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10:02 #navit: < zintor> hi@ all
10:03 #navit: < zintor> regarding splitting navit.xml: do I understand it right, that it is not really maitainable
10:05 #navit: < zintor> or is it more than just splitting
10:05 #navit: < zintor> and it makes some more work
10:08 #navit: < zintor> and in the end of all a visual navit.xml editor would be best
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17:27 #navit: <@KaZeR> hi there
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18:30 #navit: <@KaZeR> hey AVIC-MRZ02
18:30 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> Hi KaZeR
18:31 #navit: <@KaZeR> i got a wince device from a friend yesterday to help run our tests. now i need to find how to run custom .exe on it
18:32 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> I need a very very tiny executable which runs on my device but I don't have an environment to compile it
18:32 #navit: <@KaZeR> you have the code?
18:32 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> just 4 lines of code
18:32 #navit: <@KaZeR> can you share that code?
18:33 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> just a sec.
18:34 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> Here is the code https://pastebin.com/M6FKjMST
18:38 #navit: <@KaZeR> ok, might or might not work :) http://sd-55475.dedibox.fr/test.exe
18:39 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> I'll try in a minute and be back
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18:58 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> KaZeR: I tried the code, I don't know why it's not working, may be it's working but there's another protection that I don't know.
18:59 #navit: <@KaZeR> nothing's happening ?
18:59 #navit: <@KaZeR> how do you fetch navit's logs? we can try to log some stuffs maybe
18:59 #navit: <@KaZeR> is navit outputing its log directly in a command line terminal or something like that?
19:00 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> This code is supposed to apply the modifications to registry. In fact will make the changes in registry persistent
19:01 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> navit creates a log file. It is also possible to create an empty log file so by this way we can understand that it's 100% working
19:07 #navit: <@KaZeR> yep, that was my intention. what was the path of the log file again? /USER1 something?
19:08 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> Let me check (my memory is terrible)
19:08 #navit: <@KaZeR> mine as well :D
19:09 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> The executable file will be in USB so for the path we can use USB/
19:10 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> By the way, I managed to run 'Total Commander' on my unit :)
19:10 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> After running it, I'm running 'Explorer' and then 'File Manager'
19:11 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> by this way it is possible for me to run executables from USB flash directly
19:11 #navit: <@KaZeR> nice!
19:11 #navit: <@KaZeR> i hope to find a way to do the same of this new device that i got
19:12 #navit: <@KaZeR> http://sd-55475.dedibox.fr/logtest.exe
19:12 #navit: <@KaZeR> should create a file "test.txt" at the root of your usb device
19:12 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> OK. I'll check right now.
19:13 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> By the way, what's the OS on your device 5.0 or 6.0
19:13 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> I'll be back in a minute
19:22 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> I'm back
19:22 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> It's not creating a log file
19:24 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> If the folder/file structure in your device is more or less the same with my device I can send you the files that I'm using
19:28 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> KaZeR: I have another important news for you
19:33 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> I managed to run Navit!!! BUT the result was not good
19:43 #navit: <@KaZeR> AVIC-MRZ02: it's a wince 6 device, i'd be interested in testing your files yeah
19:44 #navit: <@KaZeR> might be a path issue for the creation. I've used '\USB\test.txt' as it seems to be what we saw while debugging the other day
19:44 #navit: <@KaZeR> oh nice! what's not so good?
19:44 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> I think my device is wince 5.0 but most probably files will run on your device
19:45 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> After running file manager, I located navit in a flash and run it from flash
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19:45 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> first I see a yellow screen, then I see the part of the map
19:47 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> but I couldn't manage to see the images on screen for zoom etc.
19:48 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> when I try to see the menu, text of the menu items were there but again there was no images
19:49 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> Also it was not showing my current location (most probably couldn't find GPS antenna)
19:49 #navit: <@KaZeR> ok, it shouldn't be too hard to fix. probably a path issue. can you share the logs? it should tell us where it tried to load the images from
19:50 #navit: <@KaZeR> for the gps we'll have to look into your com ports, just some forensics but it shouldn't be too hard either
19:50 #navit: <@KaZeR> hopefully we can get that picture of navit on your device today :)
19:51 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> I have to run it again, I'm trying a lot of things everyday to fix my 'timezone'.
19:53 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> Which version of Navit do you want me to try?
19:56 #navit: <@KaZeR> the one that you currently have should be fine. i just want to see if it complains about the missing icons
19:56 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> OK
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20:06 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> Here's the LOG https://pastebin.com/J41GeyLA
20:08 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> I can send you the images if you want.
20:15 #navit: <@KaZeR> so line 10 tells us why you don't have the gps signal, but first let's look into the images
20:18 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> I found an application to check COM port, I think it is scanning ports for a signal. That app cannot find any signal when it scans from port 0 to 9.
20:19 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> By the way I'm not sure if this app works without any problem.
20:22 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> KaZeR: I send you the images (how it's look like) of menu screen and navigation screen via e-mail
20:23 #navit: <@KaZeR> ok. imgur is also quite convenient for that :)
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20:27 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> I was not aware of that :). Something like pastebin.
20:35 #navit: <@KaZeR> yep
20:36 #navit: <@KaZeR> got your mail. so yeah basically no images. the images are available on your device, right?
20:37 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> All of the images are available in USB under folder XPM
20:38 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> I'm also running Navit from USB
20:39 #navit: <@KaZeR> okay let's see
20:39 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> But, I located Navit and all other folders in a folder called NAVIT. They are not in the root. Do I have to copy them to the root?
20:40 #navit: <@KaZeR> we should be getting logs like "error:navit:graphics_image_new_scaled_rotated:No image for '/home/pierre/dev/navit/bin/navit/icons/shop_furnish.xpm'" if the file can't be read
20:40 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> On the other hand, it can find the map and also XML file without any problem
20:43 #navit: <@KaZeR> ok try to add a line like this :
20:43 #navit: <@KaZeR> to the debug statements at the beginning of the config
20:48 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> I added it to the very beginning of debug statements (now it is the first debug statement), is it ok?
20:50 #navit: <@KaZeR> yep. the way xml works you could put it pretty much anywhere as long as it's a child of the tag. it's just easier to maintain if we keep them somewhat sorted
20:54 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> Here's the log https://pastebin.com/XWXLDZZA
20:58 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> According to Log, images are loaded and scaled I think.
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21:20 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> KaZeR: I think it's not reading GPS from COM port.
21:21 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> I checked registry values to find out which port it is using
21:22 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> Classically it must be something like " HKLM\Drivers\BuiltIn\GPS_HWCOM, Index, 4 " for COM port 4
21:22 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> But in my registry I don't have something like this, instead there is a path for a folder
21:23 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> The path is NAND/SYSTEM/GPS
21:25 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> I copied the content of this folder. Do you want to see the content (compressed file size is only 59kb)
21:30 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> Here is the content of GPS folder https://mega.nz/#F!RWxUCIqR!RpGOwe955hT6Mnzan3sSFA
21:34 #navit: <@KaZeR> thanks AVIC-MRZ02
21:35 #navit: <@KaZeR> your image issue might be a rendering issue then, which will be a bit more annoying to fix
21:36 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> Probably it's locating the map in front of the images
21:36 #navit: <@KaZeR> you would still have the images in the menu then. also OSD are drawn on top of the map
21:37 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> Yes, you're right
21:37 #navit: <@KaZeR> i don't think that the NAND/SYSTEM/GPS path is what we need. you mentioned having task manager running, are you able to list the running processes ?
21:38 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> I can try to list them, what we are looking for?
21:39 #navit: <@KaZeR> i'm wondering if there is a daemon running to handle the gps
21:39 #navit: <@KaZeR> also, are the files in that GPS folder changing? Hopefully only of them them is changing
21:40 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> I can copy the content of folder again to check if there is any change
21:41 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> I'm going to check the list of processes also
21:41 #navit: <@KaZeR> perfect. we can them compute the checksums using md5
21:54 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> Yes, there is difference between files, these are the new files https://mega.nz/#F!pOhUyZ5L!1ski2f3gspMNbRqKEnKUlQ
21:55 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> Also, I note down the list, let me quickly write the list of executables taken from task manager
21:57 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> And, here's the list of task manager https://pastebin.com/VBR9wJt9
21:59 #navit: <@KaZeR> thanks
22:00 #navit: <@KaZeR> it looks like the wince build is using a libpng lib shipped with navit
22:00 #navit: <@KaZeR> btw : what was the fix to your previous issue with navit and the config parsing? just running navit from USB instead of NAND ?
22:02 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> Now I'm just running it from USB, but before while I was trying to run it from NAND there was a parsing problem
22:04 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> BUT before, while I was running on NAND, I was cancelling it's original navi.exe and using navit instead of navi
22:04 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> NOW, I'm cancelling AV.exe, in order to run 'File Manager'
22:05 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> When the unit is turned on, mainly two apps are running on it one of them is AV and the other one is navi
22:06 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> (AV stands for Audio-Video I think, it's radio, MP3 player etc.)
22:07 #navit: <@KaZeR> i'm still curious about why it works from USB and not from NAND...
22:07 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> Now I'm running 'File Manager' instead of AV.exe and then using file manager I'm running the programs in flash
22:08 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> So, while I'm running navit, navi is also running.
22:08 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> (Two navigation programs are running together)
22:09 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> While we are running it from NAND, it starts parsing to a certain point and stops.
22:11 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> Is it possible to be interrupted by another application?
22:14 #navit: <@KaZeR> that would be weird as no other app should use that file. I still need to write that chunk of code to make sure that we were able to read the config file entirely
22:14 #navit: <@KaZeR> the good news is that your new test shows us that it's not an issue with the ezxml lib, since it parses the file correctly from USB
22:17 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> I seems so.
22:17 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> What do you think about GPS port
22:21 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> And one final thing, that tiny code which calls RegFlush function. Is it possible to create a working executable for it?
22:26 #navit: <@KaZeR> for the gps port, maybe we can find some hints if you poke around the settings of the default nav. it might be visible somwehere there
22:26 #navit: <@KaZeR> i could embed the RegFlush calls in a custom navit.exe for you to test (but otherwise yeah it should be possible to create an exe)
22:29 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> May be that custom navit will not check any file or map but just execute calls and then exit. Is it possible?
22:43 #navit: <@KaZeR> yeah sure
22:44 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> that's perfect
22:46 #navit: <@KaZeR> http://sd-55475.dedibox.fr/navit-flush.exe
22:49 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> Thank you very much KaZeR, I hope this one will work. Now I have to go to sleep. Tomorrow I'll try it and report back.
22:50 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> If it works, it will be possible for me to change every single key of registry ;)
22:51 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> At the end, I will manage to brick this unit :D
22:52 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> Just a last question, do I need to copy any file with navit-flush, or it's alone is enough?
22:53 #navit: <@KaZeR> you're welcome :)
22:54 #navit: <@KaZeR> it's probably best to place it next to your usual navit.exe for now
22:54 #navit: <@KaZeR> i would have to look more into the code to see what's actually needed
22:54 #navit: <@KaZeR> it *might* work as a standalone
22:55 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> OK. I'll try that also.
22:55 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> See you soon KaZeR.
22:55 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> Bye.
22:56 #navit: <@KaZeR> bye!
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