--- Log opened Fri Jun 16 00:00:50 2017 00:07 #navit: < kazer> that was fast 04:44 #navit: < jkoan> Kazer: if you are finished with the wiki and forum things I have a really nice Ticket for you. This in addition to the responsive design would be really nice ;) #1054 04:59 #navit: < jkoan> Also Kazer, it would be nice if you could check my permissions on trac, I can't add milestone (or don't find it) 05:27 #navit: < kazer> jkoan: i'd say we are almost finish. SSL certs should also be updated once the dns update is propagated. Then if we are satisfied and don't find any issues, we can do the real switch 05:27 #navit: < kazer> btw, they are accessible now as http://wiki2.navit-project.org and http://forum2.navit-project.org 05:28 #navit: < kazer> when the dns propagation will be done, https should work on both domains, and we can then enforce https 05:28 #navit: < jkoan> Is the data synced between wiki and wiki2? 05:28 -!- xenos1984 [~xenos1984@22-164-191-90.dyn.estpak.ee] has joined #navit 05:28 #navit: < kazer> the current datas are from yesterday i think. But i'll sync them once last time before doing the switch. syncing is easy 05:29 #navit: < jkoan> Okay, nice 05:29 #navit: < jkoan> So switch on this weekend? 05:30 #navit: < kazer> i've added #1054 to my todo list, thanks for bringing it up 05:30 #navit: < kazer> yeah this weekend sounds plausible 05:30 #navit: < jkoan> Nice 05:31 #navit: < kazer> do we have a ticket for the responsive design? is that for the wiki or the forum? 05:31 #navit: < jkoan> Off topic: do you think replacing the whole tomtom system would be possible? 05:32 #navit: < jkoan> No, we don't have right now, it's for Wiki and trac 05:32 #navit: < kazer> btw i only did the minimum upgrades right now, on both, to ensure that they work with more up to date php and things like that. We can work on getting them more up to date 05:32 #navit: < kazer> like, wiki is running 1.23 when 1.28 is out 05:32 -!- pini [~pini@bou-fi.pustule.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:33 #navit: < kazer> i think that replacing the whole system is possible if a jailbkreak exists. we would have to investigate 05:33 #navit: < kazer> because then we could just build an image using buildroot or something similar 05:33 #navit: < kazer> which would be super cool 05:33 #navit: < jkoan> Trac would be nice because I work a lot with my smartphone 05:33 #navit: < jkoan> Yes, a navitos would be really nice 05:33 #navit: < kazer> a responsive trac layout? not sure that it exists :) 05:34 #navit: < jkoan> :'( 05:34 #navit: < kazer> let me look into your trac permissions btw 05:34 #navit: < jkoan> Thanks 05:36 #navit: < kazer> congrats, you now have admin rights on tickets, milestones and roadmap :) 05:37 #navit: < jkoan> Wuhu :) 05:39 #navit: < jkoan> How? ^^ 05:41 #navit: < kazer> i granted you the permissions :) 05:42 #navit: < kazer> can you access http://trac.navit-project.org/admin/ticket/milestones for example ? 05:43 #navit: < jkoan> "No administration panels available" 05:43 #navit: < kazer> ah 05:44 #navit: < kazer> The subject jkoan has been granted the permission TRAC_ADMIN. -> should solve that 05:44 #navit: < jkoan> I will do a relogin 05:45 #navit: < jkoan> No, same message :( 05:45 #navit: < kazer> oh i know what's going on with the notifications 05:45 #navit: < jkoan> Is my username jkoan or the whole openid string? 05:46 #navit: < jkoan> What is the problem? 05:48 #navit: < kazer> try login out and in again maybe? 05:48 #navit: < kazer> trac was using smtp settings from my old server 05:48 #navit: < kazer> :( 05:49 #navit: < jkoan> Not so nice 05:49 #navit: < jkoan> Now trac.navit-project.org is offline?! 05:50 #navit: < kazer> i was updating the config :) 05:50 #navit: < jkoan> Ah 05:50 #navit: < kazer> it's done 05:51 #navit: < kazer> have to go afk, back in a few hours 05:52 #navit: < jkoan> No, it's not working, same message 05:52 #navit: < jkoan> Okay :/ 06:29 -!- noradtux [~noradtux@port-34085.pppoe.wtnet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 06:30 -!- noradtux [~noradtux@port-49062.pppoe.wtnet.de] has joined #navit 06:30 #navit: < jkoan> kazer: you are a team member since years. Why ZaNavi exists and not mengreed back to navit? They do some things better then we, but other worth (in my thoughts) 08:09 -!- jjelen [jjelen@nat/redhat/x-rnfhoubyzuepmkso] has joined #navit 15:00 #navit: < kazer> jkoan: ok i'll double check track. 15:01 #navit: < kazer> ha, zanavi is a good question :) zoff99 (the guy behing zanavi) used to be a member of navit, but he decided to create a fork, focusing only on android 15:02 #navit: < kazer> we discussed a few times the idea of merging the two projects back together, but haven't been able to agree on the details yet 15:02 #navit: < kazer> he does have some really nice features, like a raster map that will show you a world map instead of a blank screen for example 15:16 #navit: < kazer> can you check your trac permissions again? 16:00 #navit: < jkoan> Now trac is working 16:07 #navit: < kazer> ok cool 16:09 #navit: < kazer> give me a moment before making changes in trac though : notifications are still broken 16:09 #navit: < kazer> but i'm getting close 17:03 -!- jjelen [jjelen@nat/redhat/x-rnfhoubyzuepmkso] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 18:33 #navit: < kazer> jkoan: trac has been updated and moved to the new server. Notifications are fixed 18:34 #navit: < jkoan> Really nice Kazer :) 18:35 #navit: < jkoan> Have you also looked for responsive theme? 18:35 #navit: < kazer> btw if you want to work on some updates on trac/wiki, we should replace references to Release000501 (and similar ones) with something compatible with semver ( http://semver.org/ ) 18:35 #navit: < kazer> so Release000501 should be v0.5.1 for example (that's how we tag them in git) 18:35 #navit: < kazer> haven't looked into the responsive theme yet. Have a couple of things to fix regarding ssl, and will look into it 18:36 #navit: < kazer> the new server should be faster, feedback on performances is welcome 18:38 #navit: < jkoan> For me it's faster 18:39 #navit: < kazer> sweet. have you tried the forums on the new server too ? 18:40 #navit: < kazer> https://forum2.navit-project.org 18:42 #navit: < jkoan> No, for me the Forum makes no sense 18:42 #navit: < kazer> you mean we should not have one? 18:43 #navit: < jkoan> I don't want to say that, but we have so much platforms we must inspect, so we lose our focus on writing incredible software 18:45 #navit: < kazer> it's partially true - but on the other hand we need a place for people to exchange ideas, ask for help and provide feedback 18:45 #navit: < ilovekiruna> especially for not ordinary people, I would say 18:46 #navit: < ilovekiruna> ordinary people dont use irc ;-) 18:46 #navit: < kazer> jkoan: but it's ok if you don't have the forums you don't have to use it :) 18:49 #navit: < jkoan> I agree with you Kazer, but right now I will focus on the project, on trac and bring Navit forward. We must improve it so that we don't need to answer questions about the software. The software must be intuitive and say what it needs at every time, so that people never get lost (in meaning of don't understand what to do as well as on the street) 18:50 #navit: < kazer> jkoan: fine by me! 18:51 #navit: < jkoan> kazer: you are a full admin on circleci? Could we enable osx build? Then we can also build a dmg for osx and probably in future also for iPhone 18:53 #navit: < kazer> yep 18:54 #navit: < kazer> the issue is that enabling osx works per repo, not per branch 18:54 #navit: < kazer> so we need a dedicated repo for that. Which could be very simple and just run a git checkout from the original repo 18:55 #navit: < kazer> if you are interested in working on this i can help you. I'd love to get an official iphone build 18:55 #navit: < jkoan> Wait... 18:55 #navit: < jkoan> Wo could not say that we want only one container to be osx build? 18:55 #navit: < kazer> nop 18:56 #navit: < jkoan> I hate it to make a decent repo for everything 18:56 #navit: < kazer> but it's not a big deal. the big deal is to actually build navit on an osx container :) 18:57 #navit: < jkoan> But I hate that. I also don't like the idea of a repo only for the tags of new versions... 18:59 #navit: < kazer> well for the osx/ios build it kind of makes sense i think. in that repo we would have only stuffs related to building navit on these specific platform, and no code. It avoids cluttering our sourcecode repo with build specific shenanigans 18:59 #navit: < kazer> for the tags we could use something else. Like firebase. But it means introducing a new dependency 19:06 #navit: < jkoan> My suggestion would be to delete everything related to Svn AND the sub system which needs those annoying R0000 tags. Then we can delete them and provide real versions withe the tag and release system from github. I know it is a little bit of work, but we should not have that messy old systems. And for all Apple related stuff Okay... Then we need the repo with the commands "git clone && cmake paras && make package" this is not really fancy... But … 19:06 #navit: < jkoan> …Okay... 19:08 #navit: < kazer> we can't delete the tags, as we need them for google play store 19:08 #navit: < jkoan> Probably we don't need them 19:09 #navit: < jkoan> I also know it is possible without them 19:09 #navit: < jkoan> The number behind the "r" is the build number right? 19:13 #navit: < jkoan> And that is exactly the number we use in Google play store. But it is *not* need to the number to be counted every time by 1. It is also possible to set this number to the datecode YYYYMMDDHHMM so every new build has a bigger number than before. And also this would be more flexible 19:14 #navit: < kazer> that's true, but we need more than that to be able to push 2 updates in the same day 19:15 #navit: < jkoan> Because of that I said hhmm at the end 19:15 #navit: < jkoan> For now it would be 201706152115 19:16 #navit: < jkoan> And in one minute it would be 201706152116 19:16 #navit: < kazer> oh right sorry i missed that part 19:16 #navit: < jkoan> So we could push one build per minute 19:17 #navit: < kazer> which is more than enough since it takes ~20 min to build :) 19:17 #navit: < jkoan> And that would be really smart 19:17 #navit: < kazer> ok. it works for me, but we should probably run that by jandegr before actually doing it 19:18 #navit: < jkoan> And then we could use the release /tags section where it is really for 19:18 #navit: < jkoan> Even this is also really good for Fdroid 19:18 #navit: < kazer> yep for sure 19:19 #navit: < kazer> we should track all of this in tickets for 0.5.1 :) 19:19 #navit: < jkoan> No, not 0.5.1 milestone 19:19 #navit: < jkoan> It's now administration ;) 19:20 #navit: < kazer> well it doesn't prevent us from creating a ticket :) 19:20 #navit: < jkoan> Could you please do this, my accu is really low 19:20 #navit: < kazer> sure! 19:21 #navit: < jkoan> You will also discuss this with jandegr? 19:23 #navit: < jkoan> So to get this new "system" up and running we mainly need to turn off the old sub system and modify the id for our Android packages 19:23 #navit: < kazer> yep when i'll see him. I'll also mail him the ticket so that he can chime in 19:23 #navit: < kazer> yeah it should be fairly easy. And then i can delete all of the Rxxxx tags and our release page will be just beautiful 19:23 -!- xenos1984 [~xenos1984@22-164-191-90.dyn.estpak.ee] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:25 #navit: < jkoan> That's probably the best day for our github repository 19:27 #navit: < kazer> https://trac.navit-project.org/ticket/1351 19:27 #navit: < kazer> haha yeah 19:27 #navit: < kazer> email notification worked for me. did you get it too? 19:30 #navit: < jkoan> Openid login is now broken :D 19:30 #navit: < jkoan> Error in discovery: Error fetching XRDS document: <urlopen error [Errno -2] Name or service not known> 19:30 #navit: < kazer> odd it worked for me . let me check 19:31 #navit: < kazer> nop still works for me 19:56 #navit: < kazer> afk an hour. I tried also logging into trac from a vm, no issue. Your connection maybe? 20:06 -!- xenos1984 [~xenos1984@22-164-191-90.dyn.estpak.ee] has joined #navit 22:14 -!- xenos1984 [~xenos1984@22-164-191-90.dyn.estpak.ee] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:21 -!- latouche_ [~Latouche@reverse-169.fdn.fr] has joined #navit 23:26 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: latouche 23:28 -!- Horwitz [~mich1@p200300800E14EA00022268FFFE64E7C4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 23:29 -!- jkoan [Wcj6m5ta9H@hadar.uberspace.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:29 -!- jkoan [Cko7nJuxEr@hadar.uberspace.de] has joined #navit 23:41 -!- Horwitz [~mich1@p200300800E0E0100022268FFFE64E7C4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #navit 23:41 -!- mode/#navit [+o Horwitz] by ChanServ --- Log closed Sat Jun 17 00:00:51 2017