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00:38 #navit: < Navit> The following compiles failed: http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/android_armv5te/svn/navit-svn-.failed http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/osm-exp/svn/navit-svn-.failed http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/src/svn/navit-svn-.failed http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/openmoko/svn/navit-svn-.failed http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/win32/svn/navit-svn-.failed http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/n
00:38 #navit: < Navit> oad.navit-project.org/logs/navit/android_armv4t/svn/navit-svn-.failed http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/android_x86/svn/navit-svn-.failed http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/tomtom/svn/navit-svn-.failed
00:38 #navit: < Navit> See compile results history at http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/stats.html
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09:09 #navit: < jkoan> KaZeR: shit! we forgot something important. we need to close the Changelog exactly in the commit of the tag. 
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15:17 -mist(mist@freenode/staff/mist)- [Global Notice] Sorry for the disruption to services there folk. "Normality" should return shortly.
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18:49 #navit: <@KaZeR> jkoan: actually no, this would be for the actual release, not the RC :)
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18:50 #navit: < jkoan> normaly i know that you keep the changelog also for those releases like we did also (see for old versions)
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19:08 #navit: < gegolo> KaZeR, jkoan I tried using navit with offline maps and wasn't able to convert open street maps
19:08 #navit: < jkoan> hi gegolo
19:08 #navit: < gegolo> do you guys know how to convert maps for navit on windows?
19:09 #navit: < gegolo> I wanted to use a massachusetts state map from osm
19:09 #navit: < jkoan> i dont even know if it is possible out of the box, but did you know that we have a download service for the maps?
19:09 #navit: <@KaZeR> gegolo: conversion shouldn't be platform specific. what have you done so far ?
19:09 #navit: < gegolo> jkoan, you can only download a "small" map online..
19:10 #navit: < gegolo> KaZeR, I tried converting a osm massachusetts state map and it wouldn't work
19:10 #navit: < jkoan> you can download whatever pice of the world you want :D
19:10 #navit: < gegolo> where?
19:10 #navit: < jkoan> maps.navit-project.org/
19:10 #navit: < gegolo> what's the link
19:11 #navit: < jkoan> there you can select a predefined area or select what ever you like
19:11 #navit: < gegolo> ok thanks
19:12 #navit: <@KaZeR> you're not the first one who wasn't aware of the map download service. we need to address that
19:13 #navit: < gegolo> yea, I saw that site before.. didn't know I could download anything
19:14 #navit: < gegolo> it's different with google maps
19:14 #navit: < jkoan> i also dont like the interface of the download service ;)
19:14 #navit: < jkoan> thats a thing youte should address :O
19:14 #navit: < gegolo> KaZeR, jkoan: do you think you'd be able to have an FTP site with different state/countries
19:15 #navit: < jkoan> in my mapserver rewrite i also plnning this feature, yes
19:15 #navit: < jkoan> *planning
19:16 #navit: < jkoan> so probably in the future yes, but it will take time
19:16 #navit: < gegolo> ok cool
19:17 #navit: < youte> ?
19:17 #navit: < gegolo> jkoan, does navit work with: https://www.amazon.com/GlobalSat-ND-105C-Micro-USB-Receiver/dp/B00N32HKIW
19:17 #navit: < gegolo> ?
19:17 #navit: <@KaZeR> gegolo: what would be the benefit of ftp?
19:17 #navit: < gegolo> KaZeR, I just meant a website..
19:17 #navit: <@KaZeR> gegolo: we have a proof of concept to download maps direclty from navit (that's already possible but only for android)
19:17 #navit: < gegolo> ok
19:18 #navit: < jkoan> KaZeR: ftp has the nice benefit that it can be better automated because you can actually ls a directory and go in
19:18 #navit: < gegolo> true
19:18 #navit: < gegolo> jkoan, does it work with the link I posted?
19:19 #navit: < gegolo> I haven't tried yet
19:19 #navit: < jkoan> no, ftp is not supported right now
19:20 #navit: < gegolo> jkoan, I'm talking about the GPS receiver
19:20 #navit: < gegolo> the link I posted above
19:20 #navit: < jkoan> ah, the gps reciver should work, yes. it said that it outputs NMEA data, so yes
19:20 #navit: < gegolo> ah cool
19:21 #navit: < gegolo> thanks
19:22 #navit: <@KaZeR> jkoan: http and webdav too :)
19:23 #navit: < jkoan> wait, what.... https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/410LaVFmXiL.jpg what a supprise, if you connect a gps dongle on a phone it shows up the position... but this is from the internal gps module of the phone because the phone wont handle th usb dongle...
19:23 #navit: < jkoan> yes, webdav is also cool :/ hm
19:23 #navit: < jkoan> but i dont like the available webdav clients
19:26 #navit: <@KaZeR> anyway an api is easy to maintain and should offer similar functionalities
19:26 #navit: < jkoan> yep, but this not needs to be discussed right now ;)
19:31 #navit: < jkoan> KaZeR: what about this? http://heyman.github.io/leaflet-areaselect/example/ it would be very easy to set up
19:43 #navit: <@KaZeR> yep
19:43 #navit: < jkoan> working on a jsfiddle ;)
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19:52 #navit: < jkoan> hi pini
19:53 #navit: < jkoan> we have released the 0.5.1-rc1 probably thats interesting for you ;)
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19:55 #navit: < mvglasow> hi KaZeR, did you by any chance follow Tuesday's logs?
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20:02 #navit: <@KaZeR> mvglasow: i tried.. could you refresh my memory?
20:02 #navit: <@KaZeR> oh
20:02 #navit: <@KaZeR> the discussion about route and things
20:02 #navit: <@KaZeR> i think that we should get more people to chime in, like sleske
20:02 #navit: <@KaZeR> maybe we should discuss that on the forum? i can forward the post to some people to get their opinion too
20:02 #navit: < mvglasow> sure
20:03 #navit: < mvglasow> do we have any precedent for a "protected" API between two core modules?
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20:14 #navit: <@KaZeR> i don't think that we do. until now we really tried to keep them isolated
20:16 #navit: < mvglasow> ok, do you want to forward the question, or would you like me to do that?
20:20 #navit: <@KaZeR> if you could create the post, i can then forward it by mail to a few members
20:22 #navit: < mvglasow> ok, I'll create the post and let you know
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20:39 #navit: <@KaZeR> thanks mvglasow 
20:39 #navit: <@KaZeR> mvglasow: have you seen that 0.5.1-rc1 is out?
20:41 #navit: < mvglasow> KaZeR: I've seen the related discussion, but didn't see it's finally out :-)
20:50 #navit: <@KaZeR> yep, released yesteday :)
20:50 #navit: <@KaZeR> are you on FB or twitter ?
20:51 #navit: < mvglasow> in theory I'm on FB, though seldom logged in
20:52 #navit: < jkoan> KaZeR: for German people the release was yesterday ^^
20:53 #navit: < jkoan> KaZeR: as you know I am in Twitter
20:53 #navit: < jkoan> *on
20:55 #navit: < mvglasow> KaZer: the post is at https://forum.navit-project.org/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=647
22:10 #navit: <@KaZeR> thanks mvglasow 
22:11 #navit: <@KaZeR> i was asking for twitter / fb to get some retweets and likes on the release announcement :)
22:35 #navit: < ilovekiruna> KaZeR: I booked hotel for Brussels now
22:35 #navit: < ilovekiruna> jsut still no clue about our presentation :(
22:39 #navit: <@KaZeR> hopefully soon.. maybe we can try to contact them
22:44 #navit: < ilovekiruna> which option would you choose? https://fosdem.org/2018/contact/
22:47 #navit: <@KaZeR> maybe irc
22:47 #navit: <@KaZeR> and then info@fosdem.org
22:48 #navit: < ilovekiruna> i entered the channel
22:48 #navit: < ilovekiruna> will c how active it is
22:48 #navit: < ilovekiruna> hope we know more tomorrow evening
22:49 #navit: <@KaZeR> yep, fingers crossed
22:50 #navit: < ilovekiruna> KaZeR: when i have a little more time again, what do you suggest to focus on?
22:50 #navit: < ilovekiruna> Appium, AWS device farm, Google Cloud, that additions to navit.xml?
22:51 #navit: <@KaZeR> yeah, appium would be great. we need to up our game regarding android
22:53 #navit: < ilovekiruna> what do you exactly mean?
22:57 #navit: <@KaZeR> we badly broke android a couple of times lately. being able to catch issues, like the missing icons would have prevented pushing that to google play store
22:58 #navit: < ilovekiruna> I wonder if the icons we could have covered directly by appium
22:58 #navit: < ilovekiruna> interesting question
22:58 #navit: < ilovekiruna> what about the question where to run appium?
22:59 #navit: <@KaZeR> ha! well ideally aws farm for now and we can revisit later
22:59 #navit: < ilovekiruna> was discussing earlier i think with jkoan, if we make sth for ourselves in the longer run
23:00 #navit: <@KaZeR> that's be great yeah but it'll take some time
23:01 #navit: < ilovekiruna> I agree
23:01 #navit: < ilovekiruna> nothing to do quickly
23:01 #navit: < ilovekiruna> but u know would love if we could kill all with appium ;-)
23:02 #navit: < ilovekiruna> btw: I think appium might have a limitation when it comes to old versions of Android
23:02 #navit: < ilovekiruna> like gingerbread or so
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