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07:22 #navit: < pmckinley> ChatSharp , he never calls, he never writes :'(
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13:21 #navit: < kazer> hi there
13:22 #navit: < jkoan> hi kazer :)
13:23 #navit: < iTommix_> got a problem let navit speak in my native. tried everything i found in the www but no success. it seems some words comes in german others dont... anyone able to guide me?
13:23 #navit: < jkoan> wie sieht denn dein speach tag aus?
13:24 #navit: < kazer> Basilic: yes you can use pre-recorded wav files for navigation
13:24 #navit: < iTommix_> Hi jkoan ... der sieht so aus:
13:25 #navit: < jkoan> dann ist es tatsächlich eher ein espeak problem, wir setzen nämlich einfach nur den befehl ab der unter data eingetragen is
13:25 #navit: < jkoan> *ist
13:25 #navit: < iTommix_> navit still say "turn right soon" but should say "demnächst rechts abbiegen"
13:25 #navit: < jkoan> aso
13:26 #navit: < jkoan> ähm.... ist navit selbst auf deutsch?
13:26 #navit: < jkoan> wie sieht denn dein setup aus?
13:26 #navit: < kazer> iTommix_: usually your problem is caused by incomplete translations, but de_DE should be fully translated : https://translations.launchpad.net/navit/trunk/+pots/navit/de/+translate
13:26 #navit: < kazer> iTommix_: you are using de_DE as locale, right?
13:26 #navit: < iTommix_> wenn ich unter tools schaue steht da de_DE.utf8
13:27 #navit: < iTommix_> kazer: yes... as described before... its de_DE.utf8
13:27 #navit: < kazer> ok. the utf8 does not impact the translation
13:27 #navit: < kazer> do you have an example of an incorrect sentence? (to see what's translated and what isn't)
13:27 #navit: < iTommix_> it comes from the system... its a raspberry
13:29 #navit: < jkoan> i also have an reaspberry pi setup, and at may last test (kazer you will remember) everything was german
13:29 #navit: < iTommix_> for example: "500 meter" will be spoken in german "fünfhundert meter"... but "turn left" is defentely english
13:29 #navit: < jkoan> hm :/
13:29 #navit: < kazer> this is really weird
13:29 #navit: < jkoan> yes
13:30 #navit: < jkoan> probably an out of date version of navit?
13:30 #navit: < iTommix_> yes... it is... how can i check whether navit got the right dict ?
13:30 #navit: < iTommix_> i compiled from git by myself
13:30 #navit: < iTommix_> its not outdated i guess
13:30 #navit: < jkoan> yes
13:31 #navit: < iTommix_> do i have to give a switch to cmake for a language?
13:32 #navit: < jkoan> i dont used one and have right german everywere
13:32 #navit: < iTommix_> can we compare some settings? shall i pastebin some?
13:33 #navit: < iTommix_> jkoan: what gives locale on your system? .utf8 too?
13:34 #navit: < kazer> language is set via the LANG locale setting. we should not have partial translations (unless the translation is really incomplete, but german isn't : https://translations.launchpad.net/navit/trunk/+pots/navit/de/+translate )
13:34 #navit: < iTommix_> i even modify this:
13:34 #navit: < kazer> iTommix_: i don't think that it's related to the utf-8 part, but it's easy to check. From a terminal, export LANG="de_DE" and then run navit from the same terminal
13:35 #navit: < kazer> (it won't affect your system settings, only the current shell)
13:35 #navit: < iTommix_> kazer: will try
13:36 #navit: < iTommix_> lol can i force navit to speak?
13:36 #navit: < jkoan> yes i also use utf8 and start without parmeters
13:38 #navit: < jkoan> i havent seen anything about forcing navit to say something :D
13:38 #navit: < iTommix_> how can i check it then... lol
13:38 #navit: < jkoan> öhm.... demo:// in vihicle
13:39 #navit: < iTommix_> ok... set LANG doesnt have an effect... "turn right soon" :(
13:40 #navit: < jkoan> hast du mit raspi-config alle einstellungen auf deutsch gestellt und die anderen abgewählt?
13:40 #navit: < iTommix_> but the words to espeak comes from navit/its dict, yes?
13:40 #navit: < iTommix_> hab de und en
13:41 #navit: < jkoan> yes, the String is given by navit to espeak
13:41 #navit: < jkoan> versuch mal en raus zu nehmen
13:42 #navit: < iTommix_> jkoan: hab mal gelesen das man das nicht soll... hast du das gemacht?
13:42 #navit: < jkoan> ja, hatte auch noch nie probleme damit, alles was nicht übersetzt ist, bleibt trotzdem englisch
13:43 #navit: < iTommix_> ich versuch es mal
13:43 #navit: < jkoan> okay
13:47 #navit: < Basilic> hello all
13:47 #navit: < jkoan> hello Basilic
13:47 #navit: < Basilic> kazer, I can record word by word or need one wav for one sentence?
13:47 #navit: < Basilic> hello jkoan
13:48 #navit: < iTommix_> jkoan: hat nichts gebracht... :(
13:49 #navit: < jkoan> iTommix: das ist komisch, wie hast du denn dein system aufgebaut? vllt per pn?
13:49 #navit: < Basilic> mais bien sure...
13:50 #navit: < iTommix_> bin im webchat weil mein client unter macOS ständig rumzickt... geht das hier mit PN?
13:50 #navit: < jkoan> Basilic: If Navit dont support Word by Word, you could create a simle wrapper script that cuts the String by spaces
13:50 #navit: < Basilic> yes that my question if it's need or not
13:51 #navit: < jkoan> iTommix kp nutze ich nie, wäre aber query
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13:54 #navit: < kazer> Basilic: both should work
13:55 #navit: < Basilic> need record all word on the dictionnary I suppose
13:55 #navit: < Basilic> need to find a sexy girl voice to record all :D
13:56 #navit: < kazer> Basilic: check out http://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/Configuration_%28old%29#Speech
13:56 #navit: < kazer> looks like it's missing from the newer config page, we'll have to address that
13:57 #navit: < kazer> you can use blocks of words too, which make it sound much better and less robotic
13:57 #navit: < Basilic> human voice sound better than 100% synthétique
13:58 #navit: < kazer> actually this one is really good : http://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/Speech#Use_Google_translate_.28online.29_to_speak_directions
13:59 #navit: < Basilic> yes but need online
13:59 #navit: < jkoan> or download every sample :D
13:59 #navit: < Basilic> okai
13:59 #navit: < Basilic> I will test it
13:59 #navit: < Basilic> in few week
14:00 #navit: < kazer> Basilic: check out my script which does caching too : https://hackaday.io/project/3070-the-cherokee-carputer
14:00 #navit: < kazer> i should move that to the wiki
14:02 #navit: < jkoan> nice kazer why we havent this at navit repo unter addentional scripts or something linke this?
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14:05 #navit: < gernot_> hi
14:06 #navit: < kazer> jkoan: we need to clarify if this does not violate google's TOS
14:06 #navit: < jkoan> hi gernot_
14:06 #navit: < jkoan> yes okay :D
14:06 #navit: < kazer> jkoan: if it does not, it would even be easy to make a real, native plugin for it
14:07 #navit: < jkoan> yes :D
14:09 #navit: < gernot_> iTommix: If you compiled self check the summary output from cmake. May be gettext is missed on your system
14:10 #navit: < jkoan> but could this cause that some paths are german and others are english?
14:11 #navit: < kazer> gernot_: nice catch
14:11 #navit: < kazer> jkoan: street names would be in German, because they are pulled from the map
14:11 #navit: < kazer> but actually no, the UI should be in English too in that case
14:12 #navit: < gernot_> as i read the posts all messages are english
14:12 #navit: < gernot_> yes so is it
14:12 #navit: < jkoan> yes, this dosent really make sense or navit is not programmed verry well :D
14:12 #navit: < iTommix> gernot_: i could check it
14:14 #navit: < gernot_> check for this line:Enabled USE_NATIVE_LANGUAGE_SUPPORT ( Gettext found )
14:14 #navit: < gernot_> in cmoke output
14:15 #navit: < gernot_> cmake
14:15 #navit: < gernot_> cont forget -vde in the espeak statement ;-)
14:16 #navit: < gernot_> it took many work to get NLS working on TomTom ;-)
14:17 #navit: < kazer> so, for the next release it would be nice to improve usability. would you guys like to help? *some* coding skills required, but if we document it properly it should be easy and pretty much everybody should be able to help
14:17 #navit: < kazer> i'm thinking of adding more configuration options to reduce fiddling with the xml to its minimum
14:17 #navit: < iTommix> gernot_: do i have to do cmake again? or its in a file
14:18 #navit: < iTommix> after compiling
14:18 #navit: < kazer> iTommix: you can safely re-run cmake, it should be really quick
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14:18 #navit: < kazer> hi egg_
14:18 #navit: < egg_> hi
14:18 #navit: < egg_> hi all
14:18 #navit: < jkoan> hi
14:19 #navit: < gernot_> hi
14:19 #navit: < egg_> I have a problem trying to build Navit
14:19 #navit: < gernot_> I have more low level coding skills..codin
14:20 #navit: < egg_> I'm using buildroot to generate Navit to my embedded platform
14:20 #navit: < egg_> the problem is that cmake don't find the Freetype and Gtk2
14:20 #navit: < egg_> Disabled gtk_drawing_area ( FreeType library not found )
14:21 #navit: < egg_> Disabled gtk ( GTK libs not found )
14:21 #navit: < egg_> for that reason Navit don't get executed on my embedded board
14:21 #navit: < gernot_> egg_: install the development packages (...-dev)
14:22 #navit: < egg_> all development package is installed on my box
14:22 #navit: < gernot_> egg: cross compile?
14:22 #navit: < egg_> Kubunto 12.04 i386
14:23 #navit: < egg_> ups...gernot_ the *-dev must be croscompile too?
14:23 #navit: < egg_> I think that builroot do that automatically
14:23 #navit: < gernot_> compile you for a i386 target?
14:23 #navit: < gernot_> ok
14:24 #navit: < egg_> no, for ARM
14:24 #navit: < egg_> cortexa8
14:24 #navit: < egg_> imx51 from freescale
14:24 #navit: < gernot_> Tnstalled gtk and freetype in your toolchain
14:25 #navit: < egg_> uhmmm, let me see, because Digi give the toolchain generated
14:25 #navit: < iTommix> gernot_: Enabled USE_NATIVE_LANGUAGE_SUPPORT ( Gettext found ) should be in which section? speech?
14:26 #navit: < iTommix> gernot_: found it. its enabled
14:26 #navit: < gernot_> iTommix: the laguagne of this message depend your host system settings
14:27 #navit: < iTommix> its there : Enabled USE_NATIVE_LANGUAGE_SUPPORT ( Gettext found )
14:28 #navit: < gernot_> iTommix: check for this line: Disabled gettext_intl ( native libintl found )
14:29 #navit: < egg_> gernot_: The my toolchain don't have freetype neither gtk-2.0
14:29 #navit: < egg_> :-(
14:29 #navit: < egg_> I must to generate a new toolchaing with that support
14:30 #navit: < gernot_> egg_: alternate has your toolchain SDL
14:30 #navit: < egg_> no
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14:31 #navit: < zintor> hi @all
14:31 #navit: < egg_> I looked for that too and I realice that don't have graphical suport
14:31 #navit: < jkoan> hi zintor
14:31 #navit: < egg_> only opengl
14:31 #navit: < egg_> hi zintor
14:32 #navit: < zintor> this damn cable provider cut my internet off for 10 days!
14:32 #navit: < zintor> how is it going?
14:33 #navit: < gernot_> egg_: install it from source
14:33 #navit: < zintor> kazer: did you reach metalstrolch about the qml?
14:33 #navit: < gernot_> egg_: in other words: get the source and crosscompile it
14:34 #navit: < egg_> ok, the problem I saw with that is the huge dependencies that navit had
14:35 #navit: < iTommix> gernot_: Disabled gettext_intl ( native libintl found ) is there
14:35 #navit: < egg_> but I think will be the correct option that I have right now
14:36 #navit: < egg_> I must to get all the dependencies and crosscompile one by one
14:36 #navit: < egg_> ufff
14:36 #navit: < egg_> Lot of work, and buildroot do that automatically, but the toolchaing is the problem right now
14:37 #navit: < gernot_> iTommix: changed you something after make/make install? check your system for /usr/share/locale/de/LC_MESSAGES/navit.mo
14:37 #navit: < gernot_> or ust navit.mo
14:37 #navit: < gernot_> ust=just
14:39 #navit: < zintor> about the mixture of language: I also got this on my virtual device. I restarted it and all was fine again.
14:39 #navit: < gernot_> egg_: which os run on yout target? how much RAM has it?
14:40 #navit: < egg_> My target is an Linux baremetal with 256Mb of ram
14:40 #navit: < egg_> sorry 512Mb
14:40 #navit: < iTommix> gernot_: this file isnt there… but i dont know that there is such file, so i didnt change anything there
14:42 #navit: < gernot_> iTommix: find you the file on your system? With your settings it should be anywhere.
14:42 #navit: < iTommix> gernot_: i will search for it
14:43 #navit: < gernot_> egg_: Think about SDL. we use it on tomtom
14:43 #navit: < iTommix> gernot_: its in my build-directory
14:44 #navit: < gernot_> watch the output of "make install" for this file
14:45 #navit: < iTommix> gernot_: maybe i can copy it over… to this destination?
14:45 #navit: < egg_> gernot_: ok, I will look for that alternative
14:45 #navit: < egg_> thanks
14:47 #navit: < iTommix> gernot_: btw: i didnt do „make install“
14:48 #navit: < gernot_> iTommix: you can use strace to check that navit search for it. Navit open the file at the first nationan outout (open menu)
14:48 #navit: < gernot_> ok. no install no file... copy it manual.
14:49 #navit: < iTommix> yes… i will do it…
14:49 #navit: < gernot_> iTommix: make install need root
14:49 #navit: < iTommix> gernot_: i know
15:08 #navit: < zintor> well...have to go
15:08 #navit: < zintor> cya all
15:08 #navit: < jkoan> bb
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15:09 #navit: < pmckinley> hi roomies
15:09 #navit: < jkoan> hi
15:10 #navit: < pmckinley> is it safe to come in? is zintor still here?........ >:o
15:10 #navit: < iTommix> gernot_: copy that file didnt help…
15:10 #navit: < pmckinley> ;)
15:11 #navit: < jkoan> iTommix: what about only install? so cmake; make; sudo make install ?
15:12 #navit: < iTommix> jkoan: yes… could fix this problem… maybe
15:14 #navit: < gernot_> iTommix: install help. you can also use strace to check where navit search foe navit.mo
15:14 #navit: < gernot_> foe=for
15:14 #navit: < iTommix> gernot_: how do i use strace?
15:15 #navit: < gernot_> strace -f navit 2>&1 | grep navit.mo
15:15 #navit: < gernot_> Then open the navit menue
15:15 #navit: < iTommix> gernot_: actually navit search in /usr/local/share/navit for everything
15:22 #navit: < iTommix> gernot_: lol try to finde the pipe on my MAC-Keyboard. i just got a vnc connection to my raspberry desktop
15:24 #navit: < iTommix> gernot_: ahhh… got it...
15:25 #navit: < gernot_> Copy and pade it from this page :-) ||||
15:25 #navit: < iTommix> haha… doesnt work… buuuut
15:25 #navit: < iTommix> in my /usr/share/locale is only a de folder… navit search for de_DE.utf8
15:26 #navit: < iTommix> oh wait...
15:26 #navit: < iTommix> navit search in /usr/local/share/locale/de_DE.utf8/LC_….
15:27 #navit: < jkoan> and find it?
15:27 #navit: < iTommix> of course not… should be /usr/share/locale/de/
15:28 #navit: < iTommix> anyway… i do a ln -s to there
15:28 #navit: < jkoan> but why it is not failing in my case?
15:28 #navit: < iTommix> you did an make install i guess
15:29 #navit: < jkoan> yes i also...
15:29 #navit: < iTommix> but in /usr/local/share/locale/ are locales too…
15:31 #navit: < iTommix> now navit loads it
15:31 #navit: < iTommix> ANNNND… german language ! GREAT
15:31 #navit: < iTommix> thanks gernot_
15:31 #navit: < gernot_> prima
15:31 #navit: < jkoan> aber kurios ist es trotzdem....
15:32 #navit: < jkoan> sorry for german :D
15:32 #navit: < iTommix> nö… navit hat die von gernot beschriebene datei nicht gefunden… sorry for german even :D
15:32 #navit: < jkoan> aber warum es dann bei mir komplett out of the box klappt?
15:34 #navit: < gernot_> Bei mir hat es auch geklappt: Raspbian 7. Sometime you need a prefix setting
15:36 #navit: < gernot_> most time you get problems if you install packages after the first run of cmake
15:39 #navit: < iTommix> now, where we talk about niceley ;) i need to modify the internal gui… actually navit expect 3 icons in a row, i need 2. and navit expect the icon have the same height as width. how can i change this?
15:43 #navit: < gernot_> hmmmm..
15:45 #navit: < iTommix> yes… i want to use own buttons they fits my global project design…
15:45 #navit: < jkoan> i will go, ping me if you need me ;)
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15:49 #navit: < kazer> ah, i missed zintor. Yeah i reached metalstrolch, and he pushed some updates. we also discussed better update workflow for the next time
15:50 #navit: < kazer> wow it's hard to keep up with the backlog today, i like that :)
15:50 #navit: < iTommix> kazer: did you read my PN ?
15:54 #navit: < kazer> just saw it thanks
15:59 #navit: < iTommix> concern the internal gui… nobody got a hint? do i have to modify any source for it?
16:09 #navit: < gernot_> by
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16:13 #navit: < iTommix> good bye to all… till next...
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16:52 #navit: < kazer> ah damn i missed iTommix's gui question
17:22 #navit: < pmckinley> :-/
19:19 #navit: < Navit> The following compiles failed: http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/android_armv5te/svn/navit-svn-7181.failed http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/openmoko/svn/navit-svn-7181.failed http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/win32/svn/navit-svn-7181.failed http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/n800/svn/navit-svn-7181.failed http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/android_armv4t/svn/navit-svn-7181.failed http://download.na
19:19 #navit: < Navit> /svn/navit-svn-7181.failed http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/tomtom/svn/navit-svn-7181.failed
19:19 #navit: < Navit> See compile results history at http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/stats.html
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