--- Log opened Tue Jun 20 00:00:57 2017 00:13 -!- Irssi: No PONG reply from server irc.freenode.net in 301 seconds, disconnecting 00:13 -!- Irssi: Connection lost to irc.freenode.net 00:13 -!- Irssi: Removed reconnection to server irc.freenode.net port 6667 00:13 -!- Irssi: Looking up irc.freenode.net 00:13 -!- Irssi: Reconnecting to irc.freenode.net [185.30.166.38] port 6667 - use /RMRECONNS to abort 00:15 -!- Irssi: Unable to connect server irc.freenode.net port 6667 [Connection timed out] 00:20 -!- Irssi: Removed reconnection to server irc.freenode.net port 6667 00:20 -!- Irssi: Looking up irc.freenode.net 00:20 -!- Irssi: Reconnecting to irc.freenode.net [185.30.166.37] port 6667 - use /RMRECONNS to abort 00:20 -!- Irssi: Connection to irc.freenode.net established 00:20 !verne.freenode.net *** Looking up your hostname... 00:20 !verne.freenode.net *** Checking Ident 00:20 !verne.freenode.net *** Couldn't look up your hostname 00:20 !verne.freenode.net *** No Ident response 00:20 -!- Welcome to the freenode Internet Relay Chat Network NavitLogger 00:20 -!- Your host is verne.freenode.net[185.30.166.37/6667], running version ircd-seven-1.1.4 00:20 -!- This server was created Sat Jan 7 2017 at 11:53:54 EST 00:20 -!- verne.freenode.net ircd-seven-1.1.4 DOQRSZaghilopswz CFILMPQSbcefgijklmnopqrstvz bkloveqjfI 00:20 -!- CHANTYPES=# EXCEPTS INVEX CHANMODES=eIbq,k,flj,CFLMPQScgimnprstz CHANLIMIT=#:120 PREFIX=(ov)@+ MAXLIST=bqeI:100 MODES=4 NETWORK=freenode STATUSMSG=@+ CALLERID=g CASEMAPPING=rfc1459 are supported by this server 00:20 -!- CHARSET=ascii NICKLEN=16 CHANNELLEN=50 TOPICLEN=390 DEAF=D FNC TARGMAX=NAMES:1,LIST:1,KICK:1,WHOIS:1,PRIVMSG:4,NOTICE:4,ACCEPT:,MONITOR: EXTBAN=$,ajrxz CLIENTVER=3.0 ETRACE WHOX KNOCK are supported by this server 00:20 -!- SAFELIST ELIST=CTU CPRIVMSG CNOTICE are supported by this server 00:20 -!- There are 127 users and 80919 invisible on 27 servers 00:20 -!- 21 IRC Operators online 00:20 -!- 69 unknown connection(s) 00:20 -!- 59851 channels formed 00:20 -!- I have 3402 clients and 2 servers 00:20 -!- 3402 6861 Current local users 3402, max 6861 00:20 -!- 81046 97718 Current global users 81046, max 97718 00:20 -!- Highest connection count: 6863 (6861 clients) (1718151 connections received) 00:20 -!- - verne.freenode.net Message of the Day - 00:20 -!- - Welcome to verne.freenode.net in Amsterdam, NL. 00:20 -!- - Thanks to http://www.hyperfilter.com/ for sponsoring 00:20 -!- - this server! 00:20 -!- - 00:20 -!- - 00:20 -!- - VERNE, Jules (1828-1905). 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See http://wiki.navit-project.org. Please be patient if you don't get a response immediately. Please use http://navit.pastebin.com for your pastes! Channel is logged : http://irclogs.navit.ie/ Follow @NavitProject on Twitter. 00:20 -!- Topic set by KaZeR [~kazer@4.170.67.86.rev.sfr.net] [Mon May 23 17:10:04 2011] 00:20 [Users #navit] 00:20 [@ChanServ] [ ColdFyre] [ latouche ] [ NavitLogger] [ redurgam ] 00:20 [@Horwitz ] [ j_f-f ] [ Marc0__ ] [ noradtux ] [ toxx ] 00:20 [ bzed ] [ jkoan ] [ Millesimus] [ Number6_ ] [ xenos1984] 00:20 [ Celelibi] [ kazer ] [ Navit ] [ rdo ] 00:20 -!- Irssi: #navit: Total of 19 nicks [2 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 17 normal] 00:20 -!- Channel #navit created Sun Nov 26 06:47:57 2006 00:20 -!- Irssi: Join to #navit was synced in 5 secs 00:24 -!- noradtux [~noradtux@port-1827.pppoe.wtnet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 00:26 -!- noradtux [~noradtux@port-10748.pppoe.wtnet.de] has joined #navit 00:33 -!- xenos1984 [~xenos1984@22-164-191-90.dyn.estpak.ee] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 01:38 #navit: < kazer> thanks for the info Celelibi ! 04:21 -!- Celelibi [celelibi@26.63.128.77.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:25 -!- Celelibi [celelibi@66.116.134.77.rev.sfr.net] has joined #navit 06:44 -!- xenos1984 [~xenos1984@2001:bb8:2002:200:6651:6ff:fe53:a120] has joined #navit 07:10 -!- jjelen [jjelen@nat/redhat/x-opluawdlkrlquenc] has joined #navit 07:59 -!- jjelen [jjelen@nat/redhat/x-opluawdlkrlquenc] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:04 -!- Number6_ is now known as Number6 08:14 -!- jjelen [jjelen@nat/redhat/x-jxfpomqoviojbbhn] has joined #navit 09:46 -!- jjelen [jjelen@nat/redhat/x-jxfpomqoviojbbhn] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:21 #navit: < Celelibi> kazer: It could be nice if I could recompile and test by myself on my own device. I could probably make a bug report much more detailled. 10:36 -!- jjelen [jjelen@nat/redhat/x-zszvefjxakozwmnt] has joined #navit 14:38 -!- xenos1984 [~xenos1984@2001:bb8:2002:200:6651:6ff:fe53:a120] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 14:58 -!- jjelen [jjelen@nat/redhat/x-zszvefjxakozwmnt] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:10 #navit: < kazer> Celelibi: well you can. The easiest way would be to fork our repo, and build using circleci. I can help you. Otherwise it's also possible to do it on your machine, but setting up everything for android is a pain 15:14 -!- jjelen [jjelen@nat/redhat/x-xrubirkzutkesgus] has joined #navit 15:18 -!- xenos1984 [~xenos1984@22-164-191-90.dyn.estpak.ee] has joined #navit 15:19 #navit: < Celelibi> I'd probably prefer to compile it myself. 15:19 #navit: < Celelibi> But not right now, I'm at work. 15:27 #navit: < kazer> ok! 15:35 #navit: < kazer> brb 15:35 -!- kazer [~kazer@2601:643:8680:2630:eea8:6bff:fef8:449] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.1.1] 15:43 -!- kazer [~kazer@ec2-54-70-178-135.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com] has joined #navit 15:43 -!- mode/#navit [+o kazer] by ChanServ 15:54 -!- kazer [~kazer@ec2-54-70-178-135.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.4] 15:54 -!- kazer [~kazer@ec2-54-70-178-135.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com] has joined #navit 15:54 -!- mode/#navit [+o kazer] by ChanServ 16:04 -!- pa [~pa@unaffiliated/pa] has joined #navit 16:04 #navit: < pa> hi 16:04 #navit: < pa> again 16:13 -!- jjelen [jjelen@nat/redhat/x-xrubirkzutkesgus] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 16:20 #navit: < pa> kazer: so i managed 16:34 #navit: < Celelibi> I guess I'm on the right track if I download the android ndk. 16:35 #navit: < pa> Celelibi: maybe you can wait for the QtLocation plugin ;) 16:36 #navit: < Celelibi> What is it? 16:52 #navit: < pa> hopefully a way to use navit in Qt/QML 16:53 #navit: < pa> so you don't have to bother with writing java applications on android 17:01 -!- jfitie [4df99fa5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.249.159.165] has joined #navit 17:01 #navit: < jfitie> hi 17:03 #navit: < jfitie> @kazer - what's the best way to initiate a discussion about PR 224 (https://github.com/navit-gps/navit/pull/224), 225 (https://github.com/navit-gps/navit/pull/225) and 262 (https://github.com/navit-gps/navit/pull/262)? 17:04 #navit: < jfitie> * https://github.com/navit-gps/navit/pull/262 17:13 #navit: <@kazer> Celelibi: yeah downloading the sdk is the first step 17:16 #navit: <@kazer> yeah #224 makes it look really better. We have to be careful with statements about performance though, as we don't know if our users are using really old devices 17:17 #navit: <@kazer> jkoan: i merged #262. probably going to merge #224 too 17:19 #navit: < jfitie> #224: agree about performance. However for new users, the out-of-box experience is probably better with this default setting. First impressions matter :-) 17:20 #navit: <@kazer> it does yeah. But i really care about not impacting users with older devices. It's fucking annoying when some software that works well suddendly becomes unusable just because your device is 2 years old 17:21 #navit: <@kazer> i merged all 3, thank you for reminding me of them 17:30 #navit: < jfitie> Well I'm using Navit on my 5 year old Galaxy Note 2 in my Car, and it's just fine :-) Thanks for merging 17:32 #navit: < jfitie> Let me do a fix of these 2 lines - https://github.com/navit-gps/navit/blob/trunk/navit/navit_shipped.xml#L452-L453 . I've reformatted all the others as you can see, but must have missed these 2 17:39 #navit: < jfitie> https://github.com/navit-gps/navit/pull/269 18:02 #navit: < Celelibi> Where am I supposed to find the "android" program? 18:05 #navit: < Celelibi> cmake complains that it: "Could not find 'Android SDK and AVD Manager'." 18:05 -!- jfitie [4df99fa5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.249.159.165] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:09 #navit: <@kazer> Celelibi: if you have installed the ndk, my guess would be that you are missing some environment variables 18:09 #navit: < Celelibi> There's just no file named "android" on my system. 18:10 #navit: <@kazer> honestly i would advise you to think about using circleci for the build, because setting up the toolchain is a pain. In the meantime we used to have a bash script to do it, i'm looking for it 18:10 #navit: <@kazer> have you seen http://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/Android_development btw ? 18:11 #navit: <@kazer> found it : https://github.com/Todd-Werelius/Navit-Android-Build-Script/blob/master/navitBuild.sh 18:11 #navit: <@kazer> that's what i used as a base to setup our circleci build 18:17 #navit: <@kazer> jkoan: "Sorry for the commit spam :D" -> don't be as we usually squash commits when merging. So in the trunk history, it'll be one, nice commit just as if you nailed it on the first try ;) 18:19 #navit: <@kazer> jkoan: cmake/summery.txt looks like a typo (-> summary ) 18:20 #navit: <@kazer> in the CMakeLists files, why do we need to repeat the component name? 18:39 #navit: < jkoan> Yes, it's only typo. I will fix that when I have time 18:40 #navit: < jkoan> Where we repeat the component name? 18:42 #navit: < pa> btw, is navit rendering only using a webmercator projection? 18:45 #navit: <@kazer> jkoan: here's an example : https://github.com/jkoan/navit/blob/fba7ce71a1246713d126dee1f0e22721d0a49fec/navit/graphics/egl/CMakeLists.txt 18:47 #navit: <@kazer> pa: i think that it's map specific.. not sure though 18:47 #navit: < pa> kazer: you mean different.. maps? use different projections? 18:51 -!- rdo [~rdo@mail.bokomoko.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:51 #navit: < pa> hm.. 18:51 #navit: < pa> wait a sec 18:51 -!- rdo [~rdo@mail.bokomoko.de] has joined #navit 18:51 #navit: < pa> is navit not using own mapping engine? 18:52 #navit: < pa> no, it looks like it has it 18:53 #navit: < pa> ah i found it 18:53 #navit: < pa> projection_none, projection_mg, projection_garmin, projection_screen, projection_utm, projection_gk 18:53 #navit: < pa> not sure what it means tho 18:59 #navit: < jkoan> kazer: this is need to be able to specify the package, here we have unspecified, which means to that this file lands in the main navit package 18:59 #navit: < jkoan> https://github.com/jkoan/navit/blob/fba7ce71a1246713d126dee1f0e22721d0a49fec/navit/graphics/null/CMakeLists.txt 19:00 #navit: <@kazer> pa: the coordinate system can be different between different maps format. Navit has it own map format (which we call binfile) that was developped to convert OSM data into a routing-optimized format. 19:01 #navit: <@kazer> OSM made most of the other formats almost useless, but sometimes you might still want to use something different 19:01 #navit: <@kazer> jkoan: ah! thanks it makes sense now 19:04 #navit: < pa> kazer: right, i see. So in what format is Navit own format? WGS84 lat/lon ? 19:05 #navit: < pa> well anyway, not that important at this stage :) 19:09 #navit: <@kazer> pa: http://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/Binfile should give you some pointers 19:12 #navit: < pa> kazer: ah cool, thanks! btw i sent you the material i promised you :-) 19:13 #navit: < jkoan> Wait Kazer, did I understand it right that binfile is only a zip witch contains the real bins? 19:14 #navit: <@kazer> jkoan: yep. That's how we can serve only portions of the file : we just extract tiles on the fly and compress a new map on the fly too 19:15 #navit: <@kazer> jkoan: you can unzip a navit's .bin. you'll get A LOT of files :) 19:15 #navit: <@kazer> pa: cool thanks! 19:16 #navit: < jkoan> Wow! 19:16 #navit: < jkoan> This is really cool 19:17 #navit: < jkoan> Also then it is a lot easier to optimize the area predefines 19:19 #navit: <@kazer> yes, because we just need to check if a tile is within a bounding box 19:21 #navit: < jkoan> Yes, and with this technique it is also possible to have not only squads 19:24 #navit: <@kazer> squads? 22:12 -!- bzed_ [~bzed@shell.bzed.at] has joined #navit 22:15 -!- Celelibi [celelibi@66.116.134.77.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Excess Flood] 22:15 -!- bzed [~bzed@shell.bzed.at] has quit [Write error: Broken pipe] 22:15 -!- bzed_ is now known as bzed 22:16 -!- Celelibi [celelibi@66.116.134.77.rev.sfr.net] has joined #navit 22:19 -!- Celelibi [celelibi@66.116.134.77.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Excess Flood] 22:19 -!- Celelibi [celelibi@66.116.134.77.rev.sfr.net] has joined #navit 22:20 -!- Celelibi [celelibi@66.116.134.77.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Excess Flood] 22:21 -!- Celelibi [celelibi@66.116.134.77.rev.sfr.net] has joined #navit 23:24 -!- Horwitz [~mich1@p200300800E17B700022268FFFE64E7C4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 23:36 -!- Horwitz [~mich1@p200300800E0D5200022268FFFE64E7C4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #navit 23:36 -!- mode/#navit [+o Horwitz] by ChanServ --- Log closed Wed Jun 21 00:00:59 2017