--- Log opened Mon Apr 03 00:00:07 2017 02:29 -!- jjelen [jjelen@nat/redhat/x-ngtcrhynvorlqmta] has joined #navit 02:39 -!- xenos1984 [~xenos1984@2001:bb8:2002:200:6651:6ff:fe53:a120] has joined #navit 05:10 -!- ilovekiruna [~ilovekiru@p5DC1A35C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #navit 05:10 #navit: < ilovekiruna> Is navit-project.org just temporary down? 06:09 -!- jjelen [jjelen@nat/redhat/x-ngtcrhynvorlqmta] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 06:11 -!- jjelen [jjelen@nat/redhat/x-cijqrrbvormbjicz] has joined #navit 06:15 -!- ilovekiruna [~ilovekiru@p5DC1A35C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:53 -!- circleci-bot [~circleci-@ec2-54-144-1-59.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has joined #navit 06:53 #navit: < circleci-bot> Failed: metalstrolch's build (#1711; push) in navit-gps/navit (qt5_qml) -- https://circleci.com/gh/navit-gps/navit/1711?utm_campaign=chatroom-integration&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=irc 06:53 -!- circleci-bot [~circleci-@ec2-54-144-1-59.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has quit [Client Quit] 07:09 -!- circleci-bot [~circleci-@ec2-54-196-232-62.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has joined #navit 07:09 #navit: < circleci-bot> Fixed: metalstrolch's build (#1712; push) in navit-gps/navit (qt5_qml) -- https://circleci.com/gh/navit-gps/navit/1712?utm_campaign=chatroom-integration&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=irc 07:09 -!- circleci-bot [~circleci-@ec2-54-196-232-62.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has quit [Client Quit] 08:07 -!- circleci-bot [~circleci-@ec2-107-22-38-133.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has joined #navit 08:07 #navit: < circleci-bot> Success: metalstrolch's build (#1713; push) in navit-gps/navit (qt5_qml) -- https://circleci.com/gh/navit-gps/navit/1713?utm_campaign=chatroom-integration&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=irc 08:07 -!- circleci-bot [~circleci-@ec2-107-22-38-133.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has quit [Client Quit] 09:54 -!- jjelen [jjelen@nat/redhat/x-cijqrrbvormbjicz] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 10:08 -!- manteniment [~chatmovil@xmpp.suchat.org] has joined #navit 10:10 #navit: < manteniment> Hello, sorry for the question, there are problems with the web, right? 10:45 -!- xenos1984 [~xenos1984@2001:bb8:2002:200:6651:6ff:fe53:a120] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 11:03 -!- manteniment [~chatmovil@xmpp.suchat.org] has left #navit [] 11:12 -!- xenos1984 [~xenos1984@22-164-191-90.dyn.estpak.ee] has joined #navit 11:13 -!- pini [~pini@bou-fi.pustule.org] has joined #navit 11:29 #navit: < tryagain> manteniment manteniment zintor & all We're having hardware problems with our central server. 11:30 #navit: < tryagain> Unforunately, we can't give any prognosis on downtime currently. 11:30 #navit: < tryagain> Maps are available on http://maps9.navit-project.org 11:35 #navit: < tryagain> sorry, maps9 went down too... :( 11:43 -!- robot_ [518d3a5b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.81.141.58.91] has joined #navit 11:44 -!- robot_ is now known as Guest7617 11:45 -!- Guest7617 [518d3a5b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.81.141.58.91] has quit [Client Quit] 11:53 -!- pini [~pini@bou-fi.pustule.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:00 -!- noradtux_ [~noradtux@port-6789.pppoe.wtnet.de] has joined #navit 13:00 -!- noradtux [~noradtux@port-2626.pppoe.wtnet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 13:00 -!- noradtux_ is now known as noradtux 13:51 -!- ilovekiruna [~ilovekiru@b2b-130-180-113-170.unitymedia.biz] has joined #navit 14:24 #navit: < tryagain> Maps are now available on http://maps3.navit-project.org 14:25 -!- zintor [~steffen@HSI-KBW-46-223-225-19.hsi.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has joined #navit 14:25 #navit: < zintor> hi @all 14:25 #navit: < tryagain> hi zintor 14:25 #navit: < zintor> hi tryagain 14:26 #navit: < zintor> problems with the server... :( 14:26 #navit: < tryagain> yes, but the recent map is already available on maps3 14:27 #navit: < zintor> *thumbsup* 14:29 #navit: < zintor> "3" means, that there are normally more servers available? 14:29 #navit: < zintor> I read, that also "9" exists 14:30 #navit: < tryagain> there used to be more... If you have some resources, we can host even more :) 14:32 #navit: < zintor> as I understand the server should be powerful. I rent a vserver, running only an eggdrop, but I do not know the "power" atm. 14:34 #navit: < zintor> I will have a look 14:41 #navit: < tryagain> we need about 60 GB of disk space to keep files (SATA is ok, SSD is not required). 14:41 #navit: < tryagain> We're not going to process planet.osm to planet.bin on your server. You'll serve a preprocessed file, which will be updated with diffs. 14:42 #navit: < tryagain> The main question is if you have paid on per-gigabyte traffic or unlimited tariff. 14:47 #navit: < zintor> well...I do not know the power... host system are some Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5520 @ 2.27GHz. 14:47 #navit: < zintor> I have traffic incl.: 200,00 GB 14:49 #navit: < zintor> hmm...I can't believe it...I do not know how many disc space is available! 14:53 #navit: < tryagain> zintor do youhave shell access to it? then type df 14:55 #navit: < tryagain> what if we exceed traffic limit? We'll try to keep inside the limit, but who knows... 14:58 #navit: < zintor> 2961168 1K-Blocks, that means 1.41 GB ?!? really? that is not much! 14:59 #navit: < zintor> no... df -h says: 2.9G 14:59 #navit: < zintor> but this is also toooooo small 14:59 #navit: < zintor> hmm...I have to upgrade! :D 15:01 #navit: < zintor> that's a good point! I need to contact the hoster! 15:01 #navit: < zintor> so atm I can't help much! 15:06 #navit: < tryagain> anyway, thank you for your effort :) 15:09 #navit: < zintor> np, because it helped me also to get an overview of my small, small server and to get in contact with the hoster 15:10 -!- gernot_ [5496995c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.150.153.92] has joined #navit 15:10 #navit: < gernot_> hi 15:11 #navit: < gernot_> zintor: try bklid 15:11 #navit: < gernot_> may be you have a additional drive 15:11 #navit: < gernot_> zintor: sorry blkid 15:12 #navit: < zintor> "command not found" 15:12 #navit: < gernot_> zintor: or you have a webinterface to add a virtual disk 15:12 #navit: < zintor> no 15:12 #navit: < zintor> nothing 15:14 #navit: < gernot_> cat /proc/diskstats 15:14 #navit: < zintor> cat: /proc/diskstats: No such file or directory 15:15 #navit: < gernot_> hmmm what is this... 15:15 #navit: < zintor> old! 15:15 #navit: < zintor> pff....not logged in with root! :D 15:15 #navit: < zintor> douh 15:15 #navit: < zintor> just a moment 15:15 #navit: < zintor> please hold the line 15:16 #navit: < zintor> but it's the same. :-/ 15:18 #navit: < gernot_> uname -a should show the system type 15:19 #navit: < tryagain> windows 3.11? :) 15:19 #navit: < zintor> lol 15:19 #navit: < zintor> x86_64 GNU/Linux 15:19 #navit: < gernot_> sorrym cant help with this system. also the small partition is plausible 15:20 #navit: < gernot_> ok 15:20 #navit: < gernot_> :-) 15:20 #navit: < zintor> I wrote an e-mail to the hoster to upgrade to a better system 15:22 #navit: < zintor> metalstrolch made some progress with qt5! 15:22 #navit: < gernot_> cat /proc/partitions 15:23 #navit: < gernot_> nice 15:23 #navit: < zintor> it shows nothing with cat /proc/partitions 15:24 #navit: < gernot_> looks like all partitions mounted via network 15:25 #navit: < zintor> maybe...I am waiting for the new offer 15:25 #navit: < zintor> from the hoster 15:25 #navit: < gernot_> in this case "mount" shold show how / is mounted 15:25 #navit: < zintor> /dev/vzfs on / type reiserfs (rw,usrquota,grpquota) 15:32 #navit: < gernot_> googling for /dev/vzfs shows me zhat the mail to the hoster is the right way... 15:33 #navit: < zintor> lol 15:33 #navit: < gernot_> zhat=that 15:34 #navit: < gernot_> (in case you dont have a web configuration interface) 15:34 #navit: < zintor> I would like to set up a virtualbox for compiling and testing navit 15:34 #navit: < zintor> any suggestions on the system? 15:34 #navit: < gernot_> I useed a locah virtualbox to build opentom 15:35 #navit: < gernot_> locah=local 15:35 #navit: < zintor> for me also local virtualbox 15:35 #navit: < zintor> oh...reply from hoster! I will upgrade for the same monthly fee :) 15:37 #navit: < gernot_> no problem. it worked well. I unstalled debian 8 64 bit xfce 15:37 #navit: < gernot_> that is good 15:37 #navit: < zintor> 100 GB SSD or 200 GB HDD, 4 GB RAM guranteed, connection: 100 Mbit/s, unlmited traffic 15:37 #navit: < gernot_> wow 15:38 #navit: < zintor> ^^ that's ok? or a sarcastic "wow" ;) 15:38 #navit: < gernot_> no its a nice ok 200GB, unlimited traffic, same price... 15:42 #navit: < zintor> so...after switching to new server and transfering the eggdrop, I will let you know to help with some space 15:46 -!- noradtux [~noradtux@port-6789.pppoe.wtnet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:46 #navit: < zintor> at the moment, the vServer has: 15:46 #navit: < zintor> model name : Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5520 @ 2.27GHz 15:46 #navit: < zintor> model name : Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5520 @ 2.27GHz 15:46 #navit: < zintor> grep "MHz" /proc/cpuinfo 15:46 #navit: < zintor> cpu MHz : 396.256 15:46 #navit: < zintor> cpu MHz : 396.256 15:47 #navit: < zintor> free -m 15:47 #navit: < zintor> total used free shared buffers cached 15:47 #navit: < zintor> Mem: 512 112 399 0 0 66 15:47 #navit: < zintor> that's also not much! 15:48 -!- noradtux [~noradtux@port-18631.pppoe.wtnet.de] has joined #navit 15:49 #navit: < gernot_> its faster them my raspi3 :-) , but i have more memory and disk 15:51 #navit: < zintor> hehe 15:52 #navit: < zintor> debian minimal will be installed in a virtualbox 15:53 #navit: < zintor> schau mer mal 15:53 #navit: < gernot_> use at least xfce. minimal is so hard to get all X telated things 15:53 #navit: < gernot_> telated=related 15:54 #navit: < gernot_> ich sollte lesen bevor ich enter drücke 15:54 #navit: < zintor> is there a ready iso with xfce? 15:54 #navit: < gernot_> yes 15:55 #navit: < zintor> minimal install let me choose 15:56 #navit: < zintor> I hope 8 GB for the virtual disk is enough...I will store the files from github on the host system 15:57 #navit: < gernot_> http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current-live/amd64/iso-hybrid/ 15:58 #navit: < zintor> thx 15:58 #navit: < gernot_> I use 12GB. 8 work well, but maptool need more space fpr big maps 16:00 #navit: < zintor> ok...will use 12GB 16:01 #navit: < zintor> a question on contour lines: is there a possibility to use it with shades? "schummerung" in german 16:01 #navit: < zintor> http://www.reliefschummerung.de/rs_te_01_dtkdemo_fortsetzung_schummerung.html 16:02 #navit: < gernot_> gmmm 16:02 #navit: < zintor> hill shading 16:02 #navit: < gernot_> hmmmm 16:03 #navit: < zintor> read before you hit enter! 16:03 #navit: < zintor> lol 16:03 #navit: < gernot_> lol 16:03 #navit: < zintor> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Hillshading 16:03 #navit: < gernot_> i type faster then i think 16:04 #navit: < zintor> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/TopOSM 16:04 #navit: < zintor> looks good 16:04 #navit: < zintor> is it possible in navit? 16:05 #navit: < gernot_> I dont know 16:05 #navit: < zintor> who knows? 16:06 #navit: < gernot_> tryagain or kazer 16:07 #navit: < zintor> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Shaded_relief_maps_using_mapnik 16:07 #navit: < zintor> explains how to do 16:10 #navit: < tryagain> we have support for pre-rendered maps in form of bitmap pictures (png, for example), so you can use pre-rendered picture set for extreme zoom-out levels. 16:14 #navit: < tryagain> jandegr was experimenting with raster maps a lot. For example, see here: http://trac.navit-project.org/ticket/1285 16:15 #navit: < gernot_> g8 16:15 #navit: < gernot_> by 16:15 -!- gernot_ [5496995c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.150.153.92] has quit [] 16:16 -!- ilovekiruna [~ilovekiru@b2b-130-180-113-170.unitymedia.biz] has left #navit ["Konversation terminated!"] 16:16 #navit: < zintor> do I understand it right: if I/we provide a shaded bitmap picture, it is possible to get a hill shaded mapin navit 16:17 #navit: < tryagain> yes 16:18 #navit: < zintor> ok...now, I need to understand how to do that ;) 16:19 #navit: < tryagain> but that would probably work for high zoom out values. When you zoom in, you will get default navit graphics. 16:20 #navit: < zintor> hmm, so it is not useable in "walking mode", which i would like to zoom in 16:21 #navit: < tryagain> ah, yes. Pictures would take much more space than vector files. And we have no infrastructure to distribute them. 16:22 #navit: < tryagain> But if you want to use it in some localities, you could render pictures of area you need, and use them. 16:22 #navit: < zintor> ok. I understand. I could test it local on my computer to get some hill shading maps for navit 16:23 #navit: < zintor> exists a navit wiki page for that? 16:24 #navit: < tryagain> i dont remember and can't check right now coz server is still down 16:24 #navit: < tryagain> here is jandegr' sample map file: http://trac.navit-project.org/attachment/ticket/1285/map3.txt 16:24 #navit: < zintor> I make a notice for that 16:25 #navit: < tryagain> you reference it from navit.xml with 16:25 #navit: < zintor> ah, ok 16:26 #navit: < tryagain> you'll have to modify coordinates and image names to fit your area and files 16:28 #navit: < zintor> I will give it a try 16:30 #navit: < zintor> thx for explanation 16:30 #navit: < zintor> I have to go now. 16:31 #navit: < zintor> gn8 all 16:31 -!- zintor [~steffen@HSI-KBW-46-223-225-19.hsi.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has left #navit [] 16:51 -!- tryagain [~quassel@46.172.22.15] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:44 -!- latouche_ [~Latouche@reverse-169.fdn.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 18:44 -!- latouche [~Latouche@reverse-169.fdn.fr] has joined #navit 19:08 -!- Horwitz [~mich1@p200300800E33ED00022268FFFE64E7C4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:26 -!- Horwitz [~mich1@p200300800E3F8500022268FFFE64E7C4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #navit 19:26 -!- mode/#navit [+o Horwitz] by ChanServ 20:16 -!- xenos1984 [~xenos1984@22-164-191-90.dyn.estpak.ee] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] --- Log closed Tue Apr 04 00:00:09 2017