--- Log opened Wed Nov 15 00:00:28 2017 00:10 -!- youte [~youte@AStrasbourg-551-1-157-75.w86-235.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [] 00:17 -!- Horwitz [~mich1@2003:80:e59:d300:222:68ff:fe64:e7c4] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:22 -!- xenos1984 [~xenos1984@22-164-191-90.dyn.estpak.ee] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 00:30 -!- Horwitz [~mich1@p200300800E516700022268FFFE64E7C4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #navit 00:30 -!- mode/#navit [+o Horwitz] by ChanServ 00:39 #navit: < Navit> The following compiles failed: http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/android_armv5te/svn/navit-svn-.failed http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/osm-exp/svn/navit-svn-.failed http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/src/svn/navit-svn-.failed http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/openmoko/svn/navit-svn-.failed http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/win32/svn/navit-svn-.failed http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/n 00:39 #navit: < Navit> oad.navit-project.org/logs/navit/android_armv4t/svn/navit-svn-.failed http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/android_x86/svn/navit-svn-.failed http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/tomtom/svn/navit-svn-.failed 00:39 #navit: < Navit> See compile results history at http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/stats.html 01:11 -!- gegolo [~gegolo@pool-108-26-192-48.bstnma.fios.verizon.net] has joined #navit 01:11 #navit: < gegolo> can someone help me? 01:11 #navit: < gegolo> I'm looking for maptool.exe 01:11 #navit: < gegolo> I can't seem to find it anywhere 01:12 #navit: < gegolo> Horwitz, you there? 01:16 #navit: < gegolo> ColdFyre_, 01:20 #navit: < gegolo> Number6, 01:21 #navit: < gegolo> j_f-f, 01:24 -!- gegolo [~gegolo@pool-108-26-192-48.bstnma.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:24 -!- j_f-f [~quassel@rs-7.jff-webhosting.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 01:31 -!- j_f-f [~quassel@rs-7.jff-webhosting.net] has joined #navit 03:47 -!- noradtux [~noradtux@port-1363.pppoe.wtnet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:48 -!- noradtux [~noradtux@2a02:2028:840:1501:ec4:7aff:fe33:3dc1] has joined #navit 05:08 -!- xenos1984 [~xenos1984@22-164-191-90.dyn.estpak.ee] has joined #navit 06:28 -!- youte [~youte@AStrasbourg-551-1-157-75.w86-235.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #navit 07:18 -!- youte [~youte@AStrasbourg-551-1-157-75.w86-235.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:18 -!- youte [~youte@AStrasbourg-551-1-157-75.w86-235.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #navit 07:29 -!- naggety [~naggety@246.red-2-141-4.dynamicip.rima-tde.net] has joined #navit 08:33 -!- xenos1984 [~xenos1984@22-164-191-90.dyn.estpak.ee] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 08:53 -!- youte [~youte@AStrasbourg-551-1-157-75.w86-235.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:00 -!- youte [~youte@AStrasbourg-551-1-157-75.w86-235.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #navit 10:25 #navit: < naggety> kazer, in my buildroot image, if I don't remove "-DSVG2PNG=FALSE" from the makefile I have no icons at all. Neither I have any image in the menu of internal gui. I'm using GTK graphics. 10:30 #navit: < jkoan> naggety: i had the same experience with android (i tryed to switch all icons to svg to save space) 10:34 #navit: < naggety> hi jkoan 10:34 #navit: < naggety> And did you success? 10:34 #navit: < jkoan> hi naggety 10:34 #navit: < jkoan> no i didn't 10:35 #navit: < naggety> I guess that it may work with QT but not with GTK 10:35 #navit: < jkoan> probably KaZeR has a magic trick to get this working 10:37 #navit: < jkoan> qt would be better in the future but take whatever fits your needs ;) if i have some time (probably in the next years ) i will update gtk because i use gnome and like the style 10:38 #navit: < naggety> I have to try again because I just did a very short test, but I think that some OSD elements doesn't work with QT graphics right now 10:39 #navit: < naggety> I had always used GNOME too, but lately I like KDE style and Plasma desktop 10:40 #navit: < naggety> And specially I don't like GNOME icons at all 10:43 #navit: < jkoan> i dont think that icon sets are the problem ;) 10:45 #navit: < naggety> Not a problem, just ugly ;) 10:50 #navit: < jkoan> then change it :P 12:58 -!- xenos1984 [~xenos1984@2001:bb8:2002:200:6651:6ff:fe53:a120] has joined #navit 14:22 -!- naggety [~naggety@246.red-2-141-4.dynamicip.rima-tde.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 14:54 -!- naggety [~naggety@148.red-2-141-93.dynamicip.rima-tde.net] has joined #navit 15:27 -!- MarcR [~marc@p5DD93764.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #navit 15:31 #navit: < MarcR> Hi Guys! 15:31 #navit: < jkoan> hi MarcR 15:31 #navit: < MarcR> hi jkoan 15:37 -!- xenos1984 [~xenos1984@2001:bb8:2002:200:6651:6ff:fe53:a120] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 15:43 -!- naggety [~naggety@148.red-2-141-93.dynamicip.rima-tde.net] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 15:57 -!- xenos1984 [~xenos1984@22-164-191-90.dyn.estpak.ee] has joined #navit 17:04 #navit: <@KaZeR> hi there 17:06 #navit: <@KaZeR> naggety : i'll check the svg2png in buildroot. although i think that the issue shouldn't be buildroot specific 17:12 #navit: < MarcR> hi KaZeR 17:50 #navit: <@KaZeR> 'sup MarcR ? 17:52 #navit: < MarcR> trying to get my qt ui to work, but I don't get it atm. I just want to click a button called navi and navit should open - or open in the application window. I found the embedding page in the wiki, but my Qt programming skills are to low. :'-( 17:53 #navit: < MarcR> I should start with a "hello world" tutorial :-P 18:12 #navit: <@KaZeR> what's in your own application that it not in navit? 18:17 #navit: < MarcR> KaZeR: hehe :-D 18:19 #navit: < MarcR> As I say before, I', trying to get a Rspi Car PC together. with Navi, Radio, Fuel Log, Dashcam recording. and Speakerphone. 18:21 #navit: < MarcR> If I could integrate it in navit, with gui buttons. that would be cool, better to have in in one program then in 5 or so 18:24 #navit: <@KaZeR> oh right. yeah, having it in one program makes for a much, much better user experience 18:24 #navit: <@KaZeR> also, using EGL on the pi makes it super fast to boot, and you don't see X loading and this kind of stuffs, it looks way more 'pro' 18:24 #navit: < MarcR> Ok 18:24 #navit: <@KaZeR> do you know what kind of can bus there's in your car? 18:26 #navit: < MarcR> I think it is OBD I 18:29 #navit: <@KaZeR> ok. in my car, i was able to figure out a good chunk of the protocol used (sae-j1850), so i can do things like change the layout when the headlights turn on, control playback from the steering wheel, see how much gas there's left in the tank, things like that 18:29 #navit: < MarcR> sweet. 18:30 #navit: < MarcR> I would be more as happy if I can get my little project together. more features can come later :) 18:33 #navit: <@KaZeR> i was mentionning that because of your fuel log feature :) 18:34 #navit: <@KaZeR> so, how can i help you with the QT part? 18:38 #navit: < MarcR> KaZeR: I have to learn QT more. but you could help me with a navit "problem" that I maybe have. 18:39 #navit: < MarcR> If I'm setting a route, and want to get to the house number 1, navit didn't show it. it shows always 10 and above numbers 18:50 -!- frank [~frank@134.97.168.107] has joined #navit 18:51 #navit: < frank> Hi all 18:51 #navit: < MarcR> hi frank 18:56 #navit: < frank> is there a way to get a navit 0.5.1 version from before the build problems e.g. from September or smth like that? 18:58 #navit: <@KaZeR> MarcR: probably an issue with the OSM data. Can you check on the openstreetmap website if there's more data for that area? 18:58 #navit: <@KaZeR> frank: yep 19:00 #navit: < MarcR> KaZeR: oh yeah, now that you say it, there was a checksum missmatch with my mapfile. can you remember? I will download a new mapfile tomorrow. 19:00 #navit: <@KaZeR> frank: https://3773-30791823-gh.circle-artifacts.com/0/root/project/android-arm/navit/android/bin/navit-2b6c039494b54c4ef88f69e2b89388a1050912e3-arm-debug.apk is probably the last successful build 19:01 #navit: <@KaZeR> MarcR: a checksum mismatch should prevent navit from using the map but should not affect something as specific as the house number search. but it's worth checking 19:01 #navit: <@KaZeR> MarcR: can you share the exact address that you were trying to find? 19:02 #navit: < frank> KaZeR: Thank you! 19:03 #navit: < frank> Did you find out what the Error caused? 19:03 #navit: < MarcR> KaZeR: try / Germany / Muenster / Hiltrup / Marktallee / 1 19:04 #navit: < MarcR> I only get 11, as first entry 19:04 #navit: <@KaZeR> frank: we have a hunch but more work will be required 19:05 #navit: < frank> Ok 19:06 #navit: < MarcR> https://drive.google.com/open?id=1TmsQuEGytNtMMc96Otvf846tZqEQCzar 19:07 #navit: < MarcR> hm number 2 is no problem :P 19:07 #navit: <@KaZeR> MarcR: https://www.openstreetmap.org/search?query=marktallee%201%2C%20hiltrup#map=19/51.90279/7.63892 19:07 #navit: < MarcR> I have no real problem with it. 19:07 #navit: <@KaZeR> 1 doesn't seem to be tagged 19:08 #navit: <@KaZeR> 13 works too 19:08 #navit: <@KaZeR> does "1" really exist? 19:08 #navit: < MarcR> there is a 2 so there should be a 1 :P 19:10 #navit: < MarcR> but wait, there was a street that my wife, could find yesterday 19:11 #navit: < MarcR> ah hm, but it is in the streetmap 19:11 #navit: < MarcR> ah ok 19:12 #navit: < MarcR> her fault :P 19:13 #navit: < MarcR> so just bad examples :P 19:13 #navit: <@KaZeR> :D 19:13 #navit: < MarcR> Ah, but there is a think :D 19:13 #navit: < MarcR> My Espeak says nothing 19:13 #navit: < MarcR> in navit 19:14 #navit: < MarcR> but if i give it a go in the terminal, it works 19:15 #navit: <@KaZeR> ha, that's odd. anything in the logs? 19:15 #navit: < MarcR> logs don't like me 19:16 #navit: < MarcR> can't get them to work, how I want it 19:16 #navit: < MarcR> I just want any error that comes from navit, in the log. 19:17 #navit: <@KaZeR> well, error logging is enabled by default. warnings, info and debug aren't 19:17 #navit: <@KaZeR> you do get some logs when using navit, right? 19:17 #navit: < MarcR> yeah but only with : type=track_tracked in it 19:19 #navit: < frank> KaZeR: This is as crashy as the playstore version 19:22 #navit: < frank> no buttons also 19:23 #navit: <@KaZeR> frank: shit. according to my notes this one was working in device farm. the missing buttons are caused by the fact that it's a debug build (i believe) 19:23 #navit: <@KaZeR> buttons should be there though of course 19:26 #navit: <@KaZeR> MarcR: are you talking about vehicle logs or navit logs ? 19:26 #navit: < frank> as i said the day before yerterday, on my tablet i have(had) a version from August, witch worked perfectly. Sadly it was updated. There it doesnt crash, bu no buttons also 19:27 #navit: < MarcR> KaZeR: https://pastebin.com/0i8M2yPx 19:31 #navit: <@KaZeR> frank: can you share the git sha1 in the about screen? 19:32 #navit: <@KaZeR> thanks MarcR. what do you want to do exactly? what's not working as you want regarding logging? 19:33 #navit: < frank> the same as on the phone 0.51+git1711011644 19:34 #navit: < frank> The August verion looked way better out of the box 19:35 #navit: < frank> this one has tiny font sizes and( well... no buttons) 19:35 #navit: < MarcR> KaZeR: just want, that any type of error, what navit will give should be in the log 19:36 #navit: < ilovekiruna> hi all 19:36 #navit: < MarcR> hi ilovekiruna 19:36 #navit: < ilovekiruna> hi MarcR 19:36 #navit: < ilovekiruna> KaZeR: Is right now any beta version released? 19:37 #navit: <@KaZeR> thanks frank 19:37 #navit: <@KaZeR> ilovekiruna: yeah but it's broken. that's the issue that frank is seeing 19:37 #navit: < ilovekiruna> KaZeR: I c. Was curious because i also signed up for beta 19:39 #navit: <@KaZeR> ilovekiruna: do you see the same issue? 19:39 #navit: < ilovekiruna> KaZeR: I never received any update 19:40 #navit: < ilovekiruna> i signed up a couple of days ago 19:40 #navit: < frank> KaZeR: The Version you linked is 1711021927 19:42 #navit: < frank> mine was updated 36 minutes ago :-/ 19:43 #navit: < ilovekiruna> just checked in playstore 19:43 #navit: < ilovekiruna> no updates :( 19:44 #navit: < ilovekiruna> if i open navit page in play store, it says i am beta tester though 19:44 #navit: < ilovekiruna> version 1711011644 19:45 #navit: <@KaZeR> ilovekiruna: i don't see a pending request for you 19:45 #navit: < frank> thts the same i have 19:45 #navit: <@KaZeR> ah, so yeah you're in the group ilovekiruna 19:46 #navit: <@KaZeR> 1711011644 is fairly recent. that's nov 1st, 2017 19:46 #navit: < ilovekiruna> yes 19:46 #navit: <@KaZeR> is this one working correctly? 19:46 #navit: <@KaZeR> well no, that's the one that crashes for frank 19:48 #navit: < frank> But only on the Phone, on the Tablet it doesnt crash 19:48 #navit: < ilovekiruna> KaZeR for me it is starting 19:48 #navit: <@KaZeR> playstore device lab is currently useless : https://imgur.com/a/AK5X8 19:48 #navit: < MarcR> short away - eat ;) 19:48 -!- MarcR is now known as MarcR|away 19:49 #navit: <@KaZeR> frank: interesting. so we might be on a wrong track with the notification thing 19:49 #navit: < ilovekiruna> but on the aubout page it says git:549ebf1 19:49 #navit: <@KaZeR> frank: any chance you could get a adb log for us? 19:49 #navit: < ilovekiruna> is this the same version? 19:49 #navit: <@KaZeR> ilovekiruna: 549ebf1? that's from last May! 19:50 #navit: <@KaZeR> https://github.com/navit-gps/navit/commit/549ebf1 19:50 #navit: < ilovekiruna> then it si even more weird 19:50 #navit: < frank> problem is i didnt found usb debugging on this device yet 19:50 #navit: < ilovekiruna> why do both show totally different things? 19:50 #navit: <@KaZeR> ilovekiruna: no idea yet, but it's really weird indeed 19:50 #navit: < ilovekiruna> KaZeR: Could play and Fdroid cause the issue? 19:50 #navit: < ilovekiruna> mixing boht? 19:52 #navit: <@KaZeR> on the same device? oh yeah probably 19:52 #navit: < ilovekiruna> actually I notice that Fdroid doesnt recognise navit due to different certificate 19:52 #navit: < ilovekiruna> so would exclude this option :( 19:53 #navit: < frank> F-Droid is old 19:53 #navit: < frank> Version navit 0.5.0-6382 (6382) - HinzugefĆ¼gt am 2015-11-18 19:54 #navit: < ilovekiruna> ok, then anyway it cant explain things 19:54 #navit: < ilovekiruna> will just reinstall navit now 19:55 #navit: < ilovekiruna> KaZeR: ok, now also got strange behaviour of navit 19:55 #navit: < ilovekiruna> i have no symbols in the menu 19:55 #navit: < ilovekiruna> but now shows correct version number 19:56 #navit: <@KaZeR> yeah we've seen that one i think it's a broken png conversion or something like that 19:56 #navit: < ilovekiruna> but starting works 19:56 #navit: < ilovekiruna> KaZeR: anything i could test for you? 19:56 #navit: <@KaZeR> i wonder if the crash is related to images. what android version are you guys using? 19:57 #navit: < ilovekiruna> 5.1 19:57 #navit: < frank> ilovekiruna: try to change map style 19:58 #navit: < frank> There it chashes on my phone 19:59 #navit: < ilovekiruna> frank: u mean changing the navit.xml or in the menu? 19:59 #navit: < frank> in the menu. 19:59 #navit: < ilovekiruna> frank: Settings -> Display -> Layout? 19:59 #navit: < frank> like t@h or car-simple 20:00 #navit: < frank> yes 20:00 #navit: < ilovekiruna> if i "click" that actually works 20:00 #navit: < ilovekiruna> i see changes 20:00 #navit: < ilovekiruna> after leaving menu 20:02 #navit: < frank> ok, so my phon is andoid 6.0 my tablet is 5.1 as your device and it doesnt crash so its the andoid verion right? 20:02 #navit: < ilovekiruna> I dont have a device with 6.0 20:04 #navit: < frank> are the fonts smaller than before? 20:04 #navit: <@KaZeR> it might be the version yeah. we could run some test in device farm 20:04 #navit: <@KaZeR> although, more recent builds were failing in 4.4 for me 20:04 #navit: < ilovekiruna> a friend of mine has 7.0 20:04 #navit: < ilovekiruna> would test maybe tomorrow 20:04 #navit: <@KaZeR> http://trac.navit-project.org/ticket/1356 : i compiled a list 20:05 #navit: <@KaZeR> ilovekiruna: thanks. could be interesting to test on different android version in the farm too 20:05 #navit: < ilovekiruna> yeah 20:05 #navit: < ilovekiruna> KaZeR: again on AWS or lovely google? 20:08 #navit: <@KaZeR> i'd try aws as the logs are convenient to fetch maybe 20:24 -!- MarcR|away is now known as MarcR 20:24 -!- frank [~frank@134.97.168.107] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:25 -!- frank [~frank@134.97.168.107] has joined #navit 20:28 #navit: < MarcR> Back again :) 20:30 #navit: < MarcR> I really like the layout of the OpenStreetmap.org Map 20:36 #navit: <@KaZeR> you mean on their website? 20:36 #navit: < MarcR> yeap 20:38 #navit: < MarcR> the map layout that i have adopted ;-) is not as good as it. 20:40 #navit: <@KaZeR> MarcR: we can probably get http://editor.openmaptiles.org to work as a layout generator 20:41 #navit: <@KaZeR> haha, it kept my test layout settings, probably via cookies or something. convenient 20:42 #navit: < MarcR> KaZeR: would be a nice feature, if the end user can edit his map layout with it. its much easyer as editing it in the xml file 20:42 #navit: < MarcR> but, lets get to the log thing first ;) 20:43 #navit: < MarcR> one step after the other ;) 20:46 #navit: <@KaZeR> MarcR: yeah the idea is that you would use that UI to visually edit your layout, and transform the result via a parser or an online service. shouldn't be too hard, i can help you if you want to give it a shot 20:46 #navit: <@KaZeR> so, back to the logs. can you share your current navit output? 20:47 #navit: < MarcR> with the setting in my pastbin - I only get - type=track_tracked in my log file 20:47 #navit: < MarcR> https://pastebin.com/0i8M2yPx 20:49 #navit: <@KaZeR> where did you get that example from? i believe that it works only for vehicle data (logging your gps trace) 20:50 #navit: < MarcR> I try to get some log to work, with the example from the wiki, I think I handled it wrong 20:54 #navit: <@KaZeR> maybe the wiki is confusing :) 20:54 #navit: <@KaZeR> there's 2 types of logs. usually when we say logs we mean application logs. vehicle logs are often called 'traces' maybe we should change that everywhere 20:55 #navit: < MarcR> sometimes wikis are confusing ;) 20:55 #navit: < MarcR> I would like to have the app log in my log dir. 20:58 #navit: <@KaZeR> so, that's where the log file is initialized : https://github.com/navit-gps/navit/blob/trunk/navit/debug.c#L362 20:59 #navit: <@KaZeR> and that's where it's called from : https://github.com/navit-gps/navit/blob/6728e21b0c9383504003684ef65fdf410c409971/navit/start_real.c#L99 20:59 #navit: <@KaZeR> so, `NAVIT_LOGFILE=/path/file.log navit` should do what you want 21:02 #navit: < MarcR> let me try to find the file 21:06 #navit: < MarcR> can I edit the part in the installed version of navit - or should I need to recompile ? 21:11 #navit: < frank> KaZeR:i got logs from the Version you linked:https://pastebin.com/2E84Yi9Y 21:34 #navit: <@KaZeR> can I edit the part in the installed version of navit - or should I need to recompile ? : what do you mean? 21:35 #navit: <@KaZeR> frank: thanks 21:37 #navit: < MarcR> KaZeR: Where can I edit the setting in my navit installation? 21:51 -!- pmckinley [~Peter_McK@88-110-196-166.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #navit 21:51 #navit: < pmckinley> =-O 21:51 #navit: < pmckinley> hey guys 21:53 #navit: < MarcR> hi pmckinley 21:53 #navit: < pmckinley> MarcR, you're the man 21:54 #navit: < MarcR> ? ok 21:54 #navit: < pmckinley> :-D 21:54 #navit: < MarcR> because? ;) 22:00 #navit: < pmckinley> I give you the benefit of the doubt ;) 22:01 #navit: < MarcR> ;) 22:30 #navit: < ilovekiruna> KaZeR: u r good at C, right? 22:33 -!- MarcR [~marc@p5DD93764.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:34 -!- MarcR [~marc@p5DD93764.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #navit 22:37 #navit: < MarcR> see you tomorrow guys 22:37 #navit: < MarcR> KaZeR: thank you for your help, and that you try to help me ;) 22:37 #navit: < MarcR> have a good sleep ! 22:38 -!- MarcR [~marc@p5DD93764.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Client Quit] 22:56 -!- ColdFyre_ [~lenny@24-113-108-124.wavecable.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:04 -!- pmckinley [~Peter_McK@88-110-196-166.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has left #navit [] 23:35 -!- j_f-f [~quassel@rs-7.jff-webhosting.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:41 -!- j_f-f [~quassel@rs-7.jff-webhosting.net] has joined #navit --- Log closed Thu Nov 16 00:00:29 2017