--- Log opened Wed Jun 21 00:00:59 2017 00:26 -!- noradtux [~noradtux@port-10748.pppoe.wtnet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:27 -!- noradtux [~noradtux@2a02:2028:63c:3001:2521:37d9:59f5:4dc1] has joined #navit 00:28 -!- xenos1984 [~xenos1984@22-164-191-90.dyn.estpak.ee] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 00:40 #navit: < Navit> The following compiles failed: http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/android_armv5te/svn/navit-svn-7632.failed http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/src/svn/navit-svn-7632.failed http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/openmoko/svn/navit-svn-7632.failed http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/win32/svn/navit-svn-7632.failed http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/n800/svn/navit-svn-7632.failed http://download.navit-project 00:40 #navit: < Navit> it-svn-7632.failed http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/android_x86/svn/navit-svn-7632.failed http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/tomtom/svn/navit-svn-7632.failed 00:40 #navit: < Navit> See compile results history at http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/stats.html 05:12 #navit: < jkoan> Kazer I mean we can use polygons instead of square areas 05:13 -!- xenos1984 [~xenos1984@2001:bb8:2002:200:6651:6ff:fe53:a120] has joined #navit 06:39 -!- jjelen [jjelen@nat/redhat/x-mgeutrkrwllsrvqb] has joined #navit 09:10 -!- ColdFyre [~lenny@c-73-221-248-99.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 11:28 #navit: < Celelibi> Is there a way to add a favorite location by hand? 13:16 -!- noradtux [~noradtux@2a02:2028:63c:3001:2521:37d9:59f5:4dc1] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:43 -!- xenos1984 [~xenos1984@2001:bb8:2002:200:6651:6ff:fe53:a120] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 14:19 -!- noradtux [~noradtux@2a02:2028:501:8801::1] has joined #navit 14:58 -!- santtu37 [554c4f18@gateway/web/freenode/ip.85.76.79.24] has joined #navit 15:01 -!- jjelen [jjelen@nat/redhat/x-mgeutrkrwllsrvqb] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:03 #navit: < santtu37> Hi, I need some help with Navit (and buildroot). I can't get any images/icons to load in SDL mode. GTK+ works fine but I need to use SDL. Any ideas how to fix this? I can give some logs and additional info. 15:03 #navit: <@kazer> Celelibi: yes : https://sourceforge.net/p/navit/discussion/512960/thread/dde60d3a/#e076 15:03 #navit: <@kazer> hi santtu37 15:04 #navit: <@kazer> oh buildroot nice. did you write the buildroot recipe from scratch ? 15:05 #navit: < santtu37> No, I used the one from (Official?) Navit buildroot repo @ Github 15:05 #navit: < santtu37> Wait, I'll link it 15:05 #navit: < santtu37> https://github.com/navit-gps/buildroot 15:07 #navit: < santtu37> It doesn't list all the dependencies required. "depends on BR2_PACKAGE_GLIBC && BR2_PACKAGE_LIBGTK2". I think I'm missing somethings and that's why it doesn't work. 15:07 #navit: < santtu37> I have full SDL 1.2 stack with XPM support. I also checked the RAspberry Pi wiki and added everything mentioned there. 15:08 #navit: < santtu37> http://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/Raspberry_Pi 15:11 #navit: < santtu37> Here is a short log what's happening under the hood: https://pastebin.com/1NQgheDs 15:12 #navit: < santtu37> I checked that I have everything under /usr/share/navit/ and correct permission. 15:12 #navit: <@kazer> so the application works using that recipe, excepted for the images? 15:12 #navit: < santtu37> Yes, all the icons/images work in GTK+ mode. 15:13 #navit: < santtu37> But I need to use the SDL mode because I will be using touchscreen 15:13 #navit: <@kazer> interesting. that buildroot project is fairly new, and when i build it myself some .so files are missing in my image. so you've got better results than i did so far :) 15:14 #navit: <@kazer> what were your steps to build the image? 15:14 #navit: < santtu37> I also missed some libs but all of them were built but not copied to the root fs. 15:14 #navit: <@kazer> yep exactly. did you copy them manually ? 15:14 #navit: <@kazer> can you please share a link to the raspberry pi wiki you mentionned ? 15:15 #navit: < santtu37> I did "make menuconfig" and added all the stuff I wanted and needed. (A long list). Then I just did "make" and I got my sdcard.img after 40 mins. 15:15 #navit: < santtu37> http://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/Raspberry_Pi 15:16 #navit: <@kazer> thanks. could you share the .config file that should be in the root of your builroot folder ? 15:17 #navit: < santtu37> Sure, give me a moment. 15:18 #navit: < santtu37> Here: https://pastebin.com/t4BBy3fN It has a lot of extra stuff because I've been fighting this problem for hours. 15:19 #navit: <@kazer> thanks 15:21 #navit: <@kazer> so you dumped the image on your pi sdcard, and copied the missing .so manually? 15:22 #navit: < santtu37> I put the missing libs after the first build was ready then just make again and they were included in the sdcard.img. 15:22 #navit: <@kazer> interesting 15:23 #navit: <@kazer> i'm building using your config right now 15:23 #navit: < santtu37> libfib.so was one of them. It was built but not copied so I had to do it manually in order to run navit. 15:23 #navit: <@kazer> yeah, all .so actually 15:23 #navit: < santtu37> You are missing all libs? 15:24 #navit: <@kazer> i did test it yesterday, and i think that it's what i saw yeah 15:24 #navit: < santtu37> Which buildroot release were you building? 15:25 #navit: <@kazer> i was using the rpi branch of our repo 15:25 #navit: <@kazer> it's what you used too, right? 15:26 #navit: < santtu37> I used the official Builroot 2017.02.3 repo. I checked the differences and it was a bit newer. I added the same commits from the navit version to my local official repo so it should be fine. 15:27 #navit: < santtu37> https://github.com/navit-gps/buildroot/commit/c80586a5b589abca531765c813a683496e87de66 15:30 #navit: <@kazer> ah, thanks 15:31 #navit: <@kazer> ha we do have more customizations aside from that, because we used the jumpnow for as a basis for the raspberry pi settings. but maybe they aren't required anymore :) 15:33 #navit: < santtu37> I'm not sure what that does but I get no errors while building. 15:34 #navit: <@kazer> it defines a raspberry target. but maybe the changes have been imported in the official repo. Using the official repo is definitely easier to maintain, thanks for the info 15:35 #navit: <@kazer> is this a raspberry 2 or 3 ? 15:36 #navit: < santtu37> RPi3 15:37 #navit: < santtu37> Look at this thread, it's about the same problem I'm having: http://forum.navit-project.org/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=461 15:38 #navit: <@kazer> nice. i'm building right now we should be able to fix it 15:39 #navit: <@kazer> is bluetooth/wifi working on your rpi3 ? 15:40 #navit: < santtu37> I haven't tested. I'll check it now. 15:41 #navit: < santtu37> Ok, no wlan interfaces available so I think both wlan and bluetooth aren't working atm. 15:42 #navit: < santtu37> I'll check the modules now 15:43 #navit: <@kazer> ok thanks. i'd love to switch to the official repo if this works 15:45 #navit: < santtu37> Has there been Raspberry Pi support before in the official buildroot project? 15:48 #navit: <@kazer> i'm not sure. i'm quite new to this too 15:48 #navit: < santtu37> Ok, are you also running a RPi3? 15:50 #navit: <@kazer> yeah, and i have also a 2 and a zero W to test 15:53 #navit: < santtu37> Nice, I have an original RPi Model B 256MB and a RPi 3B. 15:55 #navit: <@kazer> yeah i also have the first one but i don't use it anymore :) 15:56 #navit: <@kazer> your goal is to use navit fullscreen on your pi? 15:57 #navit: < santtu37> Yeah, or at least with a super simple wm. 15:57 #navit: <@kazer> then maybe you'll be interested in the qt5 graphics driver. It allows you to run navit without X.. and with touchscreen support and egl support 15:58 #navit: < santtu37> I'm making a RPi multitool for caravan use. GPS, Wifi Hotspot, Automatic dashcam backup etc.. All controlled with a touchscreen. 15:58 #navit: <@kazer> nice! i definitely hope that you'll share pictures and keep us posted on your progress! 15:58 #navit: < santtu37> I'll be using other stuff that require(?) X so that's why I'm using it. And also the QT5 support has been stopped afaik. 15:59 #navit: < santtu37> I mean Navit doesn't support QT5 anymore 15:59 #navit: <@kazer> qt4 support has been stopped, but qt5 is going full steam :) 15:59 #navit: < santtu37> Ah, ok. I mixed up the versions :D 16:01 #navit: <@kazer> check out the qml2 preview : http://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/QML2_GUI 16:02 #navit: < santtu37> Wow, that looks amazing. 16:05 #navit: <@kazer> thanks! 16:06 #navit: <@kazer> what would require X in your project? 16:08 #navit: < santtu37> For a webcam software and a browser. Maybe those can be replaced but if someone else wants to extend the project they will have to use QT5 too. 16:09 #navit: <@kazer> the webcam software would only display the video feed from the webcam? 16:11 #navit: < santtu37> It can take pictures and video. 16:12 #navit: < santtu37> I guess I just need a camera software and that can be done with QT5. 16:13 #navit: <@kazer> http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qtmultimedia-index.html 16:13 #navit: < santtu37> Do you think I should do the whole UI with QT5 and integrate navit with it, so I have a "taskbar" where I can switch between different modes? 16:15 #navit: <@kazer> that's how i would do it personnaly yeah. because the resulting look and feel will be much, much better, instead of switching between apps 16:15 #navit: <@kazer> the good news is that i want something almost identical for my car. so you're not alone :) 16:18 -!- oh2fzo [santeri@jonne.es] has joined #navit 16:18 #navit: < santtu37> I joined with another session here. I'll continue with it. I'm now oh2fzo. 16:19 -!- santtu37 [554c4f18@gateway/web/freenode/ip.85.76.79.24] has left #navit [] 16:21 #navit: < oh2fzo> Now I can keep a log of our discussion so I won't lose everything we've talked about. 16:28 #navit: <@kazer> keeping your own logs depends on your client, if you're using the web chat i'm not sure that it can be done. but, the good news is that we have http://irclogs.navit.ie/ :) 16:30 #navit: <@kazer> oh, now you can keep, not how can you keep 16:34 #navit: < oh2fzo> I may disconnect/leave but I will come back. I messed up something with the server :P 16:35 -!- xenos1984 [~xenos1984@22-164-191-90.dyn.estpak.ee] has joined #navit 16:35 -!- oh2fzo [santeri@jonne.es] has quit [Quit: Changing server] 16:48 -!- santtu37 [554c4f18@gateway/web/freenode/ip.85.76.79.24] has joined #navit 16:48 #navit: < santtu37> Ok, I'm back. I couldn't fix my server so I'll use this for now. 16:51 -!- oh2fzo [santeri@jonne.es] has joined #navit 16:51 #navit: < oh2fzo> I did it! Ok, now I'll use this nick. 16:52 -!- santtu37 [554c4f18@gateway/web/freenode/ip.85.76.79.24] has left #navit [] 16:52 #navit: <@kazer> :) 16:54 #navit: < oh2fzo> I accidentally ran server command instead of connect so it kicked me out of all other servers :P But now everything is fine. 16:57 #navit: < oh2fzo> Has your build finished yet? 17:07 #navit: <@kazer> it has but hasn't built navit.. odd 17:09 #navit: <@kazer> stoopid me 17:14 #navit: <@kazer> i usually test using a RPi2, but the car uses a RPi3 yeah 17:15 #navit: <@kazer> eh scratch that i forgot that i scrolled back and answered an old question 17:15 #navit: <@kazer> :) 17:31 -!- pini [~pini@bou-fi.pustule.org] has joined #navit 17:36 -!- pini [~pini@bou-fi.pustule.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:58 #navit: < jkoan> Kazer could you say something about the naming in the binfile? 18:01 #navit: <@kazer> jkoan: sure. what do you want to know ? 18:01 #navit: <@kazer> is your question about abbcdd ? 18:08 #navit: < jkoan> Yes exactly 18:08 #navit: < jkoan> And if i see it right, most of the files are empty 18:16 #navit: <@kazer> http://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/Binfile#Dividing_the_world_into_tiles should explain it 18:16 #navit: <@kazer> empty files are either ocean, or tiles that are outside of the bounding box you requested 18:19 #navit: < jkoan> Okay, is each file needed or may it be missing? 18:20 #navit: < jkoan> So my question is if we must have the empty files 18:21 #navit: < jkoan> And another question is if this file are only text files or real binary or so 18:23 -!- noradtux [~noradtux@2a02:2028:501:8801::1] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:24 -!- j_f-f [~quassel@rs-6.jff-webhosting.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:27 -!- j_f-f [~quassel@rs-6.jff-webhosting.net] has joined #navit 18:28 -!- noradtux [~noradtux@port-9305.pppoe.wtnet.de] has joined #navit 18:28 #navit: < jkoan> But if the file name is indirektly shows the coordinates wo could rewrite the map download thing even better than I thought 18:29 #navit: < jkoan> Aso than we could have real open source map server 18:31 #navit: <@kazer> i like where this is going jkoan :) 18:31 #navit: <@kazer> files are needed if i recall correctly. But it's ok if they are empty, and compressing an empty file has no impact on the archive size 18:32 #navit: <@kazer> the content is binary yeah. It's basically a dump of one of the struct {}, which should be defined in tile.h or something like that 18:32 #navit: < jkoan> Yes, I know that empty files have no big impact on the zip, but it's for understanding 18:32 #navit: <@kazer> sure 18:33 #navit: <@kazer> we can compute the coordinates of a tile using its name, and we can compute a tile name from a given set of coordinates 18:33 #navit: < jkoan> Hm, binary sounds not so nice :D 18:33 #navit: < jkoan> Also only for understanding 18:33 #navit: <@kazer> it's much more efficient. we just load the content of the tile and we can directly map into memory 18:34 #navit: < jkoan> Yes, I know that it is better ;) but not for understanding in this moment 18:35 #navit: < jkoan> And what happens when loading two bin files? Which title is used if some areas are overlapping? 18:35 #navit: <@kazer> ah! check this : https://github.com/navit-gps/navit/blob/trunk/navit/map/binfile/binfile.c#L64 18:35 #navit: <@kazer> not title, tile :) 18:36 #navit: < jkoan> Sorry, only on handy in tram, so it was auto correction 18:37 #navit: <@kazer> i believe (but we would have to check) that an item can start in one tile and end in another one 18:37 #navit: < jkoan> Yes, but this was not the question 18:37 #navit: <@kazer> oh right 18:38 #navit: <@kazer> two overlapping items would map to the same memory address. so it shouldn't be a problem 18:38 #navit: <@kazer> ( int *start for example ) 18:38 #navit: <@kazer> if you are interested in helping build a new, open map server, then i have a few pointers for you 18:39 #navit: <@kazer> this would be awesome, by the way 18:39 #navit: < jkoan> But what if the data in those both are different? 18:39 #navit: < jkoan> What pointers? 18:39 #navit: <@kazer> then it means that we would have a bug in maptool :) 18:39 #navit: <@kazer> regarding map server : there's 3 things needed : 18:40 #navit: <@kazer> - provide an api endpoint to serve content via http (a webserver) 18:40 #navit: <@kazer> - ability to extract content from a zipfile on the fly (it's simpler than it sounds) if it matches a bounding box 18:40 #navit: <@kazer> - a smart way to updated the world map. i'm thinking p2p 18:40 #navit: <@kazer> that's it 18:41 #navit: <@kazer> it shouldn't be too hard to build with a modern language like Go for example 18:42 #navit: < jkoan> Wait, why the map server must unpack a zip? I thought it must pack it instead of unpack 18:43 #navit: <@kazer> the map processing needs to pack. the map server needs to unpack the world map on the file to serve only the area we requested. Storing the world unzipped would takes hundreds of GB and hundred of thousands of file. Reading these files directly from a flat filesystem is less efficient than reading it from the zipfile 18:45 #navit: <@kazer> here's a very simple proof of concept i wrote when poking with these ideas : https://github.com/pgrandin/map_updater 18:45 #navit: <@kazer> it allows one to update a map inplace with newer content without redownloading the whole file 18:45 #navit: < jkoan> But would be to store everything in a database? :D than we could also use more than one background server 18:45 #navit: <@kazer> we could but then size becomes an issue again 18:46 #navit: <@kazer> postgres has some nice geo capabilities for example 18:47 #navit: < jkoan> Hm 18:47 #navit: < jkoan> I will think about it 18:47 #navit: <@kazer> great. ideas and contributions are definitely welcome :) 18:47 #navit: < jkoan> Could you provide me the old mapserver scripts? :X 18:48 #navit: < jkoan> And the other question would be who has written it?! 18:48 #navit: <@kazer> unfortunately no. They have been written by cp15 and they don't have a clear license 18:49 #navit: <@kazer> i do have access to them if we need to fix things, but i can't publish them 18:49 #navit: < jkoan> :( not so nice :X 18:50 #navit: <@kazer> it's okay, it's an opportunity for us to revisit how it has been done and improve it :) 18:51 #navit: <@kazer> oh2fzo: when manually copying the .so files, where did you put them ? 18:52 #navit: < jkoan> But if we rewrite it I would suggest that we ad the ability to continue a download (if this is even not possible right now). And also select multiple areas and download it as one file 18:52 #navit: <@kazer> multiple areas in one file might be a bit tricky. We would have to check across multiple bounding boxes. But it's easy to use multiple binfiles in one mapset, which gives the same result 18:53 #navit: <@kazer> regarding resuming download, it should work already today 18:53 #navit: < jkoan> Hm okay than Firefox on Android don't like it 18:55 #navit: <@kazer> yeah it works for me : 18:55 #navit: <@kazer> HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 206 Partial Content 18:55 #navit: <@kazer> Length: 586923326 (560M), 435128307 (415M) remaining 18:56 #navit: <@kazer> california.bin 27%[+++ ] 151.20M 1.74MB/s 18:56 #navit: <@kazer> it resumed at 27% where i stopped it 18:56 #navit: <@kazer> (wget -c ) 18:56 #navit: < jkoan> Okay :D then the problem was the Firefox or the internet (crap Hotspot) 18:56 #navit: <@kazer> yep maybe :) 18:57 #navit: < jkoan> Hm okay, I will be afk for some time and after that I will do some future work on the cmake thing 18:57 #navit: <@kazer> cool ttyl 18:58 #navit: < oh2fzo> kazer: I copied them to output/target/usr/lib/ 18:58 #navit: < jkoan> Have you looked at the web hook thing (for the download page)? 18:58 #navit: <@kazer> thanks oh2fzo 18:58 #navit: <@kazer> jkoan: not yet. but it should be quite easy. i can guide you if you want to do it 18:59 #navit: <@kazer> oh2fzo: directly in the folder or did you replicate the folder hierarchy ? 18:59 #navit: < oh2fzo> kazer: directly 19:01 #navit: <@kazer> ok thanks 19:13 #navit: <@kazer> mmm the image i built does not boot on my pi2 or the pi zero W 19:13 #navit: <@kazer> probably wrong processor settings 19:14 #navit: < oh2fzo> kazer: Make sure you are using the correct file. Sometimes it doesn't pick up my config either. 19:14 #navit: <@kazer> yeah thanks i'll double check 19:14 #navit: < oh2fzo> kazer: Check Target options > Target Arch: ARM 19:14 #navit: < oh2fzo> from make menuconfig 19:16 #navit: < oh2fzo> + my .config is based on RPi3 which does not boot on other RPi's. So you have to edit some lines to fit your RPi2. 19:17 #navit: < oh2fzo> kazer: change your BR2_DEFCONFIG 19:17 #navit: < oh2fzo> basically search for "raspberrypi" and fix all lines 19:21 #navit: <@kazer> thanks 19:26 #navit: < oh2fzo> If we find out how to fix this, I'll probably send the fixes to navit project and improve the package so it has all the dependencies. 19:26 #navit: <@kazer> looks like BR2_DEFCONFIG should be the only one that matters, for BR2_ROOTFS_POST_BUILD_SCRIPT all raspberry boards are symlinked to the same script 19:26 #navit: <@kazer> oh2fzo: i am confident that we are going to fix it :) i'm also in the #buildroot channel, i think someone will help us today 19:27 #navit: <@kazer> rebuilding for rpi2, afk a moment 19:34 #navit: < oh2fzo> kazer: How long does it take to build on your computer? 19:35 -!- zintor [5b5902d7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.89.2.215] has joined #navit 19:35 #navit: < zintor> hi @all 19:35 #navit: < zintor> just a short hop in 19:36 #navit: < zintor> @jandegr: I used heightlines.bin as suggested, but no success 19:39 #navit: <@kazer> oh2fzo: about 40 min i think. i've ran it using "time" so we'll know for sure 19:39 #navit: <@kazer> hey zintor 19:39 #navit: <@kazer> how was Marseille ? 19:40 #navit: < zintor> see http://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/User:Zintor#Creating_heightlines_with_srtm2osm_and_maptool 19:41 #navit: < zintor> it was fine! 19:41 #navit: < zintor> hot 19:41 #navit: < zintor> but in Germany it is also hot ;) 19:41 #navit: <@kazer> i'll try to give a shot at the heightlines using your notes, see if i can understand what's wrong 19:41 #navit: <@kazer> afk 1h 19:49 -!- zintor [5b5902d7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.89.2.215] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:54 -!- zintor [5b5902d7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.89.2.215] has joined #navit 19:55 #navit: < zintor> re 19:55 #navit: < jkoan> hi zintor 19:55 #navit: < zintor> hi jkoan 20:00 #navit: < jkoan> i have two interesting devices in front of me: one tomtom one (this should be easy to run android on) and then one navigon 70/71 easy. It looks like the navigon thing runs win ce as arm build. so probably we could also run navit on it 20:01 #navit: < zintor> I have viamichelin x950 here...had no time to install Navit on it, 20:01 #navit: < zintor> OS is WinCe 4.2 20:02 #navit: < zintor> see http://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/WinCE 20:02 #navit: < jkoan> right now i have no idea if win ce has some debuging features 20:03 #navit: * zintor has also no idea 20:07 #navit: < jkoan> wuhu, i found old navit maps from 2013 20:07 #navit: < jkoan> ... 20:08 #navit: < zintor> kazer: if I could do some debugging regarding heigthlines, please let me know how to do. Just write here, edit my wiki user page or discussing page. So I could append to the wiki page 20:08 #navit: < zintor> well...2013 is not too old ;) 20:11 #navit: < jkoan> probably the last week is to old :O 20:14 #navit: < zintor> ok...have to go 20:14 #navit: < zintor> cya all 20:14 #navit: < jkoan> bey 20:15 -!- zintor [5b5902d7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.89.2.215] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:25 #navit: <@kazer> oh2fzo: so 39 min 20:26 #navit: <@kazer> is the build time here. Need to investigate an issue with a missing dtb file though 20:27 #navit: < jkoan> kazer: are the wince build are arm based? 20:29 #navit: < oh2fzo> kazer: ok, did you try to boot it yet? Or can't you do that without the dtb file? 20:35 #navit: < jkoan> also one interesting thing of the navigon device are the files SDL.dll and Png.dll ;) 20:37 #navit: <@kazer> jkoan: yep 20:38 #navit: < jkoan> do you know how to debug winwe devices properly? :D 20:42 #navit: <@kazer> oh2fzo: as a workaround cp ./output/build/rpi-firmware-7f8ac8dac0b80291cbf5e56580139034a0a42070/boot/bcm2709-rpi-2-b.dtb /mnt/buildroot/buildroot-2017.02.3/output/images/bcm2709-rpi-2-b.dtb seems to work.. flashing the image 20:42 #navit: <@kazer> jkoan: haven't touched wince devices in many years :) 20:43 #navit: < jkoan> hm okay. 20:43 -!- jandegr [5bb4b434@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.180.180.52] has joined #navit 20:43 #navit: < jkoan> i have some work done right now. the navit.exe is able to run, but it said it cant find navit.xml (but its in the same directory) 20:44 #navit: < oh2fzo> kazer: ok, nice. I'll be away for about 30 mins. 20:47 #navit: <@kazer> oh2fzo: boots on a rpi2, but not the zeroW 20:48 #navit: < jandegr> zintor around ? 20:48 #navit: < jandegr> hmm already left 20:54 #navit: <@kazer> oh2fzo: are you using a usb keyboard to log into your image? mine is detected but does not work 20:55 #navit: < jandegr> kazer a time ago I built som CA heightlines map, did you ever get to testing it ? 20:57 #navit: <@kazer> jandegr: i did, and i shared a screenshot in trac or the forum 20:58 #navit: < jandegr> those in the forum are from my tablet, even if it is demoed with the CA map :) 21:01 #navit: <@kazer> oh really? shoot. I thought it was from my nexus 5. oh you're right it's in NL :) 21:01 #navit: <@kazer> damn i'm getting old 21:02 #navit: < jandegr> we started taking all credit now ? 21:03 #navit: < jandegr> you still have that map? 21:03 #navit: <@kazer> looking for it in my backups as we speak 21:04 #navit: <@kazer> i'm pretty sure i should have a screenshot too 21:04 #navit: <@kazer> while we wait : any blocking concerns regarding switching to a new tag format for google play? 21:07 #navit: < jandegr> zintor if it still complains about no map found, somebody will have to test your map on linux to view the log output 21:07 #navit: < jandegr> as I understand it shows up on the screen, saw the screenshot in the forum 21:07 #navit: < jandegr> are you sure the lines are tagged ?? 21:08 #navit: < jandegr> look at my screenshots and notice lines with different thickness 21:09 #navit: < jandegr> and zooming in (not posted) they have labels with the actual height 21:09 #navit: < jandegr> see the cat and step option of srtm2osm 21:10 #navit: < jandegr> otherwise just lines without values I suppose 21:10 #navit: < oh2fzo> kazer: I had a similar problem but I just thought the battery died. Try another keyboard. 21:11 #navit: <@kazer> i'm typing with that very same keyboard right now :) 21:12 #navit: < oh2fzo> Is it a basic USB keyboard or some fancy RGB one? 21:12 #navit: < oh2fzo> My Corsair K70 doesn't work very well with most Linux distros. 21:13 #navit: <@kazer> logitech k520, usually works on my pi. Eh, an older one works 21:13 #navit: <@kazer> my logitech is working with the image i built from our own repo. something to investigate later 21:13 #navit: < jkoan> kazer: are you want to help me to compile navit (current git) for arm wince? 21:13 #navit: < oh2fzo> Maybe there is a bios switch on your K520? My K70 has a bios switch which makes it work on Linux. 21:16 #navit: <@kazer> oh2fzo: don't worry i'll find what's going on, not urgent for now as the other one is working 21:17 #navit: < jandegr> jkoan the old server seems to still succed in compiling for wince with cmake 21:17 #navit: < jandegr> ** succeed 21:17 #navit: < jkoan> which link? 21:18 #navit: < jandegr> I have used those logs a lot in the past to 'unbreak' stuff 21:18 #navit: <@kazer> jkoan: have you seen http://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/WinCE_development ? 21:18 #navit: < jandegr> http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/wince/svn/navit-svn-7632.ok 21:19 #navit: < jkoan> kazer: yes, but i dont get a working arm-wince-mingw32ce-g++ compiler 21:19 #navit: < jkoan> jandegr: thx 21:19 #navit: < jandegr> and it is already with cmake, so a few hours and you should get it working :) 21:19 #navit: < jkoan> do you have also the download file? :D 21:20 #navit: < jandegr> moment 21:20 #navit: < jandegr> from there you can get all : http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/stats.html 21:21 #navit: < jandegr> if you shorten it a bit :) http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/ 21:21 #navit: < jkoan> but thers no exe file? :D 21:23 #navit: < jandegr> unzip em jkoan ? 21:23 #navit: < jandegr> http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/wince_cmake/svn/ 21:25 #navit: < jandegr> kazer can you help us out with the builds from the old server ? 21:25 #navit: < jandegr> log says ok, but where did they go ??? 21:26 #navit: < jkoan> probably no nowhere 21:26 #navit: < jandegr> kazer can we get this going on circleci ???? 21:26 #navit: < jandegr> http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/wince_cmake/svn/navit-svn-7632.ok 21:27 #navit: < jkoan> i will tkake a look on cmake build from arm wince on circleci, but not this week 21:28 #navit: < jandegr> is this ok for arm ??? http://download.navit-project.org/navit/wince/svn/ 21:29 #navit: < jkoan> probably... i will try 21:29 #navit: <@kazer> jandegr: sure 21:29 #navit: <@kazer> http://download.navit-project.org/navit/wince/svn/ 21:30 #navit: < jandegr> not that there is still a big market for it, but why lose somthing if it is still working ??? 21:30 #navit: <@kazer> ah just saw that you posted the link too 21:30 #navit: <@kazer> jandegr: exactly 21:30 #navit: < jandegr> kazer ........ 21:30 #navit: <@kazer> jandegr: you dodged my question about google play tags btw :) 21:30 #navit: < jkoan> any idea why navit cant find the navit.xml (even if it is in the same directory) 21:31 #navit: < jandegr> to what build or platform does this relate jkoan ? 21:31 #navit: < jkoan> the last info was from http://download.navit-project.org/navit/wince/navit-current.zip 21:31 #navit: < jkoan> but test current right now 21:33 #navit: < jandegr> ooops , that current thing seems tho have frozen in 2010 ... 21:33 #navit: < jkoan> why? :D 21:33 #navit: < jkoan> svn? :D 21:33 #navit: < jandegr> get today's build from the dir I posted 21:33 #navit: <@kazer> we switched from svn to git in ~2014 iirc 21:33 #navit: <@kazer> so something else broke inbetween :) 21:34 #navit: < jkoan> thy i try right now eith the build from today 21:35 #navit: < jandegr> good luck with it folks 21:35 -!- jandegr [5bb4b434@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.180.180.52] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:24 #navit: < jkoan> kazer, jandegr and oh2fzo: i got it running: navit on old crappy navigon 70/71 22:31 #navit: < jkoan> http://static.jkoan.de/VID-20170622-WA0001.mp4 22:52 #navit: <@kazer> jkoan: nice :) 22:52 #navit: <@kazer> showing up the main menu will be snappier if you use a lower zoom level 22:52 #navit: <@kazer> jkoan: did you use a package from our old build server? 22:53 #navit: < jkoan> yes, the curent one for wince, without any modifications 22:53 #navit: < jkoan> what you mean with "lower"? :D 22:55 #navit: < jkoan> this one: http://download.navit-project.org/navit/wince/svn/navit-svn-7632.zip 22:55 -!- xenos1984 [~xenos1984@22-164-191-90.dyn.estpak.ee] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:03 #navit: <@kazer> jkoan: closer to the ground, so less items are refreshed and drawn 23:03 #navit: < jkoan> Okay (y) 23:03 #navit: < jkoan> But not today 23:04 #navit: < jkoan> It was quit easy BTW after found a autoexec script... 23:05 #navit: < jkoan> Also the real Navigon software is started by this script... 23:20 #navit: <@kazer> cool! if we can get a good looking video i'll post it on the social networks 23:22 -!- Horwitz [~mich1@p200300800E0D5200022268FFFE64E7C4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 23:35 -!- Horwitz [~mich1@p200300800E0AD400022268FFFE64E7C4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #navit 23:35 -!- mode/#navit [+o Horwitz] by ChanServ --- Log closed Thu Jun 22 00:00:00 2017