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17:30 #navit: <@KaZeR> hi there
17:31 #navit: <+jkoan> hi KaZeR
17:31 #navit: <@KaZeR> 'sup jkoan ?
17:31 #navit: <+jkoan> buildroot for tomtom ;)
17:34 #navit: <@KaZeR> nice!
17:34 #navit: <@KaZeR> what are you using for the navit package?
17:35 #navit: <+jkoan> first i need th get the kernel running which is the main problem right now
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17:44 #navit: <@KaZeR> ah, i see. i told you that i have a navit package for buildroot, right?
17:44 #navit: <+jkoan> yes, and i also want to adapt the buildroot thing for navit :) so that we can build more cool images
17:47 #navit: <@KaZeR> ok great
17:50 #navit: <+jkoan> KaZeR: http://legacy.navit-project.org/ 
18:07 #navit: <@KaZeR> right, i need to fix that. thanks for reminding me :)
18:09 #navit: <+jkoan> in the best case its only one line to change :D
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18:26 #navit: <@KaZeR> indeed. we also need to fix https://circleci.com/gh/jkoan/navit/967
18:28 #navit: <+jkoan> already done: https://circleci.com/gh/jkoan/navit/981
18:29 #navit: <+jkoan> on github it also shows that all checks passed :D
18:39 #navit: <@KaZeR> wtf
18:39 #navit: <+jkoan> forgot to reload? ^^
18:40 #navit: <@KaZeR> i did reload.. it's green now after re-reloading. thanks!
18:40 #navit: <+jkoan> :D
18:41 #navit: <+jkoan> CTRL+F5 will lean Cache and reload (at least in firefox)
18:44 #navit: <+jkoan> KaZeR: we defenetly need to look into this: https://github.com/george-hopkins/opentom/issues/29 i got the same issue some time ago (on opentom)
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19:09 #navit: <+jkoan> KaZeR: i this we spoke about a osd and gui api some time ago, is this right? Like in app download thing where you download the osd and activate it directly.
19:39 #navit: <@KaZeR> jkoan: absolutely
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20:32 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> hi jkoan, hi kazer
20:32 #navit: < youte> hi ilovekiruna
20:32 #navit: <+jkoan> hi ilovekiruna
20:32 #navit: <+jkoan> hi youte
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20:32 #navit: <+youte> hi jkoan
21:05 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> hi youte
21:08 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> just to be curious, does anybody know, who all is a core contributor on opencollective?
21:08 #navit: <+jkoan> i think only KaZeR
21:09 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> jkoan: core contributors dont pay
21:09 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> but rather are administrators and can approve expenses for example
21:09 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> considering paying, it is me and KaZeR, more or less
21:10 #navit: <+jkoan> i think KaZeR generated the collective for navit. Does that answers the question?
21:10 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> not really, right now I see five users, but some minutes ago it said 11 more
21:12 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> right now I see KaZeR, jandegr, mvglasow, Manuel Hohmann and Wildemann
21:13 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> ah metalstrolch I mean last ;-)
21:14 #navit: <+jkoan> but i think dont have anythink to do with the collective
21:16 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> u know for me not too overly important, but am curious, as always ;-)
21:16 #navit: <+jkoan> KaZeR: about the layouts thing: what about defining a format how users can summit layouts (PR) to this repo: https://github.com/navit-gps/layouts and we can use jekyll again to generate something like a json or xml api and also a web frontend
21:17 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> jkoan: should I then also submit mine?
21:17 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> but i have it already in an own repo
21:17 #navit: <+jkoan> not for now. its only i proof of idea
21:18 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> ok
21:43 #navit: <@KaZeR> jkoan: yep it was kind of the idea behind https://github.com/pgrandin/navit-nuc-layout
21:44 #navit: <@KaZeR> ilovekiruna: i think it'll be interesting to actually start sharing and centralizing layouts and osd. first it'll help define guidelines about where to put files and how to name them
21:44 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> KaZeR: would be great
21:45 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> KaZeR: have you seen my question on collective?
21:47 #navit: <@KaZeR> core contributor i believe is people who have write access to the repo iirc
21:47 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> can u see the complete list?
21:47 #navit: <+jkoan> Okay, KaZeR i would like to do the management of the repo for this (with jekyll / github pages) then I will write the api and we can implement the downloader plugin in navit
21:48 #navit: <+jkoan> ilovekiruna: could you please send me the link to your repo? Then I will look into it tomorrow and use it as a first test input
21:49 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> jkoan: https://github.com/hoehnp/navit-layout
21:49 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> it is still WiP, btw
21:49 #navit: <+jkoan> No problem
21:51 #navit: <@KaZeR> ilovekiruna: they changed the website. there use to be a "brought to you by" page with all the contributors
21:51 #navit: <@KaZeR> looks like they only display 5 now, but i don't know how the pick them
21:52 #navit: <@KaZeR> ilovekiruna: it's missing a screenshot, for sure ;)
21:52 #navit: <@KaZeR> jkoan: thanks for helping on this!
21:52 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> KaZeR: just earlier today it showed 9 additional users
21:52 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> but no clue who they would be, I hoped u as an administator could see
21:53 #navit: <@KaZeR> yeah it used to show pretty much everybody who contributed to the github repo i believe
21:53 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> I have never been that, I believe
21:56 #navit: <@KaZeR> it's easy to change :)
21:57 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> I mean an administrator on opencollective
21:57 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> write access to github repo I have and already contributed ;-)
21:58 #navit: <@KaZeR> ha! (i know that most of the time you submit PR from your own fork)
21:59 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> but I also merge some :D
21:59 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> myself
21:59 #navit: <@KaZeR> i can make you an admin if you wish, but we might want to look into alternatives. Did you fill the paperwork ?
21:59 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> I dont require it now, was just more curious
21:59 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> right now am still in touch with Pia
22:00 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> I cant change my expense
22:00 #navit: <@KaZeR> ok
22:34 #navit: <@KaZeR> random question. What kind of keyboard are you guys using? I'm getting pissed at mine
22:34 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> hardware or keyboard layout?
22:34 #navit: <@KaZeR> hardware yeah
22:35 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> there can comment much, am mostly at home on a laptop keyboar
22:35 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> d
22:35 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> built in
22:35 #navit: <@KaZeR> ok thanks :)
22:36 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> at work I hv to check, honestly
22:36 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> never paid so much attention to it
22:36 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> what is pissing you off?
22:37 #navit: <@KaZeR> right now i have a logitech k520. it's a piece of crap. It's flimsy, and sometimes keys get stuck. It's not even 1 year old
22:37 #navit: <@KaZeR> i used to have a Corsair mechanical, this was so much better
22:38 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> u use wireless?
22:41 #navit: <@KaZeR> yeah i wanted a clean desk
22:42 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> i dont like wireless
22:42 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> dont like the idea of people incepting all you type
22:48 #navit: <@KaZeR> makes sense, although good keyboards use aes encryption
22:48 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> are there really good ones?
22:52 #navit: <@KaZeR> as often it boils down to a question of price :)
22:52 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> a friend of mine was always fancy on keyboards
22:55 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> sth like this: https://www.kinesis-ergo.com/shop/advantage2/
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23:19 #navit: <@KaZeR> ha yeah a former colleague used to have that :)
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23:28 #navit: <@KaZeR> holly shit 350e
23:28 #navit: <@KaZeR> i could have got one for free last year but i was like "nah!"
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