--- Log opened Sat Nov 18 00:00:33 2017
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00:18 #navit: <@KaZeR> hey ilovekiruna 
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00:29 #navit: < ilovekiruna> hi KaZeR
00:29 #navit: < ilovekiruna> hi youte
00:33 #navit: < ilovekiruna> KaZeR: any ideas about the goodies?
00:35 #navit: <@KaZeR> haven't thought too much about it. the big factor will be how much funds we have to spend :)
00:35 #navit: < ilovekiruna> in worst case it would anyway come from our own pocket, or am i wrong?
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01:40 #navit: <@KaZeR> yeah indeed
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18:25 #navit: < jkoan> hi @all
18:29 #navit: < ilovekiruna> hi all
18:29 #navit: < jkoan> hi ilovekiruna
18:29 #navit: < ilovekiruna> hi jkoan
18:30 #navit: < jkoan> whats up?
18:30 #navit: < ilovekiruna> work :(
18:30 #navit: < ilovekiruna> how about u?
18:30 #navit: < ilovekiruna> and getting mad about x2go client
18:31 #navit: < jkoan> right now navit, tomorrow work(learning). I try to build a quick prototype of the rewritten MapServer
18:31 #navit: < jkoan> why x2go?
18:31 #navit: < ilovekiruna> i use it to access my work computer
18:32 #navit: < ilovekiruna> fullscreen is shitty because it then just stretches over laptop screen and external screen
18:32 #navit: < ilovekiruna> and u can just use alt and such keys in fullscreen-mode
18:32 #navit: < ilovekiruna> so work is a bit cumbersome
18:32 #navit: < ilovekiruna> and those bugs are aging
18:33 #navit: < jkoan> hm okay, like a remote desktop with a terminal server? One solution for this on windows is Citrix right?
18:33 #navit: < jkoan> yep, those bugs are annoying 
18:33 #navit: < ilovekiruna> both machines run a better OS ;-)
18:33 #navit: < ilovekiruna> Gentoo
18:34 #navit: < jkoan> yes, i only want to know if this is equivalent 
18:34 #navit: < ilovekiruna> somehow
18:34 #navit: < jkoan> of cause every linux is better then windows
18:34 #navit: < ilovekiruna> despite i never worked with Citrix
18:34 #navit: < ilovekiruna> :D
18:35 #navit: < jkoan> do you want to know more about the mapserver rewrite?
18:35 #navit: < ilovekiruna> sure
18:36 #navit: < jkoan> you know about our binfile format?
18:37 #navit: < jkoan> (its only a zip file)
18:37 #navit: < ilovekiruna> hmmm, not so surprised
18:40 #navit: < jkoan> i will use nodejs with express and archiver in order to get the download stream. The more tricky path is to read all the data from the source planet.bin file. if everything goes well i will use stream-zip to read the file directly from source without put all of it into the ram (because its to much)
18:41 #navit: < jkoan> the problem will probably the read from the zip file (because it seems to not find all entries
18:44 #navit: < ilovekiruna> not surprised, because almost all modern file formats use it
18:44 #navit: < ilovekiruna> ms office, matlab, ...
18:45 #navit: < ilovekiruna> jar
18:45 #navit: < ilovekiruna> libreoffice
18:45 #navit: < jkoan> yes, but all those programs read everything and not only a stream
18:51 #navit: < ilovekiruna> jkoan: How is your MATLAB knowledge?
18:52 #navit: < jkoan> zero? never heard of it
18:53 #navit: < ilovekiruna> ok, no problem
20:15 #navit: < jkoan> KaZeR: are you online?
20:40 #navit: <@KaZeR> hi there
20:40 #navit: <@KaZeR> jkoan: yep
20:45 #navit: < jkoan> Kazer I was thinking of the api endpoints, do you have some preferred structure?
20:46 #navit: < jkoan> (for the mapserver rewrite)
20:49 #navit: <@KaZeR> mmm, that's a widely open question :) you have some specifics in mind?
20:56 #navit: < jkoan> Don't have my PC on but what I have right now something like /api/v2/bbox/xmin/xmax/ymin/ymax for a download of a bbox and /api/v2/areas for output of a json of all provided areas and /api/v2/areas/xml for the same in xml format
20:59 #navit: <@KaZeR> looks good so far
21:01 #navit: < jkoan> V2 to keep it compatible to the old mapserver
21:06 #navit: <@KaZeR> yes absolutely. that's the essence of good practice :)
21:06 #navit: < jkoan> Nodejs is okay for you? :D
21:07 #navit: <@KaZeR> i see why you would choose it. ideally C would be better to avoid too many languages in the stack, but.. 
21:11 #navit: < jkoan> But writing an own http server in c/c++ would be really insecure
21:13 #navit: <@KaZeR> well there's libs for that
21:15 #navit: < jkoan> But in nodejs I already have a prototype :x
21:17 #navit: <@KaZeR> that's why i ended my sentence with `but` :)
21:18 #navit: <@KaZeR> implementation wins over ideas. so while there will probably be concerns about adding a new language to the stack, if it works, well, it works :)
21:21 #navit: < jkoan> Also it is only server-side
21:29 #navit: <@KaZeR> yes, but the concern is more about who from our current devs would be able to contribute
21:34 #navit: < jkoan> Everyone, because it's only Javascript :X
21:38 #navit: <@KaZeR> haha we'll see about that then :)
21:59 #navit: < youte> hello
22:31 #navit: <@KaZeR> hey youte 
22:31 #navit: < ilovekiruna> Hi youte
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