--- Log opened Tue Feb 14 00:00:54 2017 00:38 -!- pmckinley [~peter@88-110-195-80.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #navit 00:59 -!- egg_ [9438210d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.148.56.33.13] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:45 -!- xenos1984 [~xenos1984@2001:bb8:2002:200:6651:6ff:fe53:a120] has joined #navit 02:13 #navit: < jkoan> Kazer you could give me the answer for iTommix's questions. I will tell him :D I also had a similar idea, but when I need 4 instead of his 2 icons in a row. So mainly the question is how to change the menu layout and design. The icons are no problem, about the rest I don't know 02:27 -!- jjelen [jjelen@nat/redhat/x-itaticqsqnnqydli] has joined #navit 02:51 -!- egg_ [5e7ef002@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.126.240.2] has joined #navit 02:51 -!- egg_ [5e7ef002@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.126.240.2] has left #navit [] 03:28 -!- pmckinley [~peter@88-110-195-80.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 03:45 -!- pmckinley [~peter@88-110-195-80.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #navit 05:08 -!- noradtux [~noradtux@2a02:2028:716:e000::1] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 05:13 -!- noradtux [~noradtux@port-34.pppoe.wtnet.de] has joined #navit 07:35 #navit: < pmckinley> Hi jkoan 07:54 #navit: < jkoan> Hi 08:40 -!- pmckinley [~peter@88-110-195-80.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 08:41 -!- pmckinley [~peter@88-110-195-80.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #navit 09:08 #navit: < pmckinley> http://trac.navit-project.org/ticket/1349#ticket 09:36 -!- pmckinley [~peter@88-110-195-80.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:37 -!- pmckinley [~peter@88-110-195-80.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #navit 09:44 -!- kazer [~kazer@2601:643:8104:ba60:eea8:6bff:fef8:449] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 09:51 -!- pmckinley [~peter@88-110-195-80.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:52 -!- pmckinley [~peter@88-110-195-80.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #navit 09:57 -!- kazer [~kazer@2601:643:8104:ba60:eea8:6bff:fef8:449] has joined #navit 10:37 -!- xenos1984 [~xenos1984@2001:bb8:2002:200:6651:6ff:fe53:a120] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 10:59 -!- jjelen [jjelen@nat/redhat/x-itaticqsqnnqydli] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 11:03 -!- jkoan [uxaeOe57XM@2a00:d0c0:200:0:b9:1a:9c0d:3a0] has left #navit [] 11:08 -!- xenos1984 [~xenos1984@22-164-191-90.dyn.estpak.ee] has joined #navit 11:14 -!- jjelen [jjelen@nat/redhat/x-wntrpuhqnoqobulm] has joined #navit 11:36 -!- jkoan [uxaeOe57XM@2a00:d0c0:200:0:b9:1a:9c0d:3a0] has joined #navit 11:58 -!- jkoan [uxaeOe57XM@2a00:d0c0:200:0:b9:1a:9c0d:3a0] has left #navit [] 12:26 -!- jjelen [jjelen@nat/redhat/x-wntrpuhqnoqobulm] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:50 -!- jandegr [5742b2cc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.66.178.204] has joined #navit 13:02 #navit: < kazer> hi there 13:48 #navit: < pmckinley> hey :) 13:55 #navit: < kazer> 'sup Patrick? 13:56 #navit: < Basilic> Hey all 13:56 #navit: < Basilic> I just get a new phone 13:56 #navit: < Basilic> and install navit 13:56 #navit: < Basilic> I have some bug 13:56 #navit: < Basilic> on android 13:56 #navit: < Basilic> the tool menu can't display 13:56 #navit: < Basilic> seen only half of 4 icons 13:57 #navit: < Basilic> in landsape mode it not better 13:57 #navit: < Basilic> I see only one 13:58 #navit: < pmckinley> Patrick? 14:05 #navit: < kazer> Basilic: could you make a video capture or a screenshot? 14:05 #navit: < kazer> damn it, Peter, not Patrick. Sorry! 14:06 #navit: < Basilic> kazer, how I can do a sreen shot on android? 14:06 #navit: < Basilic> oki 14:07 #navit: < Basilic> found :) 14:08 #navit: < kazer> :) 14:08 #navit: < Basilic> need update drive to upload 14:09 #navit: < Basilic> pff... 1hour and already need update :) 14:11 #navit: < Basilic> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7dlRwvtqpkSRmdaVUtUTm5kb1k/view?usp=sharing 14:11 #navit: < Basilic> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7dlRwvtqpkSU2F6eXFKYUxKalk/view?usp=sharing 14:12 #navit: < Basilic> the main menu is ok 14:12 #navit: < Basilic> but in tools menu I see this 14:13 #navit: < kazer> oh boy that's ugly 14:13 #navit: < Basilic> yep 14:13 #navit: < kazer> and it means nothing 14:14 #navit: < kazer> "selectionner le chemin de la carte" wtf... 14:14 #navit: < Basilic> it's in french 14:14 #navit: < kazer> oui mais ca ne veut rien dire :) 14:15 #navit: < kazer> Basilic: when you spot incorrect translations, you can help us by fixing them here : https://translations.launchpad.net/navit/trunk/+pots/navit/fr/+translate 14:15 #navit: < Basilic> i'm not sure that incorrect 14:15 #navit: < Basilic> that select the way on the map 14:15 #navit: < Basilic> okai 14:15 #navit: < Basilic> it's an error 14:15 #navit: < Basilic> it's select the folder with map 14:17 #navit: < Basilic> set map location 14:18 #navit: < Basilic> in french... sélectionner le répertoire des cartes* 14:18 #navit: < Basilic> seems better 14:18 #navit: < kazer> definitely 14:18 #navit: < kazer> which revision is that? 14:18 #navit: < Basilic> kazer, ... you are french no? 14:18 #navit: < kazer> yep 14:19 #navit: < kazer> but i use navit in english 14:19 #navit: < Basilic> 0.5.0 14:19 #navit: < kazer> do you have the exact revision number? in "about" 14:19 #navit: < Basilic> 7c6a857 14:19 #navit: < kazer> thanks 14:19 #navit: < kazer> oh yeah that's super old 14:20 #navit: < kazer> Dec 2015 14:20 #navit: < Basilic> just install from playstore 14:20 #navit: < kazer> yeah, the "production" track is a bit behind 14:20 #navit: < Basilic> maybe need update 14:20 #navit: < kazer> we should have a build from last month in the beta channel 14:20 #navit: < kazer> i can push the beta build to prod, but we'll need feedback 14:20 #navit: * kazer stares at Basilic :) 14:21 #navit: < Basilic> if you want 14:21 #navit: < Basilic> I change my telephone because GPS was out 14:21 #navit: < kazer> cool. I'll push the update, it should be available in a few hours 14:21 #navit: < Basilic> just send me the APK link in MP 14:22 #navit: < Basilic> I need download Europe map!! 14:24 #navit: < Basilic> what différence between commonly fomat and auxilary file? 14:24 #navit: < Basilic> that in auxilary file? 14:24 #navit: < Basilic> 29Gb for map... so crazy 14:25 #navit: < Basilic> start by the 18Gb for map :) 14:26 -!- zoff99 [~chatzilla@unaffiliated/zoff99] has joined #navit 14:26 #navit: < Basilic> I just have bye a 32Gb memory card and think that enough 14:26 #navit: < Basilic> lol 14:26 #navit: * zoff99 , the evil one has arrived 14:26 #navit: < Basilic> hey zoff99 14:27 #navit: < zoff99> hi 14:27 #navit: < jandegr> ha zoff99 , 14:27 #navit: < zoff99> hi jan 14:27 #navit: < zoff99> long time 14:27 #navit: < jandegr> how did that presentation on zanavi go ? 14:27 #navit: < kazer> haha 14:28 #navit: < kazer> hi zoff99 :) 14:28 #navit: < kazer> Basilic: rev 7266 is on its way 14:28 #navit: < zoff99> jan: good. 1 1/2 hours :-) planned was 8 minutes 14:28 #navit: < jandegr> oops 14:28 #navit: < kazer> zoff99: now that's some serious overtime :) 14:28 #navit: < zoff99> yeah, people wanted to know stuff 14:28 #navit: < kazer> do you have slides or a video recording to share? i'd like to see that 14:28 #navit: < zoff99> slides yes 14:28 #navit: < jandegr> you had to pay for the extra time or you got paid more ? 14:29 #navit: < zoff99> i got free beer and snacks 14:29 #navit: < kazer> \o/ 14:29 #navit: < jandegr> zoff99 , you ever tried openglES ? 14:30 #navit: < zoff99> no 14:30 #navit: < zoff99> performance is not the issue 14:30 #navit: < jandegr> oh no ? 14:30 #navit: < zoff99> jan, no 14:31 #navit: < jandegr> well , I will have to keep it for myself then :) 14:31 #navit: < zoff99> jan, u been secretly brewing some shit in your software lab again? 14:32 #navit: < jandegr> just kooking smth in the kitchen 14:32 #navit: < zoff99> jan, you work for the wrong side of the force is the problem :) 14:32 #navit: < jandegr> let me just have offered you ndk/opnglES and you refeused , ,,, 14:33 #navit: < zoff99> i am a refuser :) 14:33 #navit: < pmckinley> :-D 14:34 #navit: < jandegr> just finish the last bits of tessalation and mapview is done , in a seperate drawing thread of openglsurfaceview 14:35 #navit: < zoff99> nice 14:35 #navit: < zoff99> still performance is really not an issue, maybe with navit 14:35 #navit: < jandegr> you know it is never enough for me :) 14:36 #navit: < zoff99> yeah 14:36 #navit: < zoff99> i wonder how fast your boat was/is ? ;) 14:36 #navit: < zoff99> jan: i just steal it for your repo later :) :) 14:36 #navit: < jandegr> top at 6 knots in good wind :) 14:37 #navit: < zoff99> why did u not tweak that? 14:37 #navit: < jandegr> (over the water that is , with a bit of current over ground up to 10 knots :) 14:38 #navit: < zoff99> i never know what knots means, for regular people its like saying "i travel at 17.5 blubblub" :) 14:38 #navit: < zoff99> or 17.4 knorrxxilllage 14:39 #navit: < jandegr> 1 not it 1 nautical mile / hour 14:39 #navit: < jandegr> 1 knot... 14:40 #navit: < zoff99> i live in metric universe :) 14:40 #navit: < zoff99> i dont know that pint per yard with 5 inches imperal dark things 14:41 #navit: < jandegr> IIRC 1 nautical mile is one arcsecond on the equator 14:41 #navit: < kazer> worst part of imperial is the fucking fractions 14:41 #navit: < zoff99> yeah 12 inches to 1 foot :) what where they thinking/drinking 14:42 #navit: < jandegr> or got in their nose :) 14:42 #navit: < kazer> 5/16 of an inch.. That's a real fucking measure 14:42 #navit: < zoff99> hold on, arcseonds eqautor, does it mean 1 knot is not the same everywhere on the world??? 14:42 #navit: < kazer> zoff99: it depends of the speed of the current too :) 14:43 #navit: < zoff99> i stay on land then 14:43 #navit: < jandegr> it is the same everywhere, 1 arcsecond of distance over the equator 14:43 #navit: < jandegr> :) 14:43 -!- gernot_ [54969554@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.150.149.84] has joined #navit 14:43 #navit: < gernot_> hi 14:43 #navit: < kazer> hi gernot_ 14:44 #navit: < zoff99> 1 angström per pint and inch within 2 stones of a yard 14:44 #navit: < zoff99> per pound of course 14:44 #navit: < kazer> haha 14:44 #navit: < zoff99> and liquid ounce squared 14:45 #navit: < zoff99> at least the brits have °C and not that farenheit thing 14:47 #navit: < zoff99> does anyone still use reomure (or what that is called) ? 14:48 #navit: < zoff99> jan? you died? 14:49 #navit: < jandegr> back alive 14:49 #navit: * zoff99 summons jan back to life 14:49 #navit: * kazer sets mode +zombie jandegr 14:50 #navit: < zoff99> any new routing magic , jan? 14:51 #navit: < kazer> looks like he found a path from the dead land, that's some routing magic to me 14:52 #navit: < jandegr> hmm, since kazer wiped out QA I can't impress anymore ... so no new tricks 14:52 #navit: < kazer> i did not wipe out the QA... 14:53 #navit: < zoff99> the what? 14:53 #navit: < kazer> our circleci routing QA 14:54 #navit: < zoff99> thats all zero progress 14:54 #navit: < zoff99> anyway 14:54 #navit: < jandegr> well, you removed all the cases, but it is understandable if mine outperfroms all the time.. 14:54 #navit: < zoff99> openGL and stuff is just eye candy. waste of time 14:55 #navit: < zoff99> no more real progress for a long time 14:57 #navit: < kazer> jandegr: did i? 14:58 #navit: < jandegr> basilic was this not a case from you ? https://296-40190699-gh.circle-artifacts.com/0/tmp/circle-artifacts.fVaPli2/Vierzon_turn_restriction.yamlmetric.png 14:58 #navit: < jandegr> long time ago kazer 14:58 #navit: < jandegr> https://github.com/navit-gps/routing-qa/commit/d9806e7d75344fec3d126ed68b709a1936a15d6e 14:58 #navit: < jandegr> but we understand :) 15:00 #navit: < zoff99> next step is to delete the main repo 15:01 #navit: < jandegr> zoff99 why close the museum ? 15:02 #navit: < zoff99> jan: right 15:02 #navit: < zoff99> for people to learn and study 15:02 #navit: < jandegr> and carputers :) 15:03 #navit: < kazer> jandegr: oh shit. that was for the summary page.. which was never finished.. 15:03 #navit: < jandegr> we understand kazer, no need for ....... 15:03 #navit: < zoff99> jan: you bad. car-putas . tzzz tzzz 15:03 #navit: < zoff99> such dirty mouth 15:04 #navit: < jandegr> when zoff99 arrives people get ....... 15:04 #navit: < jandegr> other days I am all alone with a dissident voice... 15:05 #navit: < zoff99> when the evil one arrives, there is bound to be some black rain ... 15:05 #navit: < jandegr> does the dark side have a project I can open in androidstudio ? 15:05 #navit: < kazer> your black magic vanished with cp15 zoff99 :) i don't think anybody here sees you as a dark lord of the sith :) 15:06 #navit: < jandegr> I do :) 15:06 #navit: < zoff99> thats because you are all on the light side 15:06 #navit: < jandegr> I'll be in the shade then 15:07 #navit: < zoff99> i'll wait until jan does some new stuff. thats not cosmetics :) 15:07 #navit: < jandegr> thx :) 15:07 #navit: < kazer> jandegr: actually we have a stub of the report page for routing : http://navit-gps.github.io/routing-qa/ 15:07 #navit: < zoff99> then steal it . haaaaaa haaa haaaa :D 15:08 #navit: < kazer> zoff99: we'll hand it out for free. Then you can't steal it, 'cause it's free :) 15:08 #navit: < zoff99> oh no, i will steal it, before you give it out 15:08 #navit: < jandegr> kazer, you must be fooling me, some repoting page without cases in the repo ??? 15:09 #navit: < kazer> jandegr: some branch magic 15:09 #navit: < zoff99> jan: you have a screenshot of the new openGL ? is it just for android or generic? 15:09 #navit: < kazer> tests are in different branches.. iirc, it was a trick to speed up tests... 15:09 #navit: < kazer> jandegr: next step was to add the map screenshot from the ci to this page 15:10 #navit: < jandegr> openGLES just for android 15:10 #navit: < jandegr> the real way :) 15:10 #navit: < zoff99> uhh, very dark-side-ish jan :P 15:10 #navit: < zoff99> just for android 15:10 #navit: < jandegr> I am radicalising fast :) 15:10 #navit: < zoff99> have a screenshot? 15:11 #navit: < zoff99> does it also look better? or same old äääch? 15:12 #navit: < jandegr> I just finished some code today to draw roads without the need for tessalating, will round it up next week or so with the last work of tessalation of polygons 15:14 #navit: < jandegr> and then benchmark it against vanilla navit :) 15:15 #navit: < jandegr> going into zombie state for 10 min or so 15:18 #navit: < zoff99> whats a tessalation? 15:20 #navit: < zoff99> also is the openGL quasi drop-in? for the lines and poly functions? 15:22 #navit: < jandegr> 1) turn everything into trangles, 2) yes 15:22 #navit: < zoff99> cool 15:22 #navit: < jandegr> but does not work with gui_internal :) 15:22 #navit: < zoff99> because i have drawing areas larger then the screen size, and tripple buffering 15:22 #navit: < zoff99> yeah!!!! death to gui internal 15:23 #navit: < zoff99> gui internal is blasphemy anyhow 15:24 #navit: < jandegr> I just won't bother to get gui_internal to work with openGLES, it does drawing calls just everywhere in the code , scattered all over 15:24 #navit: < jandegr> at least mapview still worked with a displaylist 15:25 #navit: < jandegr> and I could catch that with 2 semaphores, 15:25 #navit: < jandegr> free the main thread and charge the gpu 15:26 #navit: < zoff99> displaylist is blasphemy , aswell 15:26 #navit: < jandegr> we know you have some other god :) 15:26 #navit: < zoff99> i dont draw on the main thread anyway 15:26 #navit: < jandegr> but still software rendering 15:26 #navit: < zoff99> openGL if its drop in is ok. otherwise the effort is to great for small gain 15:27 #navit: < jandegr> I am not trying to force you into it, you already said you don't want it :) 15:27 #navit: < zoff99> i want to steal it, if its little work :P 15:28 #navit: < zoff99> i dont want to put effort into it, when there are soooo many other bigger problems still 15:28 #navit: < jandegr> cleptomaniac ? 15:31 #navit: < zoff99> just realist 15:32 #navit: < jandegr> hmm, IIRC I merged the last routing stuff myself into zanavi..... 15:32 #navit: < jandegr> anyway, zombie till sunrise now :) 15:32 -!- jandegr [5742b2cc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.66.178.204] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:33 #navit: < zoff99> yeah, u shouldered the heavy load 15:35 #navit: < kazer> zoff99: you broke down the maps into several parts, right? are you processing the coast lines seperately to host them in a different file? 15:51 -!- xenos1984 [~xenos1984@22-164-191-90.dyn.estpak.ee] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 15:59 #navit: < gernot_> by 16:00 -!- gernot_ [54969554@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.150.149.84] has quit [] 16:11 -!- xenos1984 [~xenos1984@22-164-191-90.dyn.estpak.ee] has joined #navit 16:18 -!- zoff99 [~chatzilla@unaffiliated/zoff99] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86-rdmsoft [XULRunner 1.9.1/20090707221522]] 17:46 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: noradtux, kazer, @Horwitz 17:48 -!- Netsplit over, joins: noradtux 17:52 -!- kazer [~kazer@2601:643:8104:ba60:eea8:6bff:fef8:449] has joined #navit 17:52 -!- Horwitz [~mich1@p200300800E02F400022268FFFE64E7C4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #navit 17:52 -!- ServerMode/#navit [+o Horwitz] by hitchcock.freenode.net 18:53 -!- xenos1984 [~xenos1984@22-164-191-90.dyn.estpak.ee] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 19:19 #navit: < Navit> The following compiles failed: http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/android_armv5te/svn/navit-svn-7181.failed http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/openmoko/svn/navit-svn-7181.failed http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/win32/svn/navit-svn-7181.failed http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/n800/svn/navit-svn-7181.failed http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/android_armv4t/svn/navit-svn-7181.failed http://download.na 19:19 #navit: < Navit> /svn/navit-svn-7181.failed http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/tomtom/svn/navit-svn-7181.failed 19:19 #navit: < Navit> See compile results history at http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/stats.html 19:29 -!- pmckinley [~peter@88-110-195-80.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 19:49 -!- Horwitz [~mich1@p200300800E02F400022268FFFE64E7C4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20:03 -!- Horwitz [~mich1@p200300800E030101022268FFFE64E7C4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #navit 20:03 -!- mode/#navit [+o Horwitz] by ChanServ 22:06 -!- Celelibi [celelibi@4.172.87.79.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Disconnected by services] 22:06 -!- Celelibi_ [celelibi@4.172.87.79.rev.sfr.net] has joined #navit 22:07 -!- Millesim- [~Millesimu@serenity.pestnagel.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 22:10 -!- Millesimus [~Millesimu@serenity.pestnagel.org] has joined #navit --- Log closed Wed Feb 15 00:00:56 2017