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10:37 #navit: < ilovekiruna> hi KaZeR, hi all
10:43 #navit: < naggety> hi ilovekiruna
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10:58 #navit: < jkoan> Hi ilovekiruna and naggety
10:59 #navit: < naggety> hi
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16:50 #navit: <@KaZeR> hi there
16:52 #navit: < youte> hi
16:57 #navit: < jkoan> Hi Kazer hi youte
16:57 #navit: <@KaZeR> 'sup guys?
16:59 #navit: < jkoan> First exam done (result pending till next year) so only 4 to go
17:05 #navit: < jkoan> And as you probably also have seen we have 3 times the same crash on Android with two different devices, I created a new tick and added it as a blocker for 0.5.1
17:13 #navit: <@KaZeR> ha, waiting for results is the worst. but at least this one's done!
17:14 #navit: < jkoan> Yep, but now I can't change this one. :D
17:15 #navit: <@KaZeR> exactly :)
17:18 #navit: < jkoan> Seen my private message? :D
17:20 #navit: <@KaZeR> not yet
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18:32 #navit: <@KaZeR> hey AVIC-MRZ02 
18:33 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> Hi KaZeR
18:33 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> We couldn't meet since Friday (I think) :)
18:34 #navit: <@KaZeR> yeah, didn't spend a lot of time in front of the computer this week-end :)
18:35 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> Sometimes it's better to be away from it :) But not much :)))
18:40 #navit: <@KaZeR> exactly :)
18:40 #navit: <@KaZeR> so where were we with your headunit ?
18:41 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> I'm not sure but I think there was a parsing problem, do you want to see the final logs?
18:43 #navit: <@KaZeR> oh yeah i remember now
18:43 #navit: <@KaZeR> issue with ezxml on wince, but the same file works on win32, correct?
18:44 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> These were the final logs https://pastebin.com/W4nRpnvz
18:44 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> I think so.
18:45 #navit: <@KaZeR> yep so we need to dig into why ezxml fails to parse the config file
18:46 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> Is there any other component which is used to parse the config file. Something like a library or initialization etc.
18:48 #navit: <@KaZeR> ezxml is the librry we use for win32/wince. for linux/android builds we have another one
18:48 #navit: <@KaZeR> i checked, and the version we use is the latest already
18:49 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> Why I'm asking this question? I don't know the structure, I'm just thinking. In the beginning it was not possible to open config file, may be still we have the same problem with other components
18:50 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> May be the problem is the latest version. The model of my car is 2014 but the head-unit may be older.
18:51 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> I think WinCE version on head-unit is 5.0 (not 6.0)
18:51 #navit: <@KaZeR> oh feel free to ask questions. i can definitely overlook a part of the problem :)
18:52 #navit: <@KaZeR> did the head unit come with your car?
18:52 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> Yes.
18:52 #navit: <@KaZeR> nice
18:52 #navit: <@KaZeR> that's an aftermarket unit though, no/
18:53 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> I'm not sure. There are a lot of cars around (same model) having the more or less same units on them.
18:54 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> At least they are all using the same OS (WinCE) with same software on them.
18:56 #navit: <@KaZeR> i think it's the first time that i hear about a car sold with a stock wince device. what kind of car is this?
18:56 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> Mazda (Japan) and unit is Pioneer.
18:57 #navit: <@KaZeR> oh, are you from Japan?
18:57 #navit: < jkoan> KaZeR: error:navit:main_real:Error parsing config file '\NAND\PRG1\APL/navit.xml': did you see any problem in this error message itself?
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18:58 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> No, I'm from Cyprus
18:58 #navit: <@KaZeR> jkoan: no, and that's probably where we need to dig. ezxml doesn't give us more details. i know that it has some restrictions though, so maybe it's breaking because of something that we changed in the config itself
18:59 #navit: <@KaZeR> AVIC-MRZ02: ha ok. You mentioned having converted the language of your headunit indeed
18:59 #navit: < jkoan> Kazer what about / vs. \? 
18:59 #navit: <@KaZeR> jkoan: whaat do you mean?
18:59 #navit: <@KaZeR> oh the file path?
18:59 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> Yep, it was not possible to understand anything (even PLAY button)
18:59 #navit: < jkoan> Yep
19:00 #navit: <@KaZeR> jkoan: i don't think that it's the issue, because it doesn't complain about opening the file, only about parsing it
19:00 #navit: <@KaZeR> AVIC-MRZ02: haha
19:00 #navit: < jkoan> But what if only ezxml has problems to open the file
19:01 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> In windows both of them works most of the time (\ and /).
19:03 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> Only in few cases I had problem with \ and /, but I don't remember these cases now :(
19:03 #navit: <@KaZeR> jkoan: we pass a pointer to the opened file to ezxml : https://github.com/navit-gps/navit/blob/trunk/navit/xmlconfig.c#L1187 
19:04 #navit: <@KaZeR> AVIC-MRZ02: if you stumbled upon these again, we'd love to fix them
19:04 #navit: <@KaZeR> AVIC-MRZ02: i'm going to build a new binary for you with even more debugging, maybe we can pinpoint it
19:05 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> I hope
19:05 #navit: < jkoan> Hm okay
19:05 #navit: <@KaZeR> AVIC-MRZ02: it's too bad that you can't run more things on your device, because we could do a realtime debugging session otherwise : https://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/WinCE_development#Remote_Debugging 
19:08 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> It's not possible to run anything. I couldn't manage to run even cmd.exe. Today I searched a lot to find a way but hopeless.
19:09 #navit: < jkoan> But navit is running (at least starting), very nice :) 
19:10 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> There is another problem that I'm trying to solve. The time zone is Tokyo (UTC+9 hrs) but our zone is UTC+2 and the solution is just a simple key in registry
19:11 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> Today, I found an old laptop. I will install Win XP + VS2005 + WinCE SDK on it :)
19:12 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> But I need a little bit of time :)
19:14 #navit: <@KaZeR> AVIC-MRZ02: could you try navit-4363cc37d5008e85af7c6eb325bf578a.exe please ?
19:14 #navit: <@KaZeR> we could also implement an override in navit for the timezone if needed, but doing it at the device level would be better for sure
19:15 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> OK, I'm downloading
19:26 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> https://pastebin.com/5SGvi6ZH
19:26 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> I'm sorry, I'm late, these are the logs
19:26 #navit: <@KaZeR> no worries
19:26 #navit: <@KaZeR> error:navit:parse_file:ezxml_parse_fp() failed, no root found -> so we know exactly what fails now.
19:27 #navit: <@KaZeR> you're 100% sure that the file at "\NAND\PRG1\APL/navit.xml" is correct ?
19:28 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> I cannot see the NAND directory
19:29 #navit: <@KaZeR> but you see the PRG1 directory, right ?
19:29 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> the file location that I can see is that
19:29 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> just a sec.
19:29 #navit: <@KaZeR> no rush
19:30 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> USER\PRG1\APL\navit.xml
19:31 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> I think NAND is the root but it is hidden, I don't have access directly to NAND
19:32 #navit: <@KaZeR> ok. can you try to delete that navit.xml file? i'd like to confirm that we get a different error message if the file doesn't exist
19:32 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> OK. now I'll delete navit.xml and reboot the device
19:42 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> OK. I deleted navit.xml file and re-boot. Here's the log https://pastebin.com/GN5YVgxN
19:51 #navit: <@KaZeR> so it is able to find that file, and USER and NAND paths seems to point to the same thing
19:51 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> Yes it seems.
19:52 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> I'll copy my navit.xml back
20:11 #navit: <@KaZeR> AVIC-MRZ02: can you try navit-fc876abfb7da94fd11fc6e4520105a2a.exe please ?
20:12 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> I'm downloading
20:21 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> Here's the final log https://pastebin.com/zdnFbXTU
20:21 #navit: <@KaZeR> so doesn't look like a memory issue, and your device has 128MB of RAM
20:23 #navit: <@KaZeR> rather 180MB. odd value :)
20:23 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> Yes, total ram is about 175MB
20:24 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> In fact 175.6 MB :)))
20:24 #navit: <@KaZeR> so with more than 100MB of ram available, it's probably not a memory issue when parsing the file
20:25 #navit: <@KaZeR> yeah the odd value is probably because some of that memory is shared with the graphics card
20:25 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> Most probably.
20:25 #navit: <@KaZeR> can you share your navit.xml file? i'm going to run some local tests
20:26 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> OK. I'm copying to pastebin.
20:27 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> This is my navit.xml file https://pastebin.com/MkWLiLGH
20:28 #navit: <@KaZeR> thanks
20:29 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> This XML file is working on win32 version without any problem
20:31 #navit: <@KaZeR> yeah. a strict parser found two issues with that file
20:32 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> What are them???
20:33 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> I modified this file but didn't change too much, just the name of map file and another line to make it work in windows as far as I remember
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21:04 #navit: <@KaZeR> AVIC-MRZ02: on the line 372, can you try to add 'data=""' ? so that it looks like <speech type="espeak" cps="15" data=""/>
21:05 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> OK.
21:07 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> Do you want me to test it?
21:08 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> I'm testing it.
21:15 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> Log File after the test https://pastebin.com/PVduCJfA
21:26 #navit: <@KaZeR> mkay thanks. so it's not the dtd compliancy that breaks the parsing. crap.
21:28 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> Will it better to change xml file back to it's previous version?
21:34 #navit: <@KaZeR> which version? because one of my next suggestion would be to try with a very old navit.xml
21:36 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> The version that I pasted
21:37 #navit: <@KaZeR> oh. let's try with a really older one. looking for one that would be suitable
21:37 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> OK, waiting.
21:38 #navit: <@KaZeR> like maybe http://sd-55475.dedibox.fr/navit-0.2.0.xml 
21:40 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> I'm just asking for confirmation. Is it total 5045 lines?
21:41 #navit: <@KaZeR> i see 5058 here
21:42 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> Just a sec.
21:42 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> If I start counting from 1 it's 5059
21:43 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> Anyway :) I'm trying it
21:46 #navit: <@KaZeR> the 1 line difference could be how the file is terminated, it's different on linux and windows :)
21:46 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> BUT I cannot use this file without modifying it!
21:47 #navit: <@KaZeR> why?
21:47 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> For example on line 463, name of the bin file is different
21:48 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> I downloaded the map of cyprus and named it as cyprus.bin
21:48 #navit: <@KaZeR> no big deal, as we just want to see if this file is parseable
21:50 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> OK without changing I'm trying it
21:50 #navit: <@KaZeR> perfect
21:56 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> Here's the final log after old xml https://pastebin.com/D3kqXHAG
21:59 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> Still we have parse error.
22:02 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> 1) We are sure that it is accessing to file.
22:02 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> 2) We are sure that there is no memory problem
22:03 #navit: <@KaZeR> yep.
22:05 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> Are we using same parse function with Win32?
22:11 #navit: <@KaZeR> yes, ezxml is used on non linux-based platforms
22:13 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> I copied the xml file that you send under Win32 directory on my PC, it's working.
22:17 #navit: <@KaZeR> i'm quite puzzled by this issue. next idea would be to write a small piece of code to read the content and display a sample, before passing the pointer to the parser
22:18 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> To be sure that it's reading from file without any problem.
22:20 #navit: <@KaZeR> exactly
22:21 #navit: <@KaZeR> i can probably do that later today
22:22 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> OK KaZeR. By the way I have to go to sleep, it's 12:20 here :)
22:22 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> We can continue later.
22:25 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> A small piece of code which directly reads the file and writes whatever taken from file to another file may be.
22:30 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> OK. I'll wake up after 4.5 hrs, thanks for your help, see you tomorrow.
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