--- Log opened Sun Jan 28 00:00:16 2018 00:28 #navit: < Navit> The following compiles failed: http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/android_armv5te/svn/navit-svn-.failed http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/osm-exp/svn/navit-svn-.failed http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/src/svn/navit-svn-.failed http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/openmoko/svn/navit-svn-.failed http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/win32/svn/navit-svn-.failed http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/n 00:28 #navit: < Navit> oad.navit-project.org/logs/navit/android_armv4t/svn/navit-svn-.failed http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/android_x86/svn/navit-svn-.failed http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/tomtom/svn/navit-svn-.failed 00:28 #navit: < Navit> See compile results history at http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/stats.html 00:45 -!- Horwitz [~mich1@p200300800E236200022268FFFE64E7C4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:58 -!- Horwitz [~mich1@p200300800E601300022268FFFE64E7C4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #navit 00:58 -!- mode/#navit [+o Horwitz] by ChanServ 03:55 -!- nss [b752157b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.183.82.21.123] has joined #navit 03:55 -!- nss [b752157b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.183.82.21.123] has quit [Client Quit] 08:11 #navit: <+jkoan> i hope everything is good :) https://gitlab.com/fdroid/fdroiddata/merge_requests/2855 08:45 -!- Horwitz [~mich1@p200300800E601300022268FFFE64E7C4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 08:48 -!- noradtux [~noradtux@2a02:2028:52b:4a01:ec4:7aff:fe33:3dc1] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:54 -!- noradtux [~noradtux@84.46.2.52] has joined #navit 08:57 -!- Horwitz [~mich1@p200300800E489100022268FFFE64E7C4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #navit 08:57 -!- mode/#navit [+o Horwitz] by ChanServ 09:39 -!- noradtux [~noradtux@84.46.2.52] has quit [Quit: Bye] 10:18 #navit: <+jkoan> KaZeR: could you please take a look at the PR? they dont like TTS_library_stub.jar, i am thinking about if we really need this so we can just skip it. if we really need it we must build it from source, and i cant find sources for it 10:36 -!- noradtux [~noradtux@port-562.pppoe.wtnet.de] has joined #navit 13:08 #navit: <+jkoan> ilovekiruna and KaZeR hope you could review #397 soon :D 13:08 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> jkoan: is it urgent? 13:09 #navit: <+jkoan> would be nice to get new fdroid builds, but it dont need to be in the next hour. 13:31 -!- Mineque [~Mineque@public-gprs206877.centertel.pl] has joined #navit 13:31 #navit: < Mineque> hello guys 13:31 #navit: <+jkoan> hi Mineque 13:31 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> hello Mineque 13:32 #navit: < Mineque> jkoan: how is going with tomotm? 13:34 #navit: <+jkoan> Mineque: i will start the next build in some minutes :D 13:43 -!- xenos1984 [~xenos1984@78-42-145-5.dyn.cable.fcom.ch] has joined #navit 13:43 -!- mode/#navit [+v xenos1984] by ChanServ 13:53 #navit: <+jkoan> in my old build of the updated kernel i probably forgot to enable the right cpu :D 13:54 #navit: <+jkoan> hopfully the new build will be better :) 15:01 #navit: <+jkoan> new kernel seems better than before :D now i have random pixel screen :D 15:26 -!- mvglasow [~mvglasow@ipservice-092-217-012-220.092.217.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined #navit 15:27 #navit: <+jkoan> hi mvglasow 15:27 #navit: < mvglasow> hi jkoan 15:27 #navit: <+jkoan> i like the work on traffic :) 15:28 #navit: < mvglasow> good to know :-) 15:28 #navit: <+jkoan> do you want to tell us your progress ? 15:28 #navit: < mvglasow> sure 15:28 #navit: <+jkoan> :) 15:28 #navit: < mvglasow> map matching works for the standard cases 15:28 #navit: < mvglasow> one point to another on the same road 15:29 #navit: < mvglasow> single point on the road (which gets translated to the nearest segment) 15:30 #navit: < mvglasow> complex stuff may need some improvements: e.g. two locations on a ring road where the obstruction goes the long way round 15:30 #navit: < mvglasow> dumping messages in memory to an XML file is also mostly complete 15:30 #navit: < mvglasow> though we can't read them back in yet... that'll require some more examination of the existing XML parsing code in Navit, to see what can be reused 15:31 #navit: < mvglasow> TMC ramp locations ("ramps at junction 42") don't work yet 15:32 #navit: < mvglasow> route length ("8 km between junctions 41 and 42"/"2 km before junction 44") is also not supported yet 15:32 #navit: < mvglasow> overlapping messages (affecting the same segments) also need to be sorted out 15:33 #navit: < mvglasow> ant then there's another for which I have a question: 15:33 #navit: < mvglasow> *and 15:34 #navit: < mvglasow> as far as I understand, traffic distortions currently have no directionality, i.e. they apply to both directions of a segment (unless the segment is oneway) 15:34 #navit: < mvglasow> though in reality, we will need directional traffic distortions: 15:35 #navit: < mvglasow> there may be a traffic jam in one direction of a single-carriageway road, but not in the other 15:36 #navit: < mvglasow> we should have some logic in place for turn restrictions, which I was thinking of copying 15:36 #navit: < mvglasow> does anyone happen to know how directionality is handled for turn restrictions? 15:37 #navit: < mvglasow> are they always one-way, or do I have to set the oneway flag if I want them to apply to one direction of travel only? 15:37 #navit: <+jkoan> no, i am sorry, i dont have knolage for that :( 15:38 #navit: <+jkoan> *knowledge 15:38 #navit: < mvglasow> too bad :-( anyone else? 15:38 #navit: <+jkoan> probably KaZeR but hes not arround, i am also waiting for him 15:40 #navit: <+jkoan> mvglasow: how much knolage do you have for the android build? 15:42 #navit: < mvglasow> I wouldn't consider myself a guru, but I have built Navit for Android several times (as this is the platform I use it on) 15:42 #navit: < mvglasow> if you have a question, ask and we'll see :-) 15:43 #navit: <+jkoan> whant to look at this PR ? https://github.com/navit-gps/navit/pull/397 15:45 #navit: < mvglasow> looking at it... 15:48 #navit: <+jkoan> thx 15:49 #navit: < mvglasow> I haven't dealt with the speech part in detail, but I see that so far there have been two classes: NavitSpeech and NavitSpeech2 15:49 #navit: < mvglasow> is NavitSpeech still being used at all? 15:50 #navit: <+jkoan> yes, for devices with api lower 4 and this is really really old 15:50 #navit: < mvglasow> in fact 15:50 #navit: < mvglasow> and IIRC I never got speech working on those anyway 15:51 #navit: < mvglasow> 2010'ish, back in the Android on Freerunner days 15:52 #navit: <+jkoan> so you also think it would be no problem? 15:53 #navit: < mvglasow> I have no idea if anyone still uses something as old as that... I am told there are even folks running Navit on Windows CE ;-) 15:54 #navit: <+jkoan> yes, we also have a new user using wince ;) and i also have a test device :D 15:54 #navit: <+jkoan> and we just reintroduced the WinCE build 15:54 #navit: < mvglasow> I still got two of those sitting around, one of which I salvaged the TMC dongle from :-) 15:54 #navit: <+jkoan> nice :D 15:55 #navit: < mvglasow> the main issue is the limited SD card space... 2 GB is way to small to cover my range 15:55 #navit: < mvglasow> anyways... 15:56 #navit: < mvglasow> I'd recommend gathering some more input on the Android speech thing 15:56 #navit: <+jkoan> so waiting for KaZeR :D 15:56 #navit: < mvglasow> is anyone out there still using this? and would it be an issue for them if Navit stopped talking? 15:58 #navit: <+jkoan> alternatively we need to include a own tts lib which is open source into the android build of navit 15:59 #navit: < mvglasow> what's the license for the one we have? package names starting with com.google.* look kinda... not FOSS-friendly 16:00 #navit: <+jkoan> yep 16:00 #navit: <+jkoan> thats the problem 16:00 #navit: <+jkoan> see here: https://gitlab.com/fdroid/fdroiddata/merge_requests/2855 16:01 #navit: <+jkoan> if this path is done we have auto updates on fdroid 16:01 #navit: < mvglasow> that would be very nice 16:02 #navit: <+jkoan> yes! 16:03 #navit: < mvglasow> any chance of getting espeak to work on Android? doesn't sound as nice as Android, but better than nothing 16:04 #navit: <+jkoan> i will see 16:05 #navit: < mvglasow> for F-Droid, we'd just have to make sure we build it from source if we ship it with Navit 16:05 #navit: <+jkoan> but removing it full should also be no big deal since probably nobody uses those old devices 16:05 #navit: < mvglasow> quite likely 16:06 #navit: <+jkoan> so my idea would be to merge it and if someone complains we can fix it 16:07 #navit: < mvglasow> the benefit probably outweighs any potential inconvenience, but we might want to get KaZeR's opinion on this as well 16:09 #navit: <+jkoan> hopefully he will come online soon, i am working on navit related thinks since 9h :D and it all began with that issue of that jar 18:09 -!- Mineque_ [~Mineque@public-gprs206877.centertel.pl] has joined #navit 18:12 -!- Mineque [~Mineque@public-gprs206877.centertel.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:27 -!- AVIC-MRZ02 [b9e3b412@gateway/web/freenode/ip.185.227.180.18] has joined #navit 19:27 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> Hi there 19:28 #navit: <+jkoan> hi AVIC-MRZ02 19:31 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> Hi jkoan :) 19:36 #navit: < Mineque_> hi av 19:36 #navit: < Mineque_> hi AVIC-MRZ02 19:36 -!- Mineque_ is now known as Mineque 19:37 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> Hi Mineque 19:40 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> jkoan: I can run Navit on my head unit from USB-Memory (without GPS, I'm working on it), but the problem is this, I think it's very slow! 19:45 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> jkoan: First I thought that this is because of storage location (USB-Memory), but now I'm not sure. May be the reason is GPS (which is not existing). 19:48 #navit: < AVIC-MRZ02> jkoan: BUT when I run it on my PC (again without GPS), it's running flawlessly. 19:50 -!- Mineque [~Mineque@public-gprs206877.centertel.pl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:54 -!- AVIC-MRZ02 [b9e3b412@gateway/web/freenode/ip.185.227.180.18] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:39 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> jkoan: do you have ideas about how to make split screen in navit? 20:39 #navit: <+jkoan> no :X 20:40 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> I have discussed that recently with KaZeR 20:40 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> do you remember my idea of a zoomed few near roundabouts or road crossings? 20:42 #navit: <+jkoan> yes i know, i also know that multiple views should be supported, but dont know how 21:05 -!- ilovekiruna [~ilovekiru@ip2505a0ef.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:12 -!- ilovekiruna [~ilovekiru@ip2505a0ef.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has joined #navit 21:12 -!- mode/#navit [+v ilovekiruna] by ChanServ 22:37 -!- xenos1984 [~xenos1984@78-42-145-5.dyn.cable.fcom.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:08 -!- mvglasow [~mvglasow@ipservice-092-217-012-220.092.217.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:27 -!- j_f-f [~quassel@rs-7.jff-webhosting.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 23:31 -!- j_f-f [~quassel@rs-7.jff-webhosting.net] has joined #navit 23:35 -!- Mineque [~Mineque@public-gprs206877.centertel.pl] has joined #navit 23:51 -!- Mineque [~Mineque@public-gprs206877.centertel.pl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] --- Log closed Mon Jan 29 00:00:18 2018