--- Log opened Fri Feb 09 00:00:38 2018
00:28 #navit: < Navit> The following compiles failed: http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/android_armv5te/svn/navit-svn-.failed http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/osm-exp/svn/navit-svn-.failed http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/src/svn/navit-svn-.failed http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/openmoko/svn/navit-svn-.failed http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/win32/svn/navit-svn-.failed http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/n
00:28 #navit: < Navit> oad.navit-project.org/logs/navit/android_armv4t/svn/navit-svn-.failed http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/android_x86/svn/navit-svn-.failed http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/tomtom/svn/navit-svn-.failed
00:28 #navit: < Navit> See compile results history at http://download.navit-project.org/logs/navit/stats.html
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14:37 #navit: <+jkoan> Hi guys, hi KaZeR, hi ilovekiruna, hi youte_
14:37 #navit: <+jkoan> What do you think about this : https://preview.c9users.io/jkoan/navit-website/_site/blog.html
14:38 #navit: <+jkoan> It's not finalized but at least it's a own blog on a new website
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17:01 #navit: <@KaZeR> jkoan: it's a good idea, but we need to commit to fill it
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17:57 #navit: < jandegr> hi kazer
17:58 #navit: < jandegr> can you point me to where the binaries from circle end up these days ?
18:27 #navit: <@KaZeR> jandegr: sure. any specific platform?
18:27 #navit: < jandegr> win32
18:29 #navit: <@KaZeR> mmm odd, i was looking at the android build for your last commit, i can see that it uploaded the artifacts, but the artifacts link isn't visible in the ui
18:29 #navit: <@KaZeR> i wonder if it's a bug or if they removed it
18:30 #navit: <@KaZeR> CPack: - package: /root/project/win32/navit.exe generated. 
18:30 #navit: <@KaZeR> but the win32 build is missing the "store_artifacts:" section
18:32 #navit: <@KaZeR> jandegr: can you add the missing store_artifacts? same as wince, but using "win32" as path
18:33 #navit: < jandegr> no idea, a lot has changed since you modified all the CI stuff
18:35 #navit: <@KaZeR> true, we switched to civ2 for a couple of reasons
18:36 #navit: <@KaZeR> here's the win32 build setup : https://github.com/navit-gps/navit/blob/trunk/.circleci/config.yml#L84-L92
18:36 #navit: <+jkoan> KaZeR: what do you mean with "commit to fill"?
18:36 #navit: <@KaZeR> jandegr: here's a sample of the missing block : https://github.com/navit-gps/navit/blob/trunk/.circleci/config.yml#L101-L102 
18:36 #navit: <@KaZeR> if you add a block like this one to the build_win32 job, artifacts will be stored
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18:37 #navit: < Mineque> hi
18:37 #navit: <+jkoan> Hi Mineque
18:37 #navit: <@KaZeR> jkoan: i meant we need to commit to write a post every month or so
18:37 #navit: <@KaZeR> hi Mineque 
18:37 #navit: <+jkoan> Yes, but this is easy (only Markdown)
18:38 #navit: <+jkoan> So in other words you mean we need to publish posts frequently
18:38 #navit: <@KaZeR> jkoan: exactly
18:40 #navit: <+jkoan> What about monthly dev updates? We could make a meeting every month and discuss what needs to be done in the coming months, and what we achieved from the last month. This would give really much input for a post. So the post would be the cleaned log of the meeting
18:41 #navit: < Mineque> jkoan: girls, beer and BBQ?
18:41 #navit: < Mineque> i would finally have motivation to be dev
18:42 #navit: <@KaZeR> Mineque: lol
18:42 #navit: <@KaZeR> jkoan: sounds good
18:42 #navit: <+jkoan> :D you could send a expense to opencollective for that but I don't think it will be paid
18:42 #navit: <+jkoan> KaZeR: what date you suggest?
18:43 #navit: <@KaZeR> jkoan: jandegr's questions are a good reminder that we need to pull our fingers out and finish the artifacts api endpoint :)
18:43 #navit: <@KaZeR> jkoan: first monday of the month?
18:43 #navit: < Mineque> jkoan: blah... newbie, invoice will be for consulting
18:44 #navit: <@KaZeR> Mineque knows the ropes
18:44 #navit: <+jkoan> On Mondays?! Everyone hates Mondays. What about Wednesday 
18:44 #navit: < Mineque> jkoan: maybe every friday 13th ;P
18:45 #navit: <+jkoan> KaZeR: about artifacts endpoint: today I was working on the new website (as you have seen) so probably tomorrow I can find some time to work on this again
18:47 #navit: <+jkoan> KaZeR: BTW what do you think about leaving the artifacts on circleci and only redirect to them? We would also need to store some things like the index but this is not so hard in terms of space
18:48 #navit: <@KaZeR> jkoan: sure, wednesdays work for me too
18:48 #navit: <@KaZeR> jkoan: nice. yeah, definitely we should use circleci's api to find the artifacts, but not host them ourselves
18:48 #navit: < Mineque> KaZeR: is there any roadmap to integrate Qt?
18:48 #navit: <@KaZeR> Mineque: "ASAP" :)
18:49 #navit: <+jkoan> Mineque: not every Friday the 13. But a fixed day of month instead of a weekday would also be good for those who have fixed dates like "sport every Wednesday"
18:49 #navit: <@KaZeR> days of month (like every 5th) are annoying imo, because sometimes it'll be during week-ends 
18:49 #navit: <+jkoan> KaZeR: about the artifacts. I will try to achieve this but can't guarantee :/
18:49 #navit: <@KaZeR> jkoan: i can help
18:49 #navit: < Mineque> i guess best will be to meet to set a day a week before
18:50 #navit: <+jkoan> Mineque: no, the date for the next meeting should be fixed in some way so everyone can plan with it
18:51 #navit: <+jkoan> KaZeR: what's your favorite repo, apt, yum or fdroid?
18:53 #navit: <+jkoan> jandegr: perfect :) (last commit)
18:54 #navit: < jandegr> thx :)
18:54 #navit: <+jkoan> also very interesting work on pgsql
18:54 #navit: <+jkoan> and multi polygons
18:56 #navit: < jandegr> locally I am running the pgsql with multipolygon version now untill somebody comes forward to test/tweak those other graphics drivers
18:57 #navit: < jandegr> kazer prommised to do the qt driver, if I understood correctly :)
18:58 #navit: <+jkoan> what driver are you using
18:58 #navit: <+jkoan> ?
18:59 #navit: < jandegr> android and the very old gtk version
18:59 #navit: <+jkoan> i could do SDL and android as well
19:01 #navit: < jandegr> android was done as a first : https://github.com/navit-gps/navit/commit/a45ceda12a72b039763faa85fd8ef5b62ca370c9
19:01 #navit: <+jkoan> but first i need to do the repo thing :/ this is waiting since ~20.12.17 ^^
19:01 #navit: < jandegr> will try to provide a testmap in the nex few days for anybody wanting to test / tweak any other driver
19:02 #navit: <+jkoan> nice!
19:02 #navit: <@KaZeR> jandegr: awesome!
19:02 #navit: <@KaZeR> jkoan: none of these repo, i use Gentoo and buildroot :D
19:02 #navit: <+jkoan> i know, but of which one do you want to help? :D
19:03 #navit: <@KaZeR> ha! all of them!
19:04 #navit: <+jkoan> yes, but if i do one it would no sense that you do the same work again
19:04 #navit: <+jkoan> so we can work in parallel 
19:10 #navit: < jandegr> kazer I now have navit.exe from CI, but not the installer we used to have and dropped the exe in an existing install and starts but then freezes in some way
19:11 #navit: <+jkoan> jandegr: no nsis ?
19:12 #navit: <@KaZeR> jandegr: can you start it from a command line? 
19:12 #navit: < jandegr> not sure what I should answer, but following the instructions kazer gave about CI gives me the executable instead of the installer we used to have
19:13 #navit: < jandegr> I can start it, 
19:14 #navit: < jandegr> runs deadslow, but just enough so I can see the multipolygons are rendered :)
19:15 #navit: <@KaZeR> jandegr: SCREENSHOT!!!
19:16 #navit: <+jkoan> CAPS!!!!!11
19:16 #navit: <+jkoan> but very interesting this: wine dont like the win32 exe
19:17 #navit: < jandegr> screenshots like these https://github.com/navit-gps/navit/issues/398 ?????
19:17 #navit: < jandegr> or from the semi-frozen win32 one ?
19:17 #navit: <+jkoan> both
19:18 #navit: <+jkoan> both screenshots on the issue are after the pgsql step? could you also make one of the before state?
19:18 #navit: < jandegr> same but lake does not show :)
19:19 #navit: <+jkoan> yes, but to see the progress 
19:19 #navit: <@KaZeR> jandegr: really nice!
19:19 #navit: <@KaZeR> could you share also a screenshot of the same area without your fix ?
19:20 #navit: <+jkoan> KaZeR: that was the same i requested :D
19:22 #navit: < jandegr> will replace the semi-freezer with a working version in 10 minutes, so I can show you some dry land
19:22 #navit: <+jkoan> nice :D
19:23 #navit: <@KaZeR> jandegr: awesome
19:24 #navit: <+jkoan> KaZeR: so on what repo do you want to work?
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19:29 #navit: <@KaZeR> jkoan: we can first work on the api to fetch the builds per platform, and then expand it to push updates to external repos?
19:29 #navit: < jandegr> updated with a dry version https://github.com/navit-gps/navit/issues/398
19:30 #navit: <+jkoan> jandegr: thx 
19:30 #navit: <+jkoan> jandegr: the difference is incredible :O
19:30 #navit: <+jkoan> KaZeR: working on it
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19:31 #navit: <+jkoan> KaZeR: so first a site for manual download of all devices/distros? ;)
19:32 #navit: <@KaZeR> jandegr: if you don't mind i'm going to edit your post to make it more visible
19:33 #navit: < Mineque> is there way to group pois?
19:33 #navit: < jandegr> moment kazer, will post another one in a few secs
19:33 #navit: <@KaZeR> Mineque: yeah, jandegr just need to edit the first post instead of posting in a new comment. that's what i was going to do
19:33 #navit: < Mineque> like on sshots for parking icons overlapping eachother
19:34 #navit: <@KaZeR> jkoan: exactly
19:34 #navit: <@KaZeR> Mineque: currently no, but we'll have to improve the POI display indeed
19:36 #navit: < jandegr> updated, you can now edit whatever you want kazer
19:37 #navit: <@KaZeR> awesome thanks
19:38 #navit: < Mineque> KaZeR: like small digit near to poi icon
19:38 #navit: < Mineque> or overlapping number
19:38 #navit: < Mineque> way the google make with pois
19:42 #navit: <@KaZeR> jandegr: https://twitter.com/NavitProject/status/962051556588666881 
19:43 #navit: <+jkoan> KaZeR: what did i do false? https://circleci.com/docs/api/v1-reference/ so it should be right? https://circleci.com/api/v1/project/github/navit-gps/navit/last/artifacts
19:45 #navit: < jandegr> 7 is a devine number, have a track ticket open for multipolygons for 7 years or I work on it for seven weeks and kazer reposts on twitter in 7 seconds
19:46 #navit: <+jkoan> KaZeR: okay, have it
19:49 #navit: <+jkoan> okay, the api does not like me... general informations are working but non of artifacts
19:49 #navit: <@KaZeR> jandegr: lol
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19:50 #navit: <+jkoan> KaZeR: ignore my last comments, also artifacts are working :D
19:53 #navit: <@KaZeR> ok :) i was about to share some code i use for another project : https://pastebin.com/Ts4T44MX 
19:54 #navit: <@KaZeR> it acts like a proxy : you request the package against this webservice and it redirects you to the lastest build, transparently
19:55 #navit: <+jkoan> this would not alwasy work for us as each device has its own build number ;)
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19:58 #navit: <@KaZeR> jkoan: true, it was intended to serve as a simple example of using the api and redirecting :)
20:23 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> jkoan: r u aware that the donate link is broken?
20:23 #navit: <+jkoan> ilovekiruna: from what, the new site?
20:24 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> I like the idea of a meeting, just wondering if we can fix a good time with all our timezones
20:24 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> jkoan: yes
20:24 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> also contact us gives me 404
20:24 #navit: <+jkoan> on which site is it broken?
20:25 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> https://preview.c9users.io/jkoan/navit-website/_site/download.html
20:25 #navit: <+jkoan> oh yes, i know, its bracuase i dont finished the template for both :D
20:28 #navit: <@KaZeR> jkoan: you know that you can edit the site directly on github and that it'll get served via the github pages
20:28 #navit: <+jkoan> yes
20:29 #navit: <+jkoan> but i rework it so much that i dont want to commit every step, but in future this could be how we write articles ;)
20:35 #navit: <@KaZeR> sounds good
20:36 #navit: <@KaZeR> i've used the blog thing from github also, it's quite good
20:37 #navit: <+jkoan> my website jkoan.de basically uses the same as github pages but i dont want my personal website on a github repo (dont ask why)
20:42 #navit: <@KaZeR> why?
20:42 #navit: <@KaZeR> :)
20:57 #navit: <+jkoan> for reasons :P
21:12 #navit: <+jkoan> KaZeR: I have a idea how the first version of the new "Download Center" could work:
21:12 #navit: <+jkoan> First of all we add a new step after the artifact upload which update another repo (probably navit-download-center") wich holds all the artifact metadata. 
21:12 #navit: <+jkoan> To do so we can download the metadata of the currently running build like shown here: https://github.com/jkoan/test/blob/master/.circleci/config.yml
21:12 #navit: <+jkoan> This data could probably be reorganised and pushed to the _data folder of the download repo, there the data could been used for a nice download page made with jekyll https://jekyllrb.com/docs/datafiles/
21:16 #navit: <+jkoan> And if we need additional metadata we could also add this data in the _data folder while building
22:00 #navit: <@KaZeR> jkoan: sounds good
22:15 #navit: <+jkoan> KaZeR: do you want to build the website gui? My idea would be a main page where all devices and distributions are listed with a sub site with all builds for the specific target. The sub site would probably be a table(?)
22:16 #navit: <+jkoan> A little bit like the download page from lineageos
22:17 #navit: <+jkoan> https://download.lineageos.org/addison like this as sub site
22:24 #navit: <@KaZeR> this looks nice, but i think that it would be nice also to have one page that lists the most recent build for all platforms
22:24 #navit: <@KaZeR> and from there a detailed page with all builds per platforms. makes sense?
22:28 #navit: <+jkoan> Yes so the main page has the most recent build and the like to the detail page (sub site)
22:41 #navit: <@KaZeR> yep, perfect
22:43 #navit: <+jkoan> So you make the html and I try to. Build the logic tomorrow?
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23:13 #navit: <@KaZeR> i probably won't be online much this week-end
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