--- Log opened Thu Oct 12 00:00:27 2017
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00:38 #navit: < Navit> The following compiles failed: http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/android_armv5te/svn/navit-svn-.failed http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/osm-exp/svn/navit-svn-.failed http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/src/svn/navit-svn-.failed http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/openmoko/svn/navit-svn-.failed http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/win32/svn/navit-svn-.failed http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/n
00:38 #navit: < Navit> oad.navit-project.org/logs/navit/android_armv4t/svn/navit-svn-.failed http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/android_x86/svn/navit-svn-.failed http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/tomtom/svn/navit-svn-.failed
00:38 #navit: < Navit> See compile results history at http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/stats.html
02:42 -kline(~kline@freenode/staff/enucs.kline)- [Global Notice] Users that are running version 7.0.5 of Textual or earlier are advised to update to version 7.0.6 immediately, due to a vulnerability that is presently being exploited on freenode. Please take a moment to read: https://help.codeux.com/textual/Security-Advisory-October-2017-1.kb
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03:53 #navit: < jkoan> KaZeR: thx for the feedback :)
04:16 #navit: <@KaZeR> jkoan: np!
04:45 #navit: < jkoan> KaZeR: did you read anything about rust already (the new programming language from Mozilla)
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06:01 #navit: < jkoan> Kazer again to doxygen, is the menu structure okay? Then I would add more soon
06:35 #navit: < youte> jkoan if my TomTom have not a sdcard, its possible to install navit?
06:35 #navit: < jkoan> I think yes. It should have flash
06:36 #navit: < jkoan> Only connect over USB and install tomtom plugin
06:42 #navit: < youte> i have a port usb
06:43 #navit: < youte> challenge accepted xD
07:15 #navit: < jkoan> KaZeR: we spoke about the distortion feature in gtk gui. But at least in my Tests it does not work. If I calculate a route and add a road block nothing happens, even if I change the order and set the block first and then calculate the route it's routing through the block 
07:16 #navit: < jkoan> So probably we must fix this
07:18 #navit: < jkoan> youte: if you need help, I can probably help after a find of all files in the device root
09:44 #navit: < youte> i will try pm
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16:52 #navit: <@KaZeR> hi there
16:53 #navit: < jkoan> hi KaZeR
16:53 #navit: <@KaZeR> jkoan: about rust, i looked briefly into it when it was announced, but never really worked with it. I have a friend who did though.
16:54 #navit: <@KaZeR> about doxygen : i think that it's ok, and it's easy to update anyway. so let's make changes, and revisit when we need to. That's better than getting stuck because we are trying to overthink it or because we're afraid to do it wrong
16:54 #navit: <@KaZeR> if we do it wrong, we'll just fix it
16:54 #navit: < jkoan> okay ^^ 
16:55 #navit: <@KaZeR> jkoan: i'm surprised about the distortion. i'll have a look
16:55 #navit: < jkoan> oh okay, big thx
16:57 #navit: < jkoan> KaZeR: but the problem still exists with the functions return structs are not shown
16:57 #navit: <@KaZeR> for... the traffic distortion?
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16:59 #navit: < jkoan> nopt, for all functions, like: static int vehicle_file_sat_attr_get(void *priv_data, enum attr_type type, struct attr *attr)
17:04 #navit: <@KaZeR> i'm not sure i'm aware of this
17:12 #navit: <@KaZeR> afk 90 min
17:12 #navit: < jkoan> see u
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17:23 #navit: < jkoan> hi ilovekiruna
17:34 #navit: < youte> hi joan
17:34 #navit: < youte> i send you a pm
17:34 #navit: < youte> jkoan, 
17:43 #navit: < jkoan> youte: you have a first answer ;)
17:49 #navit: < ilovekiruna> hi youte, hi youte
17:51 #navit: < youte> hi ilovekiruna 
17:55 #navit: < jkoan> and whats going on ilovekiruna and youte?
18:09 #navit: < youte> i learn git lol
18:09 #navit: < ilovekiruna> last days, didnt have so much time, so not so much progress with appium
19:06 #navit: < ilovekiruna> has anyone of you experience with xenserver?
19:24 #navit: <@KaZeR> ilovekiruna: used it in the past. switched to qemu, never looked back :)
19:24 #navit: <@KaZeR> (i know that they are slightly different)
20:53 #navit: < ilovekiruna> KaZeR: u mean xen or xenserver?
21:16 #navit: <@KaZeR> ilovekiruna: isn't it just a different implementation of the same thing?
21:17 #navit: < ilovekiruna> KaZeR: not really
21:17 #navit: < ilovekiruna> xen is the hypervisor
21:17 #navit: < ilovekiruna> xenserver is a complete distribution including dom0 published as FOSS by Citrix
21:17 #navit: < ilovekiruna> and they sell support for it
21:18 #navit: < ilovekiruna> dom0 is there based on CentOS
21:18 #navit: < ilovekiruna> plus they have created a tool for remote administration called Xencenter
21:20 #navit: < ilovekiruna> also the concept of qemu and xen is quite different actually
21:21 #navit: < ilovekiruna> only if qemu runs on top of KVM, one could compare it
21:21 #navit: < ilovekiruna> for x86 machiens
21:22 #navit: < ilovekiruna> otherwise qemu emulates a complete system, while runs itself bare metal on the hardware
21:22 #navit: < ilovekiruna> maybe u can correct me if i am wrong
21:31 #navit: <@KaZeR> nop, that's exactly what i implied when i said that i knew they were different
21:31 #navit: <@KaZeR> today if i need something lightweight i use docker, and if i need a full blown emulation (like different cpu or different os) i use qemu
21:31 #navit: < ilovekiruna> ok, didnt understand it that way
21:31 #navit: < ilovekiruna> no prob
21:32 #navit: < ilovekiruna> docker is in that machine no use-case for me
21:32 #navit: < ilovekiruna> I need to run both windows and linux in parallel
21:32 #navit: <@KaZeR> yeah docker won't fit :)
21:33 #navit: <@KaZeR> qemu works great for that though. I use it for solidworks for example. Only missing some opengl stuffs
21:33 #navit: < ilovekiruna> i also need on one hand gpu computing
21:33 #navit: < ilovekiruna> and need to balance two CPUs with each 14 physical cores
21:37 #navit: < ilovekiruna> plus this is for my professional work
21:38 #navit: < ilovekiruna> cant use too exotic solutions
21:38 #navit: < ilovekiruna> even xenserver is already considered that
21:46 #navit: <@KaZeR> i'm using docker with cuda. works quite well
21:46 #navit: < ilovekiruna> on gentoo?
21:47 #navit: <@KaZeR> not for this particular project. the restriction is that the drivers on the host must match exactly the drivers in the container
21:47 #navit: <@KaZeR> it would definitely work on gentoo if you use gentoo on the container and the host
21:48 #navit: < ilovekiruna> honestly for the container i will need for sure centos again
21:48 #navit: < ilovekiruna> because of other software requirements
21:48 #navit: <@KaZeR> closed source binary>
21:48 #navit: <@KaZeR> ?
21:48 #navit: < ilovekiruna> yes
21:48 #navit: <@KaZeR> ok
21:48 #navit: < ilovekiruna> i work with FEM and CFD simulations
21:51 #navit: <@KaZeR> oh wow that's hardcore
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23:18 #navit: < pmckinley> hey @KaZeR
23:18 #navit: < pmckinley> :)
23:26 #navit: <@KaZeR> hey pmckinley 
23:27 #navit: < pmckinley> hello!
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