--- Log opened Wed May 17 00:00:15 2017 02:11 -!- jjelen [jjelen@nat/redhat/x-ppiriktkqtcbvkrx] has joined #navit 02:26 -!- xenos1984 [~xenos1984@2001:bb8:2002:200:6651:6ff:fe53:a120] has joined #navit 04:04 -!- ilovekiruna [~ilovekiru@wlanguest094.wlan.tu-clausthal.de] has joined #navit 04:12 -!- ilovekiruna [~ilovekiru@wlanguest094.wlan.tu-clausthal.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 07:34 -!- ilovekiruna [~ilovekiru@wlanguest094.wlan.tu-clausthal.de] has joined #navit 07:35 -!- ilovekiruna [~ilovekiru@wlanguest094.wlan.tu-clausthal.de] has quit [Client Quit] 07:35 -!- ilovekiruna [~ilovekiru@wlanguest094.wlan.tu-clausthal.de] has joined #navit 07:54 -!- ilovekiruna [~ilovekiru@wlanguest094.wlan.tu-clausthal.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:24 -!- pini [~pini@bou-fi.pustule.org] has joined #navit 10:18 -!- jjelen [jjelen@nat/redhat/x-ppiriktkqtcbvkrx] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:40 -!- xenos1984 [~xenos1984@2001:bb8:2002:200:6651:6ff:fe53:a120] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 11:33 -!- xenos1984 [~xenos1984@22-164-191-90.dyn.estpak.ee] has joined #navit 12:25 -!- j_f-f [~quassel@rs-6.jff-webhosting.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:27 -!- j_f-f [~quassel@rs-6.jff-webhosting.net] has joined #navit 12:48 -!- robertp [5849c97e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.88.73.201.126] has joined #navit 13:12 #navit: < kazer> hey robertp 13:12 #navit: < robertp> hi kazer 13:12 #navit: < kazer> to answer your question about tests, there is a trick 13:12 #navit: < kazer> in the main repo, we have parallel builds enabled, but you only looked at the output of container 0 13:13 #navit: < kazer> linux and win32 were built in container 1 for example : https://circleci.com/gh/navit-gps/navit/1893#tests/containers/1 13:15 #navit: < kazer> the magic is to have a config like this : https://github.com/navit-gps/navit/blob/trunk/circle.yml#L29-L31 and have enabled parallel builds in the project's config, in the UI 13:15 #navit: < robertp> But shouldnt the output mention all builds? 13:17 #navit: < robertp> Ah, I see. :D 13:17 #navit: < kazer> :) 13:18 -!- jfitie [4df99fa5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.249.159.165] has joined #navit 13:18 #navit: < jfitie> hi 13:18 #navit: < kazer> hi jfitie 13:19 -!- jandegr [5bb4bcb3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.180.188.179] has joined #navit 13:19 #navit: < kazer> hey jandegr 13:19 #navit: < jandegr> hi there 13:19 #navit: < jandegr> hi kazer 13:19 #navit: < jfitie> @kazer Do you know when the maps on maps.navit-project.org are updated? Hope to see the new polys included (https://github.com/navit-gps/navit/commit/b261b113cdef163499661110e6a4c34289d8d8f9) 13:20 #navit: < kazer> jfitie: currently once a week, on wednesdays 13:20 #navit: < jfitie> Last build is 170508, a monday. So new builds today? 13:21 #navit: < kazer> ah, odd. It used to be on wednesdays, maybe cp15 changed it when he replaced the server, last month or so 13:21 #navit: < kazer> i'll try to have a look to double check 13:23 #navit: < kazer> robertp: you might be intereted in this. There's still a lot of work to do, but I got a simple qt app running on the framebuffer in an image built using buildroot https://buildroot.org/ 13:23 #navit: < jandegr> is the date when it finished, updated OSM or started maptool ? 13:23 #navit: < kazer> so we should be able to build pre-backed images ready to flash really soon 13:24 #navit: < jfitie> thanks kazer 13:24 #navit: < kazer> jandegr: i believe that the date is when the build starts 13:25 #navit: < kazer> btw guys, show of hand : who would like to replace some content of the wiki with something like sphinx docs, auto generated from the code, hosted on readthedocs? 13:25 #navit: < kazer> the reason i'm asking is that it would link the doc to the changes we do in the code. Nobody really maintains the wiki 13:25 #navit: * kazer raises his hand 13:26 #navit: < kazer> http://navit.readthedocs.io/en/latest/ (an old POC using my own repo) 13:45 #navit: < jandegr> seems like you scared them all away kazer 13:45 #navit: < jandegr> time for the next topic I suppose 13:46 #navit: < jandegr> whenever you work on you qml a bit more, you now have the chance to implement the postocode search 13:47 #navit: < kazer> jandegr: looks like it indeed :) 13:47 #navit: < kazer> jandegr: since you're still here, i'd like your thoughts :) 13:47 #navit: < kazer> yes for postcode search 13:47 #navit: < jandegr> I did not raise my hand 13:47 #navit: < kazer> don't care or don't want it? 13:48 #navit: < jandegr> postcode or the hand ? 13:48 #navit: < kazer> the hand :) 13:48 #navit: < jandegr> ah.... 13:48 #navit: < jandegr> the link you posted did not show much 13:50 #navit: < jandegr> so don't really know what to expect or work towards... 13:52 #navit: < kazer> good point. Here's more thoughts about it : the goal is to have most of the doc being programatically generated. It makes it easier to update the doc when we update a feature. Sphinx uses a markdown like system that allows you to focus on the content, and still get something that looks decent 13:52 #navit: < kazer> actually, i'll setup some doc example and i'll get back to you guys. Might be easier 13:54 #navit: < jandegr> is it a replacement of the doc thing we have now ? (forgot the name) 13:54 #navit: < robertp> doxygen? 13:56 #navit: < jandegr> yeah, doxygen, thx 13:58 #navit: < kazer> i see it as a complementary tool. Doxygen is really dev-oriented. Function prototypes and stuffs like that. This would be more user-facing doc. Like, how to configure or enable a feature 13:59 #navit: < jandegr> hmm, looks like we will have to wait for a sample :) 14:01 #navit: < kazer> yeah probably. 14:02 #navit: < robertp> I do not believe that a code-generated doc can be a suitable user documentation.... 14:02 #navit: < jandegr> I agree with robertp 14:02 #navit: < jandegr> this once :) 14:03 #navit: < robertp> you probably will regret that 14:03 #navit: < jandegr> was just once :) 14:03 #navit: < robertp> should never happen again 14:03 #navit: < jandegr> ok 14:03 #navit: < robertp> :D 14:04 #navit: < jandegr> kazer now any navit enthousiast can work on doc / wiki and such 14:04 #navit: < jandegr> if you embedd it in code, no non-coders will bother 14:04 #navit: < kazer> jandegr: true, and that's how we've done it in the past ( the enthusiast ) 14:05 #navit: < kazer> but there's several problems : consistency, and no knowledge of the code. I think that the one who can write the doc the best is the one that implements the feature 14:05 #navit: < jandegr> so wrong 14:06 #navit: < jandegr> coders take too much for granted 14:06 #navit: < kazer> they do for sure. 14:07 #navit: < kazer> anyway i do believe that our current documentation process is broken. With qt5/qml2 around the corner I would really like to address that and raise the bar 14:07 #navit: < kazer> can you guys please have a quick look at https://docs.readthedocs.io/en/latest/getting_started.html ? no commitement expected 14:15 #navit: < jandegr> looks good but I still think the requirement to have a github account and get into that committing stuff places a threshold 14:20 #navit: < kazer> that's a valid point 14:20 #navit: < jandegr> anyway, you know the risks involved when you ask me things 14:20 #navit: < kazer> to edit our wiki, you also need an account though 14:20 #navit: < jandegr> so I gave a few 'worst case' comments 14:20 #navit: < kazer> jandegr: that's exactly why i ask :) 14:21 #navit: < jandegr> so why not let robertp have a say in it ? 14:22 #navit: < robertp> he is not alowed to have an opinion 14:22 #navit: < jandegr> I think I can convince kazer to grant you that right :) 14:31 #navit: < kazer> jandegr can be really convincing :) 14:58 -!- jandegr [5bb4bcb3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.180.188.179] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:14 -!- jfitie [4df99fa5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.249.159.165] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:26 -!- robertp [5849c97e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.88.73.201.126] has quit [Quit: run away] 16:03 -!- pini [~pini@bou-fi.pustule.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:31 -!- ilovekiruna [~ilovekiru@b2b-130-180-113-170.unitymedia.biz] has joined #navit 16:52 -!- Irssi: No PONG reply from server irc.freenode.net in 301 seconds, disconnecting 16:52 -!- Irssi: Connection lost to irc.freenode.net 16:52 -!- Irssi: Removed reconnection to server irc.freenode.net port 6667 16:52 -!- Irssi: Looking up irc.freenode.net 16:52 -!- Irssi: Unable to connect server irc.freenode.net port 6667 [Temporary failure in name resolution] 16:57 -!- Irssi: Removed reconnection to server irc.freenode.net port 6667 16:57 -!- Irssi: Looking up irc.freenode.net 16:58 -!- Irssi: Unable to connect server irc.freenode.net port 6667 [Temporary failure in name resolution] 17:03 -!- Irssi: Removed reconnection to server irc.freenode.net port 6667 17:03 -!- Irssi: Looking up irc.freenode.net 17:03 -!- Irssi: Reconnecting to irc.freenode.net [173.230.128.213] port 6667 - use /RMRECONNS to abort 17:04 -!- Irssi: Unable to connect server irc.freenode.net port 6667 [Connection timed out] 17:09 -!- Irssi: Removed reconnection to server irc.freenode.net port 6667 17:09 -!- Irssi: Looking up irc.freenode.net 17:09 -!- Irssi: Reconnecting to irc.freenode.net [94.125.182.252] port 6667 - use /RMRECONNS to abort 17:09 -!- Irssi: Connection to irc.freenode.net established 17:09 !adams.freenode.net *** Looking up your hostname... 17:09 !adams.freenode.net *** Checking Ident 17:09 !adams.freenode.net *** Found your hostname 17:09 !adams.freenode.net *** No Ident response 17:09 -!- Welcome to the freenode Internet Relay Chat Network NavitLogger 17:09 -!- Your host is adams.freenode.net[94.125.182.252/6667], running version ircd-seven-1.1.4 17:09 -!- This server was created Mon Jan 9 2017 at 14:25:49 CET 17:09 -!- adams.freenode.net ircd-seven-1.1.4 DOQRSZaghilopswz CFILMPQSbcefgijklmnopqrstvz bkloveqjfI 17:09 -!- CHANTYPES=# EXCEPTS INVEX CHANMODES=eIbq,k,flj,CFLMPQScgimnprstz CHANLIMIT=#:120 PREFIX=(ov)@+ MAXLIST=bqeI:100 MODES=4 NETWORK=freenode STATUSMSG=@+ CALLERID=g CASEMAPPING=rfc1459 are supported by this server 17:09 -!- CHARSET=ascii NICKLEN=16 CHANNELLEN=50 TOPICLEN=390 DEAF=D FNC TARGMAX=NAMES:1,LIST:1,KICK:1,WHOIS:1,PRIVMSG:4,NOTICE:4,ACCEPT:,MONITOR: EXTBAN=$,ajrxz CLIENTVER=3.0 CPRIVMSG CNOTICE ETRACE are supported by this server 17:09 -!- KNOCK SAFELIST ELIST=CTU WHOX are supported by this server 17:09 -!- There are 135 users and 92922 invisible on 27 servers 17:09 -!- 30 IRC Operators online 17:09 -!- 87 unknown connection(s) 17:09 -!- 60288 channels formed 17:09 -!- I have 5101 clients and 1 servers 17:09 -!- 5101 5530 Current local users 5101, max 5530 17:09 -!- 93057 96395 Current global users 93057, max 96395 17:09 -!- Highest connection count: 5531 (5530 clients) (81916 connections received) 17:09 -!- - adams.freenode.net Message of the Day - 17:09 -!- - Welcome to adams.freenode.net. 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Channel is logged : http://irclogs.navit.ie/ Follow @NavitProject on Twitter. 17:09 -!- Topic set by KaZeR [~kazer@4.170.67.86.rev.sfr.net] [Mon May 23 13:10:04 2011] 17:09 [Users #navit] 17:09 [@ChanServ] [ ColdFyre ] [ kazer ] [ Millesimus ] [ Number6 ] 17:09 [@Horwitz ] [ ilovekiruna] [ latouche_] [ Navit ] [ rdo ] 17:09 [ bzed ] [ j_f-f ] [ magruder ] [ NavitLogger] [ toxx ] 17:09 [ Celelibi] [ jkoan ] [ Marc0 ] [ noradtux ] [ xenos1984] 17:09 -!- Irssi: #navit: Total of 20 nicks [2 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 18 normal] 17:09 -!- Channel #navit created Sun Nov 26 01:47:57 2006 17:09 -!- Irssi: Join to #navit was synced in 7 secs 18:59 -!- xenos1984 [~xenos1984@22-164-191-90.dyn.estpak.ee] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 19:25 -!- toxx [~cnc-guy@v3-1260.vlinux.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 19:34 -!- Horwitz [~mich1@p200300800E006700022268FFFE64E7C4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:37 -!- toxx [~cnc-guy@v3-1260.vlinux.de] has joined #navit 20:02 -!- Horwitz [~mich1@p200300800E463B00022268FFFE64E7C4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #navit 20:02 -!- mode/#navit [+o Horwitz] by ChanServ 20:40 #navit: < Navit> The following compiles failed: http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/android_armv5te/svn/navit-svn-7551.failed http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/src/svn/navit-svn-7551.failed http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/openmoko/svn/navit-svn-7551.failed http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/win32/svn/navit-svn-7551.failed http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/n800/svn/navit-svn-7551.failed http://download.navit-project.or 20:40 #navit: < Navit> it-svn-7551.failed http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/android_x86/svn/navit-svn-7551.failed http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/tomtom/svn/navit-svn-7551.failed 20:40 #navit: < Navit> See compile results history at http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/stats.html --- Log closed Thu May 18 00:00:17 2017