--- Log opened Mon Dec 11 00:00:14 2017 00:02 -!- gegolo [~gegolo@pool-108-26-199-87.bstnma.fios.verizon.net] has joined #navit 00:38 #navit: < Navit> The following compiles failed: http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/android_armv5te/svn/navit-svn-.failed http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/osm-exp/svn/navit-svn-.failed http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/src/svn/navit-svn-.failed http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/openmoko/svn/navit-svn-.failed http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/win32/svn/navit-svn-.failed http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/n 00:38 #navit: < Navit> oad.navit-project.org/logs/navit/android_armv4t/svn/navit-svn-.failed http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/android_x86/svn/navit-svn-.failed http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/tomtom/svn/navit-svn-.failed 00:38 #navit: < Navit> See compile results history at http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/stats.html 00:44 -!- Horwitz [~mich1@p200300800E311B00022268FFFE64E7C4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:57 -!- Horwitz [~mich1@p200300800E00E900022268FFFE64E7C4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #navit 00:57 -!- mode/#navit [+o Horwitz] by ChanServ 01:40 -!- gegolo [~gegolo@pool-108-26-199-87.bstnma.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:44 -!- j_f-f [~quassel@rs-7.jff-webhosting.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:55 -!- j_f-f [~quassel@rs-7.jff-webhosting.net] has joined #navit 04:47 -!- noradtux [~noradtux@2a02:2028:70c:4701:ec4:7aff:fe33:3dc1] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 04:52 -!- noradtux [~noradtux@port-22112.pppoe.wtnet.de] has joined #navit 05:40 -!- j_f-f [~quassel@rs-7.jff-webhosting.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 05:52 -!- j_f-f [~quassel@rs-7.jff-webhosting.net] has joined #navit 05:53 -!- xenos1984 [~xenos1984@2001:bb8:2002:200:6651:6ff:fe53:a120] has joined #navit 07:31 -!- naggety [~naggety@48.red-81-47-57.dynamicip.rima-tde.net] has joined #navit 07:34 #navit: < naggety> Hi all 08:19 -!- naggety [~naggety@48.red-81-47-57.dynamicip.rima-tde.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 08:20 -!- naggety [~naggety@243.red-37-158-12.dynamicip.rima-tde.net] has joined #navit 08:54 #navit: < jkoan> Hi naggety 08:54 #navit: < jkoan> naggety: have you seen the release candidate? ;) 08:56 #navit: < naggety> No, I have been fully disconnected 08:56 #navit: < naggety> I've just been a daddy :) 08:56 #navit: < jkoan> Congratulations :) 08:57 #navit: < naggety> thanks! 08:57 #navit: < naggety> What's up with the RC? 08:58 #navit: < jkoan> it only means that 0.5.1 will come out in a not so distant time 08:58 #navit: < naggety> great! 08:58 #navit: < jkoan> yes :) 08:59 #navit: < jkoan> and ilovekiruna is working to fix all compiler warnings ;) 10:25 #navit: <@KaZeR> naggety: congrats! 10:25 #navit: < jkoan> hi KaZeR 10:26 #navit: <@KaZeR> hi there 10:26 #navit: <@KaZeR> naggety: boy or girl? 12:24 #navit: < naggety> kazer: thank you! 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Thanks! 14:17 -!- naggety [~naggety@243.red-37-158-12.dynamicip.rima-tde.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:17 -!- naggety [~naggety@146.red-81-47-7.dynamicip.rima-tde.net] has joined #navit 15:29 #navit: <@KaZeR> naggety: wow, that's 3 in 3 months in our little irc channel :) 15:36 #navit: < naggety> ensuring navit future xD 15:38 -!- naggety [~naggety@146.red-81-47-7.dynamicip.rima-tde.net] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 15:40 -!- xenos1984 [~xenos1984@2001:bb8:2002:200:6651:6ff:fe53:a120] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 16:00 #navit: <@KaZeR> haha 16:02 -!- xenos1984 [~xenos1984@22-164-191-90.dyn.estpak.ee] has joined #navit 16:32 -!- pini [~pini@bou-fi.pustule.org] has joined #navit 17:20 -!- pini [~pini@bou-fi.pustule.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 19:26 -!- Avic-MRZ02 [5f8e891b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.95.142.137.27] has joined #navit 19:31 #navit: < Avic-MRZ02> Hi there, I've problem about locating NavIt on Windows CE platform. Is there anyone that can help me on that topic. 19:32 #navit: < jkoan> Hi Avic-MRZ02 19:33 #navit: < Avic-MRZ02> Hi jkoan, I have a Pioneer Avic-MRZ02 head unit in my car, it's running Windows CE platform 19:34 #navit: < Avic-MRZ02> I downloaded 'navit-svn-7651' version 19:35 #navit: < Avic-MRZ02> I copied all of the files under USER directory in Head Unit. 19:36 #navit: < Avic-MRZ02> I change the executable filename 'Navit.exe' to 'Navi.exe' because, head unit uses this executable for navigation application 19:37 #navit: < Avic-MRZ02> Change the configuration file for Windows CE but no way, it's not working. 19:37 #navit: < Avic-MRZ02> Which points I have to be careful about? 19:39 #navit: < jkoan> do you have a error log? 19:41 #navit: < Avic-MRZ02> I didn't check. Where will be the error log file? 19:41 #navit: < Avic-MRZ02> Under the working directory of navit.exe? 19:42 #navit: < jkoan> Should be, yes 19:42 #navit: < Avic-MRZ02> I'm sorry, the filename is 'error.log'? 19:46 #navit: < youte> hi 19:48 #navit: <@KaZeR> hi Avic-MRZ02 19:49 #navit: <@KaZeR> Avic-MRZ02: "not working" : it doesn't start at all? no error message, nothing? 19:52 #navit: < Avic-MRZ02> I was in my car, trying to find error.log. There is no error.log file but I've found 'navit.log' file. 19:53 #navit: < Avic-MRZ02> with "not working", I'm trying to say not started at all. 19:53 #navit: < Avic-MRZ02> May be I couldn't manage to fix navit.xml file correctly 19:55 #navit: < jkoan> could you provide the navit.log? 19:56 #navit: < Avic-MRZ02> OK in navit log, it continuously repeats following 4 lines: 19:56 #navit: < Avic-MRZ02> Navit log started 19:56 #navit: < Avic-MRZ02> error:navit:file_init:Maps larger than 2GB are not supported by this binary, sizeof(off_t)=zu 19:56 #navit: < Avic-MRZ02> error:support_libc:_stat:no file 19:56 #navit: < Avic-MRZ02> error:navit:main_real:No config file navit.xml, navit.xml.local found 20:00 #navit: < jkoan> Where did you stored the Navit.xml? 20:01 #navit: < Avic-MRZ02> I'm storing it with navit.exe 20:01 #navit: < Avic-MRZ02> they are in the same folder 20:02 #navit: < jkoan> Did you start navit from command line? 20:02 #navit: < Avic-MRZ02> by the way I change the filename 'navit.exe' to 'navi.exe'. My head unit automatically executes 'navi.exe' 20:04 #navit: < Avic-MRZ02> So I'm not executing from command line, head unit executes it (may be a batch or config file of OS) 20:05 #navit: < jkoan> Hm, than try to put the Navit.xml into the user directory itself. I will read into the source to say exactly what options are available. Wait a moment 20:08 #navit: < Avic-MRZ02> All files and directories are copied exactly under USER\PRG1\APL\ directory 20:08 #navit: < Avic-MRZ02> In this directory 'navi.exe' and 'navit.xml' are togather. 20:11 #navit: < Avic-MRZ02> I can also copy 'navit.xml' under 'USER' directly but in that case will it be required to copy all the other directories like 'locale', 'maps', 'xpm' under 'USER'? 20:14 #navit: < Avic-MRZ02> In a minute I'll try to erase log file and re-run head unit just to check if a new log file is created or not? Because I did a lot of experiments on my head unit until now. 20:18 #navit: < jkoan> It should be enough to copy the Navit.xml 20:19 #navit: < jkoan> Also one important question, did you named the file "Navit.xml" or "navit.xml"? It should be navit.xml 20:20 #navit: < jkoan> So every letter lowcase 20:23 #navit: < Avic-MRZ02> 'navit.xml' with all lower case. 20:24 #navit: < Avic-MRZ02> Now I'll try to copy it under 'USER' directly and turn back 20:25 #navit: <@KaZeR> jkoan: i'm not sure that case matters for wince 20:41 #navit: < Avic-MRZ02> I'm back. I copied 'navit.xml' under 'USER\' also under 'USER\PRG1\' but I got the same log again. 20:43 #navit: < Avic-MRZ02> Is there a relation with executable name? (because I change 'Navit.exe' as 'Navi.exe') 20:45 #navit: < Avic-MRZ02> Logically there must not be any relation with the executable name. 20:54 #navit: <@KaZeR> indeed, the binary will look for a file called navit.xml, not for a file that matches its own name 20:55 #navit: <@KaZeR> verifying something in the code 20:58 #navit: < jkoan> one theorie would be that the head calls navit like .\USER\PRG1\navit.xml so navit would search for .\navit.xml because thats the context of head 21:01 #navit: < Avic-MRZ02> I'm not sure if it allows me to copy a file to the root. 21:05 #navit: < Avic-MRZ02> Now I'll try to copy it to other context-related locations and tell you the result 21:11 #navit: <@KaZeR> yes, pretty sure that it's something like that 21:17 #navit: <@KaZeR> Avic-MRZ02: you mentioned copying files manually. you can't use the .cab for the installation? 21:20 #navit: < jkoan> KaZeR: cab is Borken as far I know because navit has to much files and cab don't support that 21:21 #navit: < Avic-MRZ02> I cannot use CAB installation. I can only copy. 21:22 #navit: < Avic-MRZ02> I created exact directory structure and copy all files (without any missing) 21:24 #navit: < Avic-MRZ02> By the way, I copied 'navit.xml' to 5 different locations but result is the same 21:24 #navit: < jkoan> Avic-MRZ02: could you run navit from command line just for debugging purposes? 21:27 #navit: < Avic-MRZ02> I'm not sure, command line program is not allowing to run executables, just allows to copy, paste, delete etc. 21:34 #navit: < jkoan> Do you have a desktop? 21:35 #navit: < jkoan> (I know that you are running wince) but I don't know wince really good 21:36 #navit: < Avic-MRZ02> No there is no desktop in head-unit that I'm using. 21:36 #navit: < Avic-MRZ02> When it starts, automatically it runs 2 applications. 21:37 #navit: < Avic-MRZ02> One of then is the audio-video application (music player, radio etc) 21:37 #navit: < Avic-MRZ02> The other one is the navigation application 21:39 #navit: < Avic-MRZ02> There are two buttons on device, by pressing these buttons, related application appears (but both of them are working in background) 21:40 #navit: < jkoan> Hm okay. My wince device only runs on application which can be controlled by a script which can be fined in the total root of the device... So I can't really help. I mainly use everything that runs Linux 21:41 #navit: < Avic-MRZ02> Name of the audio-video application is 'Av.exe' and navigation application is 'Navi.exe' (That's why I change the executable name) 21:42 #navit: <@KaZeR> Avic-MRZ02: what if you copy a cmd.exe to navi.exe ? 21:42 #navit: < jkoan> KaZeR: nice idea 21:43 #navit: < jkoan> Only problem could probably be that no keyboard is available. This would be in my case 21:43 #navit: < Avic-MRZ02> I tried to find a 'cmd.exe' which runs in Windows CE before but couldn't manage to find. Let me check again. 21:44 #navit: <@KaZeR> i *believe* that one is shipped, it's just buried in a subfolder. but it's been years since i've used wince 21:58 #navit: < Avic-MRZ02> Thanks jkoan & KaZeR. It was a nice chat. As result, wrt. log file, my problem is related with missing 'navit.xml'. 21:58 #navit: < jkoan> But we have no solution right now? 21:59 #navit: < Avic-MRZ02> I'll try to fix it somehow (now I don't know how). May be I have to check attributes of copied files. 22:00 #navit: <@KaZeR> sure Avic-MRZ02, anytime! 22:01 #navit: <@KaZeR> some days we can help more than others :) 22:01 #navit: < jkoan> Then I wish you good luck with it. If you found the solution we would be happy if you could come back and tell us about ;) 22:03 #navit: < Avic-MRZ02> If I stuck with another problem while trying to find a solution I will come back OR If I manage to find a solution I will again come back and tell you. See you. Thanks again. 22:03 #navit: < jkoan> Probably then we can work together with you to provide more up to date navit binarys for wince. Because this is currently one of our problems. As I told you before, very technical stuff with toolchains and so on 22:04 #navit: < jkoan> See you have a nice whatever in your time zone, for me, have a nice evening 22:04 #navit: < Avic-MRZ02> Why not jkoan :) 22:05 #navit: < Avic-MRZ02> in my time-zone 5 mins passed mid-night 22:05 #navit: < Avic-MRZ02> bye 22:06 -!- Avic-MRZ02 [5f8e891b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.95.142.137.27] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:08 #navit: < jkoan> KaZeR: just as reminder to remind you about reminders : todo list :P 22:09 #navit: < jkoan> Most important: wiki and 0.5.1 22:12 #navit: < jkoan> BTW KaZeR do you want to have navit 0.5.1 out before Christmas? 22:14 #navit: <@KaZeR> jkoan: yeah thanks :) 22:14 #navit: <@KaZeR> yeah i think that Christmas is a reasonnable deadline 22:16 #navit: < jkoan> As you know not for me. So I would say goodbye to the development until Christmas ;) I will only provide opinions and probably organize things ;) but I will not do things in the code anymore. 22:16 #navit: <@KaZeR> sure, exams come first :) 22:17 #navit: <@KaZeR> btw : i am planning on applying for a couple of projects for Gsoc. Ideas are welcome! 22:17 #navit: < jkoan> Probably document them somewhere? 22:18 #navit: <@KaZeR> yeah 22:18 #navit: <@KaZeR> i'm thinking wiki for that 22:18 #navit: < jkoan> Sounds good 22:19 #navit: < jkoan> Have you seen the tasks at trello I added for. 0.6.0? 22:21 #navit: <@KaZeR> not yet, but will check 22:21 #navit: < jkoan> For gsoc probably the mapserver rewrite. We both could be the mentor together 22:22 #navit: < jkoan> After understanding the bin file itself it is not so difficult to write it. But would give us a big benefit 22:23 #navit: <@KaZeR> yes indeed 22:23 #navit: <@KaZeR> i was also thinking about differential map updates on the client side for example 22:23 #navit: <@KaZeR> or p2p map distribution 22:24 #navit: <@KaZeR> also, IOS port 22:24 #navit: < jkoan> That would something that we can think of, yes. But I think the main rework has priority, right? 22:26 #navit: < jkoan> If we don't have the code where such an diff upgrade could benn integrated theirs nothing we can do ;) 22:27 #navit: <@KaZeR> kind of true. the rationale is also that people pick projects that they are interested in. By offering more projects, we have a higher chance of having someone be interested 22:28 #navit: <@KaZeR> i don't think that today someone will apply just because of the Navit branding :) 22:30 #navit: < jkoan> Yep, I think I agree. I will think about more tasks and also real defined goals and some hints in the right direction 22:30 #navit: < jkoan> Seen 0.6.0 on trello? 22:32 #navit: <@KaZeR> yep. boy, that board is getting crowded 22:32 #navit: <@KaZeR> i think that this would actually be a better fit for trac 22:32 #navit: <@KaZeR> it's dev-related, and milestone related 22:35 #navit: < jkoan> That's true, but i would more say it's better on GitHub projects maybe. I don't know why but I feel so uncomfortable with trac. Or in other words I don't find the right Workflow between github, trello and trac. 22:36 #navit: <@KaZeR> we should use Github as a public replacement of trello i think. Trello was my own sandbox to keep track of things before you started helping 22:36 #navit: <@KaZeR> dev things should go in trac (for now) 22:37 #navit: <@KaZeR> org / infrastructure things should go in trello (or github, but the org one) 22:37 #navit: <@KaZeR> makes sense? 22:38 #navit: < jkoan> Okay, would you mind to sort and transfer everything from trello to github project? 22:38 #navit: <@KaZeR> i don't mind at all 22:39 #navit: < jkoan> I would like to use the orgs one instead of trello 22:39 #navit: < jkoan> Where should milestones go? 22:40 #navit: < jkoan> I mean such a list as I made for the 0.5.1 release 22:40 #navit: <@KaZeR> milestone should probably be kept on trac for now 22:41 #navit: <@KaZeR> in the future if we want to switch to gh issues + milestone we might ditch trac, but some contributors would like to stick to trac for now 22:42 #navit: < jkoan> Okay 22:43 #navit: < jkoan> But now I go to sleep, good bye. Good luck with the wiki :) 22:47 #navit: <@KaZeR> thanks. won't work on it today :) 22:47 #navit: <@KaZeR> good night! 23:35 -!- j_f-f [~quassel@rs-7.jff-webhosting.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 23:48 -!- j_f-f [~quassel@rs-7.jff-webhosting.net] has joined #navit --- Log closed Tue Dec 12 00:00:16 2017