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00:39 #navit: < Navit> The following compiles failed: http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/android_armv5te/svn/navit-svn-.failed http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/osm-exp/svn/navit-svn-.failed http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/src/svn/navit-svn-.failed http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/openmoko/svn/navit-svn-.failed http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/win32/svn/navit-svn-.failed http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/n
00:39 #navit: < Navit> oad.navit-project.org/logs/navit/android_armv4t/svn/navit-svn-.failed http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/android_x86/svn/navit-svn-.failed http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/tomtom/svn/navit-svn-.failed
00:39 #navit: < Navit> See compile results history at http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/stats.html
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00:53 #navit: <@KaZeR> jkoan: i've been thinking about AVIC-MRZ02's issue, and i thought that for some platform we could have hardcoded backup settings. On wince for example, we know what graphics and gui you're going to use
00:53 #navit: <@KaZeR> this would help provide feedback with config issues, as we could display some info about the config file in the menu somewhere
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05:51 #navit: < jkoan> KaZeR: we could also write out something like "could not find config file at /bla/navit.xml;/blub/navit.xml;
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05:59 #navit: < jkoan> Or other solution: open an alert box with the full path where the config should be stored
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08:38 #navit: < jkoan> Hi naggety
08:39 #navit: < naggety> Hi jkoan
08:39 #navit: < jkoan> And what's up? :)
08:41 #navit: < naggety> Not so much, trying to build festival with buildroot for my device
08:42 #navit: < naggety> Unfortunatelly it's not officially supported
08:42 #navit: < naggety> You?
08:42 #navit: < jkoan> Then I wish you good luck with it :)
08:42 #navit: < jkoan> Nothing navit related
11:45 #navit: <@KaZeR> jkoan: exactly what i had in mind
11:45 #navit: <@KaZeR> (the config thing)
11:46 #navit: <@KaZeR> hi naggety 
11:57 #navit: < naggety> hi kazer
11:58 #navit: < naggety> how are you?
11:59 #navit: <@KaZeR> doing well thanks. flying back home tomorrow. How's life with your new baby?
12:00 #navit: < naggety> a bit crazy, and time consuming haha
12:01 #navit: < naggety> this night she didn't want to sleep, and it's difficult to know what does it happens to her, sometimes
12:01 #navit: < naggety> we're adapting, though
12:01 #navit: < naggety> are you on holidays or what?
12:01 #navit: <@KaZeR> yeah, adapting, that's the thing :)
12:02 #navit: <@KaZeR> not really holidays/vacation, but introducing my own baby girl to friends and family
12:02 #navit: <@KaZeR> hint : jetlag + baby = super tough!
12:03 #navit: < naggety> haha
12:03 #navit: < naggety> so you also have a new born baby?
12:03 #navit: < naggety> I read some days ago another person had one too, but I didn't know about yours
12:04 #navit: <@KaZeR> yeah, mine is from september, and zintor's is from october
12:04 #navit: < naggety> congrats!
12:06 #navit: <@KaZeR> thanks :)
12:08 #navit: < naggety> How can I contribute to the next navit release?
12:08 #navit: <@KaZeR> thanks for asking! there's plenty of ways to contribute. One would be to look at the miletone : http://trac.navit-project.org/query?status=assigned&status=new&status=reopened&group=status&milestone=version+0.5.1
12:09 #navit: <@KaZeR> another one is to contribute to the docs, either on the wiki or on the newer readthedocs 
12:09 #navit: <@KaZeR> testing is also super important, so testing things outside of what you usually use
12:10 #navit: <@KaZeR> lastly, promoting navit : social medias, your friends, etc
12:10 #navit: < naggety> I don't mind, please tell me where I am more helpful right now
12:10 #navit: < naggety> There are so many tickets, suggest me one
12:11 #navit: <@KaZeR> so right now, working on something from the milestone list is probably the best. let me see
12:11 #navit: <@KaZeR> http://trac.navit-project.org/ticket/806 might just need to confirm if the issue still exists or is fixed
12:12 #navit: <@KaZeR> http://trac.navit-project.org/ticket/1353 should be easy to confirm and fix too
12:13 #navit: <@KaZeR> what type of devices do you have to test navit?
12:14 #navit: < naggety> desktop and laptop computers, and android phone
12:14 #navit: <@KaZeR> also, what kind of things do you like to do? we've got tasks in many, many different areas: code, automation, infrastructure
12:14 #navit: < naggety> Computers with Win10 and Linux
12:15 #navit: <@KaZeR> ha, a quick test of navit on windows could be useful too
12:15 #navit: < naggety> code is OK, I don't know what do you mean with automation, and infrastructure I'd rather not to do it (not so much knowledge)
12:16 #navit: <@KaZeR> automation would be our build system (writing scripts to chain jobs together) for example. or automating some tests, like UI tests
12:17 #navit: <@KaZeR> our spanish translation seems decent, that's also something where it's easy to contribute : https://translations.launchpad.net/navit/trunk/+pots/navit/es/+translate
12:18 #navit: < naggety> I was working on spanish translation in the past weeks. I think it's Ok right now: I added some missing translations and corrected others that were not very well
12:19 #navit: < naggety> I neither have knowledge about automation, but I wouldn't mind to get into build automation, this way I start learning
12:20 #navit: <@KaZeR> ha, i remember looking at an update on the spanish translation a couple of weeks ago. here's the result : https://github.com/navit-gps/navit/compare/i18n/es?expand=1
12:20 #navit: <@KaZeR> if you look at that PR, some translations have been commented
12:21 #navit: <@KaZeR> look at the block starting around line 2427
12:24 #navit: < naggety> that line is just in the middle of a big block
12:24 #navit: < naggety> ah wait
12:25 #navit: < naggety> I got it 
12:26 #navit: <@KaZeR> so if we merge that, these translations will not be translated anymore
12:26 #navit: < naggety> All this are new strings?
12:26 #navit: < naggety> Or they already existed
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12:27 #navit: <@KaZeR> they already existed, but for some reason got commented out, and then replaced somewhere else with an empty translation
12:27 #navit: <@KaZeR> look for "Limousin" for example, which is a region of France. You'll find 2 entries
12:28 #navit: < naggety> Very weird, I don't think all this strings were bad translated, I don't know who commented them out nor why
12:30 #navit: < naggety> I appear as the last translator, but I didn't remove that strings, at least I didn't intend to
12:32 #navit: <@KaZeR> could be someone before you, or could be a software issue. what tool did you use to update the translations? launchpad or something else?
12:32 #navit: < naggety> launchpad
12:33 #navit: <@KaZeR> ok. we can easily re-upload the translation from navit's trunk, but we will loose your latest updates doing that
12:34 #navit: < naggety> It is not possible to see the edit history in launchpad=
12:34 #navit: < naggety> ?
12:34 #navit: <@KaZeR> i was looking for it but didn't find it
12:42 #navit: < naggety> It is weird because not only the translation has been commented, also the original string, so they "disappear"
12:42 #navit: <@KaZeR> yes exactly
12:43 #navit: < naggety> Can I download the diff file from github?
12:43 #navit: < naggety> You can revert the changes, and I manually repeat all the changes I made
12:43 #navit: <@KaZeR> ok. i can show you how to do it also :)
12:44 #navit: <@KaZeR> the easy way is to download https://github.com/navit-gps/navit/blob/trunk/po/es.po.in and rename it to es.po
12:44 #navit: <@KaZeR> then upload it to https://translations.launchpad.net/navit/trunk/+pots/navit/es/+upload 
12:44 #navit: <@KaZeR> you can download the diff using some github magic: https://github.com/navit-gps/navit/compare/i18n/es.diff
12:45 #navit: <@KaZeR> (just add .diff to the comparison url :) )
12:45 #navit: < naggety> How did you get this last link
12:45 #navit: < naggety> ah, but there is no hyperlink in github?
12:46 #navit: <@KaZeR> no, you need to know the trick, there's no link :)
12:46 #navit: < naggety> ok, thanks
12:47 #navit: < naggety> launchpad translation tool is not so great, I see
12:47 #navit: <@KaZeR> yeah
12:48 #navit: < naggety> ok, I have po and diff files, I will correct it
12:48 #navit: <@KaZeR> we are still using it because we get contributions from people not related to Navit, but who just like to help translating free software
12:48 #navit: <@KaZeR> thanks!
12:54 #navit: < naggety> kazer: I was having trouble to build festival with buildroot. Finally I think I solved it deactivating parallel building. Do you know why that can make the build to fail?
13:09 #navit: <@KaZeR> mmm. do you have logs?
13:09 #navit: < naggety> No, they got deleted with last successful build
13:10 #navit: < naggety> but for example, in one case linker didn't find some symbols, but they were defined in a file that should be compiled yet
13:27 #navit: <@KaZeR> odd. i believe that there' an option to disable parallel builds for one specific package thought
13:28 #navit: < naggety> Yes, that's what I've done
13:28 #navit: < naggety> FESTIVAL_MAKE = $(MAKE1)
13:28 #navit: < naggety> I will try to investigate
13:28 #navit: < naggety> but for the moment it's ok
13:39 #navit: <@KaZeR> ok
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16:58 #navit: <@KaZeR> hi gegolo 
16:58 #navit: < gegolo> hey
16:59 #navit: < gegolo> how long will it be for the ftp site with different regions? lol
17:01 #navit: < jkoan> you mean for mapserver?
17:01 #navit: < gegolo> I think so
17:01 #navit: < gegolo> I would like to download only a state map for example
17:02 #navit: < jkoan> dont wait for it in the next half year. it will take verry long because we need to completely write a new software for it
17:03 #navit: < gegolo> ah ok
17:03 #navit: < gegolo> :)
17:07 #navit: <@KaZeR> well
17:07 #navit: <@KaZeR> i don't really see the value of using ftp
17:07 #navit: < gegolo> http is fine with me
17:07 #navit: <@KaZeR> but i think that we should start seeing improvements in the map distribution in early 2018
17:08 #navit: < gegolo> ah cool
17:08 #navit: < jkoan> i would think more mid 2018 but we are working on it ;)
18:30 #navit: < ilovekiruna> hi everyone
18:34 #navit: < ilovekiruna> KaZeR, jkoan: still no update :(
18:34 #navit: < jkoan> :,(
18:34 #navit: < ilovekiruna> just checked again
18:34 #navit: < jkoan> Only we or everyone?
18:35 #navit: < ilovekiruna> we and I suppose everyone
18:35 #navit: < ilovekiruna> jkoan: do you know yourself or someone who could help me with the missing brackets warning?
18:35 #navit: < jkoan> Okay :(
18:35 #navit: < ilovekiruna> seems like a mix of python and C :-S
18:35 #navit: < jkoan> Wait, what?
18:36 #navit: < ilovekiruna> i talk about the compiler warnings I am working on
18:36 #navit: < ilovekiruna> https://github.com/navit-gps/navit/blob/2965884a4227f0437d384a86facc6d2a9dcc4c74/navit/binding/python/config.c#L56
18:36 #navit: < jkoan> Ah okay
18:36 #navit: < jkoan> What's the problem there?
18:37 #navit: < ilovekiruna> compiler complains about missing brackets or braces around Obj_HEAD
18:38 #navit: < jkoan> Hm, I don't know. But probably Kazer does
18:38 #navit: < ilovekiruna> is he still around?
18:38 #navit: < jkoan> Should be, yes
18:38 #navit: < ilovekiruna> ok, then i will wait for him :)
18:39 #navit: < jkoan> Y
18:39 #navit: < jkoan> Ups
18:40 #navit: < jkoan> Just poke him (Kazer) until he answers ;)
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19:22 #navit: < ilovekiruna> KaZeR: have you seen my question on python?
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20:43 -!- Topic for #navit: The open source vector based navigation program with routing engine. See http://wiki.navit-project.org. Please be patient if you don't get a response immediately. Please use http://navit.pastebin.com for your pastes! Channel is logged : http://irclogs.navit.ie/ Follow @NavitProject on Twitter.
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21:23 #navit: <@KaZeR> ilovekiruna: i just did :)
21:23 #navit: <@KaZeR> what's the exact warning?
21:24 #navit: < ilovekiruna> missing braces
21:25 #navit: < ilovekiruna> /tmp/navit/navit/binding/python/navit.c:122:2: varning: braces missing around initializer [-Wmissing-braces]
21:25 #navit: < ilovekiruna>   Obj_HEAD
21:26 #navit: < ilovekiruna> i translated it from swedish ;-)
21:29 #navit: <@KaZeR> thanks for the translation :)
21:30 #navit: <@KaZeR> this isn't the one you linked above (but no big deal)
21:30 #navit: < ilovekiruna> anyway style is the same
22:08 #navit: < jkoan> KaZeR: if you have some time please see the PRs and comment what needs to be done. At 23 I will fix mine. Probably also cmake so we can build the Deb files ;)
23:24 #navit: < ilovekiruna> KaZeR: so any suggestion?
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23:46 #navit: <@KaZeR> sorry ilovekiruna got sidetracked packing
23:47 #navit: <@KaZeR> jkoan: for #376 i wonder if we shouldn't use an empty sha instead of that string set(GIT_OUTPUT_HASH "xdevxgitxnotxfound")
23:47 #navit: <@KaZeR> do we check also for the content of the sha when building the package?
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