.org] has quit [Write error: Broken pipe] 08:32 -!- Brinky_ is now known as Brinky 08:32 -!- jkoan_ [nbqtHzlazw@2a00:d0c0:200:0:b9:1a:9c0d:3a0] has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in] 08:32 -!- jkoan [uxaeOe57XM@2a00:d0c0:200:0:b9:1a:9c0d:3a0] has joined #navit 11:10 -!- xenos1984 [~xenos1984@2001:bb8:2002:200:6651:6ff:fe53:a120] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 12:03 -!- xenos1984 [~xenos1984@22-164-191-90.dyn.estpak.ee] has joined #navit 12:58 -!- jjelen [jjelen@nat/redhat/x-vxzkvyqtrquiapvj] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:01 -!- jandegr [5bb4b400@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.180.180.0] has joined #navit 13:05 -!- iTommix_ [~thomas@p57BC5515.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #navit 13:07 -!- iTommix_ [~thomas@p57BC5515.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:13 -!- iTommix_ [57bc5515@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.188.85.21] has joined #navit 13:21 #navit: < kazer> hi there 13:22 #navit: < jkoan> hi kazer :) 13:23 #navit: < iTommix_> got a problem let navit speak in my native. tried everything i found in the www but no success. it seems some words comes in german others dont... anyone able to guide me? 13:23 #navit: < jkoan> wie sieht denn dein speach tag aus? 13:24 #navit: < kazer> Basilic: yes you can use pre-recorded wav files for navigation 13:24 #navit: < iTommix_> Hi jkoan ... der sieht so aus: 13:25 #navit: < jkoan> dann ist es tatsächlich eher ein espeak problem, wir setzen nämlich einfach nur den befehl ab der unter data eingetragen is 13:25 #navit: < jkoan> *ist 13:25 #navit: < iTommix_> navit still say "turn right soon" but should say "demnächst rechts abbiegen" 13:25 #navit: < jkoan> aso 13:26 #navit: < jkoan> ähm.... ist navit selbst auf deutsch? 13:26 #navit: < jkoan> wie sieht denn dein setup aus? 13:26 #navit: < kazer> iTommix_: usually your problem is caused by incomplete translations, but de_DE should be fully translated : https://translations.launchpad.net/navit/trunk/+pots/navit/de/+translate 13:26 #navit: < kazer> iTommix_: you are using de_DE as locale, right? 13:26 #navit: < iTommix_> wenn ich unter tools schaue steht da de_DE.utf8 13:27 #navit: < iTommix_> kazer: yes... as described before... its de_DE.utf8 13:27 #navit: < kazer> ok. the utf8 does not impact the translation 13:27 #navit: < kazer> do you have an example of an incorrect sentence? (to see what's translated and what isn't) 13:27 #navit: < iTommix_> it comes from the system... its a raspberry 13:29 #navit: < jkoan> i also have an reaspberry pi setup, and at may last test (kazer you will remember) everything was german 13:29 #navit: < iTommix_> for example: "500 meter" will be spoken in german "fünfhundert meter"... but "turn left" is defentely english 13:29 #navit: < jkoan> hm :/ 13:29 #navit: < kazer> this is really weird 13:29 #navit: < jkoan> yes 13:30 #navit: < jkoan> probably an out of date version of navit? 13:30 #navit: < iTommix_> yes... it is... how can i check whether navit got the right dict ? 13:30 #navit: < iTommix_> i compiled from git by myself 13:30 #navit: < iTommix_> its not outdated i guess 13:30 #navit: < jkoan> yes 13:31 #navit: < iTommix_> do i have to give a switch to cmake for a language? 13:32 #navit: < jkoan> i dont used one and have right german everywere 13:32 #navit: < iTommix_> can we compare some settings? shall i pastebin some? 13:33 #navit: < iTommix_> jkoan: what gives locale on your system? .utf8 too? 13:34 #navit: < kazer> language is set via the LANG locale setting. we should not have partial translations (unless the translation is really incomplete, but german isn't : https://translations.launchpad.net/navit/trunk/+pots/navit/de/+translate ) 13:34 #navit: < iTommix_> i even modify this: 13:34 #navit: < kazer> iTommix_: i don't think that it's related to the utf-8 part, but it's easy to check. From a terminal, export LANG="de_DE" and then run navit from the same terminal 13:35 #navit: < kazer> (it won't affect your system settings, only the current shell) 13:35 #navit: < iTommix_> kazer: will try 13:36 #navit: < iTommix_> lol can i force navit to speak? 13:36 #navit: < jkoan> yes i also use utf8 and start without parmeters 13:38 #navit: < jkoan> i havent seen anything about forcing navit to say something :D 13:38 #navit: < iTommix_> how can i check it then... lol 13:38 #navit: < jkoan> öhm.... demo:// in vihicle 13:39 #navit: < iTommix_> ok... set LANG doesnt have an effect... "turn right soon" :( 13:40 #navit: < jkoan> hast du mit raspi-config alle einstellungen auf deutsch gestellt und die anderen abgewählt? 13:40 #navit: < iTommix_> but the words to espeak comes from navit/its dict, yes? 13:40 #navit: < iTommix_> hab de und en 13:41 #navit: < jkoan> yes, the String is given by navit to espeak 13:41 #navit: < jkoan> versuch mal en raus zu nehmen 13:42 #navit: < iTommix_> jkoan: hab mal gelesen das man das nicht soll... hast du das gemacht? 13:42 #navit: < jkoan> ja, hatte auch noch nie probleme damit, alles was nicht übersetzt ist, bleibt trotzdem englisch 13:43 #navit: < iTommix_> ich versuch es mal 13:43 #navit: < jkoan> okay 13:47 #navit: < Basilic> hello all 13:47 #navit: < jkoan> hello Basilic 13:47 #navit: < Basilic> kazer, I can record word by word or need one wav for one sentence? 13:47 #navit: < Basilic> hello jkoan 13:48 #navit: < iTommix_> jkoan: hat nichts gebracht... :( 13:49 #navit: < jkoan> iTommix: das ist komisch, wie hast du denn dein system aufgebaut? vllt per pn? 13:49 #navit: < Basilic> mais bien sure... 13:50 #navit: < iTommix_> bin im webchat weil mein client unter macOS ständig rumzickt... geht das hier mit PN? 13:50 #navit: < jkoan> Basilic: If Navit dont support Word by Word, you could create a simle wrapper script that cuts the String by spaces 13:50 #navit: < Basilic> yes that my question if it's need or not 13:51 #navit: < jkoan> iTommix kp nutze ich nie, wäre aber query 13:51 -!- iTommix [~iTommix@p57BC5515.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #navit 13:52 -!- iTommix_ [57bc5515@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.188.85.21] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:54 #navit: < kazer> Basilic: both should work 13:55 #navit: < Basilic> need record all word on the dictionnary I suppose 13:55 #navit: < Basilic> need to find a sexy girl voice to record all :D 13:56 #navit: < kazer> Basilic: check out http://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/Configuration_%28old%29#Speech 13:56 #navit: < kazer> looks like it's missing from the newer config page, we'll have to address that 13:57 #navit: < kazer> you can use blocks of words too, which make it sound much better and less robotic 13:57 #navit: < Basilic> human voice sound better than 100% synthétique 13:58 #navit: < kazer> actually this one is really good : http://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/Speech#Use_Google_translate_.28online.29_to_speak_directions 13:59 #navit: < Basilic> yes but need online 13:59 #navit: < jkoan> or download every sample :D 13:59 #navit: < Basilic> okai 13:59 #navit: < Basilic> I will test it 13:59 #navit: < Basilic> in few week 14:00 #navit: < kazer> Basilic: check out my script which does caching too : https://hackaday.io/project/3070-the-cherokee-carputer 14:00 #navit: < kazer> i should move that to the wiki 14:02 #navit: < jkoan> nice kazer why we havent this at navit repo unter addentional scripts or something linke this? 14:05 -!- gernot_ [549682a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.150.130.164] has joined #navit 14:05 #navit: < gernot_> hi 14:06 #navit: < kazer> jkoan: we need to clarify if this does not violate google's TOS 14:06 #navit: < jkoan> hi gernot_ 14:06 #navit: < jkoan> yes okay :D 14:06 #navit: < kazer> jkoan: if it does not, it would even be easy to make a real, native plugin for it 14:07 #navit: < jkoan> yes :D 14:09 #navit: < gernot_> iTommix: If you compiled self check the summary output from cmake. May be gettext is missed on your system 14:10 #navit: < jkoan> but could this cause that some paths are german and others are english? 14:11 #navit: < kazer> gernot_: nice catch 14:11 #navit: < kazer> jkoan: street names would be in German, because they are pulled from the map 14:11 #navit: < kazer> but actually no, the UI should be in English too in that case 14:12 #navit: < gernot_> as i read the posts all messages are english 14:12 #navit: < gernot_> yes so is it 14:12 #navit: < jkoan> yes, this dosent really make sense or navit is not programmed verry well :D 14:12 #navit: < iTommix> gernot_: i could check it 14:14 #navit: < gernot_> check for this line:Enabled USE_NATIVE_LANGUAGE_SUPPORT ( Gettext found ) 14:14 #navit: < gernot_> in cmoke output 14:15 #navit: < gernot_> cmake 14:15 #navit: < gernot_> cont forget -vde in the espeak statement ;-) 14:16 #navit: < gernot_> it took many work to get NLS working on TomTom ;-) 14:17 #navit: < kazer> so, for the next release it would be nice to improve usability. would you guys like to help? *some* coding skills required, but if we document it properly it should be easy and pretty much everybody should be able to help 14:17 #navit: < kazer> i'm thinking of adding more configuration options to reduce fiddling with the xml to its minimum 14:17 #navit: < iTommix> gernot_: do i have to do cmake again? or its in a file 14:18 #navit: < iTommix> after compiling 14:18 #navit: < kazer> iTommix: you can safely re-run cmake, it should be really quick 14:18 -!- egg_ [9438210d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.148.56.33.13] has joined #navit 14:18 #navit: < kazer> hi egg_ 14:18 #navit: < egg_> hi 14:18 #navit: < egg_> hi all 14:18 #navit: < jkoan> hi 14:19 #navit: < gernot_> hi 14:19 #navit: < egg_> I have a problem trying to build Navit 14:19 #navit: < gernot_> I have more low level coding skills..codin 14:20 #navit: < egg_> I'm using buildroot to generate Navit to my embedded platform 14:20 #navit: < egg_> the problem is that cmake don't find the Freetype and Gtk2 14:20 #navit: < egg_> Disabled gtk_drawing_area ( FreeType library not found ) 14:21 #navit: < egg_> Disabled gtk ( GTK libs not found ) 14:21 #navit: < egg_> for that reason Navit don't get executed on my embedded board 14:21 #navit: < gernot_> egg_: install the development packages (...-dev) 14:22 #navit: < egg_> all development package is installed on my box 14:22 #navit: < gernot_> egg: cross compile? 14:22 #navit: < egg_> Kubunto 12.04 i386 14:23 #navit: < egg_> ups...gernot_ the *-dev must be croscompile too? 14:23 #navit: < egg_> I think that builroot do that automatically 14:23 #navit: < gernot_> compile you for a i386 target? 14:23 #navit: < gernot_> ok 14:24 #navit: < egg_> no, for ARM 14:24 #navit: < egg_> cortexa8 14:24 #navit: < egg_> imx51 from freescale 14:24 #navit: < gernot_> Tnstalled gtk and freetype in your toolchain 14:25 #navit: < egg_> uhmmm, let me see, because Digi give the toolchain generated 14:25 #navit: < iTommix> gernot_: Enabled USE_NATIVE_LANGUAGE_SUPPORT ( Gettext found ) should be in which section? speech? 14:26 #navit: < iTommix> gernot_: found it. its enabled 14:26 #navit: < gernot_> iTommix: the laguagne of this message depend your host system settings 14:27 #navit: < iTommix> its there : Enabled USE_NATIVE_LANGUAGE_SUPPORT ( Gettext found ) 14:28 #navit: < gernot_> iTommix: check for this line: Disabled gettext_intl ( native libintl found ) 14:29 #navit: < egg_> gernot_: The my toolchain don't have freetype neither gtk-2.0 14:29 #navit: < egg_> :-( 14:29 #navit: < egg_> I must to generate a new toolchaing with that support 14:30 #navit: < gernot_> egg_: alternate has your toolchain SDL 14:30 #navit: < egg_> no 14:31 -!- zintor [~steffen@HSI-KBW-46-223-225-19.hsi.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has joined #navit 14:31 #navit: < zintor> hi @all 14:31 #navit: < egg_> I looked for that too and I realice that don't have graphical suport 14:31 #navit: < jkoan> hi zintor 14:31 #navit: < egg_> only opengl 14:31 #navit: < egg_> hi zintor 14:32 #navit: < zintor> this damn cable provider cut my internet off for 10 days! 14:32 #navit: < zintor> how is it going? 14:33 #navit: < gernot_> egg_: install it from source 14:33 #navit: < zintor> kazer: did you reach metalstrolch about the qml? 14:33 #navit: < gernot_> egg_: in other words: get the source and crosscompile it 14:34 #navit: < egg_> ok, the problem I saw with that is the huge dependencies that navit had 14:35 #navit: < iTommix> gernot_: Disabled gettext_intl ( native libintl found ) is there 14:35 #navit: < egg_> but I think will be the correct option that I have right now 14:36 #navit: < egg_> I must to get all the dependencies and crosscompile one by one 14:36 #navit: < egg_> ufff 14:36 #navit: < egg_> Lot of work, and buildroot do that automatically, but the toolchaing is the problem right now 14:37 #navit: < gernot_> iTommix: changed you something after make/make install? check your system for /usr/share/locale/de/LC_MESSAGES/navit.mo 14:37 #navit: < gernot_> or ust navit.mo 14:37 #navit: < gernot_> ust=just 14:39 #navit: < zintor> about the mixture of language: I also got this on my virtual device. I restarted it and all was fine again. 14:39 #navit: < gernot_> egg_: which os run on yout target? how much RAM has it? 14:40 #navit: < egg_> My target is an Linux baremetal with 256Mb of ram 14:40 #navit: < egg_> sorry 512Mb 14:40 #navit: < iTommix> gernot_: this file isnt there… but i dont know that there is such file, so i didnt change anything there 14:42 #navit: < gernot_> iTommix: find you the file on your system? With your settings it should be anywhere. 14:42 #navit: < iTommix> gernot_: i will search for it 14:43 #navit: < gernot_> egg_: Think about SDL. we use it on tomtom 14:43 #navit: < iTommix> gernot_: its in my build-directory 14:44 #navit: < gernot_> watch the output of "make install" for this file 14:45 #navit: < iTommix> gernot_: maybe i can copy it over… to this destination? 14:45 #navit: < egg_> gernot_: ok, I will look for that alternative 14:45 #navit: < egg_> thanks 14:47 #navit: < iTommix> gernot_: btw: i didnt do „make install“ 14:48 #navit: < gernot_> iTommix: you can use strace to check that navit search for it. Navit open the file at the first nationan outout (open menu) 14:48 #navit: < gernot_> ok. no install no file... copy it manual. 14:49 #navit: < iTommix> yes… i will do it… 14:49 #navit: < gernot_> iTommix: make install need root 14:49 #navit: < iTommix> gernot_: i know 15:08 #navit: < zintor> well...have to go 15:08 #navit: < zintor> cya all 15:08 #navit: < jkoan> bb 15:09 -!- zintor [~steffen@HSI-KBW-46-223-225-19.hsi.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has left #navit [] 15:09 #navit: < pmckinley> hi roomies 15:09 #navit: < jkoan> hi 15:10 #navit: < pmckinley> is it safe to come in? is zintor still here?........ >:o 15:10 #navit: < iTommix> gernot_: copy that file didnt help… 15:10 #navit: < pmckinley> ;) 15:11 #navit: < jkoan> iTommix: what about only install? so cmake; make; sudo make install ? 15:12 #navit: < iTommix> jkoan: yes… could fix this problem… maybe 15:14 #navit: < gernot_> iTommix: install help. you can also use strace to check where navit search foe navit.mo 15:14 #navit: < gernot_> foe=for 15:14 #navit: < iTommix> gernot_: how do i use strace? 15:15 #navit: < gernot_> strace -f navit 2>&1 | grep navit.mo 15:15 #navit: < gernot_> Then open the navit menue 15:15 #navit: < iTommix> gernot_: actually navit search in /usr/local/share/navit for everything 15:22 #navit: < iTommix> gernot_: lol try to finde the pipe on my MAC-Keyboard. i just got a vnc connection to my raspberry desktop 15:24 #navit: < iTommix> gernot_: ahhh… got it... 15:25 #navit: < gernot_> Copy and pade it from this page :-) |||| 15:25 #navit: < iTommix> haha… doesnt work… buuuut 15:25 #navit: < iTommix> in my /usr/share/locale is only a de folder… navit search for de_DE.utf8 15:26 #navit: < iTommix> oh wait... 15:26 #navit: < iTommix> navit search in /usr/local/share/locale/de_DE.utf8/LC_…. 15:27 #navit: < jkoan> and find it? 15:27 #navit: < iTommix> of course not… should be /usr/share/locale/de/ 15:28 #navit: < iTommix> anyway… i do a ln -s to there 15:28 #navit: < jkoan> but why it is not failing in my case? 15:28 #navit: < iTommix> you did an make install i guess 15:29 #navit: < jkoan> yes i also... 15:29 #navit: < iTommix> but in /usr/local/share/locale/ are locales too… 15:31 #navit: < iTommix> now navit loads it 15:31 #navit: < iTommix> ANNNND… german language ! GREAT 15:31 #navit: < iTommix> thanks gernot_ 15:31 #navit: < gernot_> prima 15:31 #navit: < jkoan> aber kurios ist es trotzdem.... 15:32 #navit: < jkoan> sorry for german :D 15:32 #navit: < iTommix> nö… navit hat die von gernot beschriebene datei nicht gefunden… sorry for german even :D 15:32 #navit: < jkoan> aber warum es dann bei mir komplett out of the box klappt? 15:34 #navit: < gernot_> Bei mir hat es auch geklappt: Raspbian 7. Sometime you need a prefix setting 15:36 #navit: < gernot_> most time you get problems if you install packages after the first run of cmake 15:39 #navit: < iTommix> now, where we talk about niceley ;) i need to modify the internal gui… actually navit expect 3 icons in a row, i need 2. and navit expect the icon have the same height as width. how can i change this? 15:43 #navit: < gernot_> hmmmm.. 15:45 #navit: < iTommix> yes… i want to use own buttons they fits my global project design… 15:45 #navit: < jkoan> i will go, ping me if you need me ;) 15:46 -!- jkoan [uxaeOe57XM@2a00:d0c0:200:0:b9:1a:9c0d:3a0] has left #navit [] 15:46 -!- jkoan [uxaeOe57XM@2a00:d0c0:200:0:b9:1a:9c0d:3a0] has joined #navit 15:49 #navit: < kazer> ah, i missed zintor. Yeah i reached metalstrolch, and he pushed some updates. we also discussed better update workflow for the next time 15:50 #navit: < kazer> wow it's hard to keep up with the backlog today, i like that :) 15:50 #navit: < iTommix> kazer: did you read my PN ? 15:54 #navit: < kazer> just saw it thanks 15:59 #navit: < iTommix> concern the internal gui… nobody got a hint? do i have to modify any source for it? 16:09 #navit: < gernot_> by 16:09 -!- gernot_ [549682a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.150.130.164] has quit [] 16:12 -!- jandegr [5bb4b400@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.180.180.0] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:13 #navit: < iTommix> good bye to all… till next... 16:13 -!- iTommix [~iTommix@p57BC5515.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: iTommix] 16:52 #navit: < kazer> ah damn i missed iTommix's gui question 17:22 #navit: < pmckinley> :-/ 19:19 #navit: < Navit> The following compiles failed: http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/android_armv5te/svn/navit-svn-7181.failed http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/openmoko/svn/navit-svn-7181.failed http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/win32/svn/navit-svn-7181.failed http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/n800/svn/navit-svn-7181.failed http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/android_armv4t/svn/navit-svn-7181.failed http://download.na 19:19 #navit: < Navit> /svn/navit-svn-7181.failed http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/tomtom/svn/navit-svn-7181.failed 19:19 #navit: < Navit> See compile results history at http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/stats.html 19:51 -!- Horwitz [~mich1@p200300800E042D00022268FFFE64E7C4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:04 -!- Horwitz [~mich1@p200300800E02F400022268FFFE64E7C4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #navit 20:04 -!- mode/#navit [+o Horwitz] by ChanServ 20:11 -!- xenos1984 [~xenos1984@22-164-191-90.dyn.estpak.ee] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 21:28 -!- pmckinley [~peter@88-110-207-172.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:29 -!- pmckinley [~peter@88-110-207-172.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #navit 22:21 -!- pmckinley [~peter@88-110-207-172.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] --- Log closed Tue Feb 14 00:00:54 2017