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14:24 #navit: < aerostitch> Hi guys
14:24 #navit: < aerostitch> online for a few mins I was checking the irc logs and am currently reading about the ubuntu issue
14:26 #navit: < aerostitch> before leaving home I put the final touch to the Debian package and pini was about to upload it but he noticed his gpg key was expired so he has to wait for begining of July to get his new key uploaded in the Debian Keyring
14:26 #navit: < aerostitch> but if needed I can provide the 0.5.1 debian binary package for amd64
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15:08 #navit: <@KaZeR> thanks aerostitch!
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15:49 #navit: <@Number6> Did someone here send me a LinkedIn request? :-o
16:40 #navit: <@KaZeR> Number6: not me, we're already connected. Want to share the name in a private message? Maybe I will know who this is
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17:07 #navit: <@Number6> I think it might be a random person
17:11 #navit: <@KaZeR> kk
17:32 #navit: <+ilovekiruna>  hi KaZeR, hi Number6
17:35 #navit: <@Number6> hi ilovekiruna 
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18:09 #navit: < mvglasow> hi all
18:25 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> hi mvglasow
18:25 #navit: < mvglasow> hi ilovekiruna
18:26 #navit: < mvglasow> do you happen to know anything about building for WinCE? or anyone else maybe?
18:27 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> mvglasow: not my call, unfortunately
18:27 #navit: < mvglasow> too bad
19:07 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> if for any, I could try linux, sailfish or a tiny bit android
19:08 #navit: < mvglasow> well, it's about a specific issue with the WinCE build
19:08 #navit: < mvglasow> I introduced some changes which seem to break the WinCE build
19:29 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> bummer
19:41 #navit: <@KaZeR> mvglasow: i *might* be able to help. What's going on?
19:41 #navit: < mvglasow> I introduced a function prototype into util.h which returns time_t
19:41 #navit: < mvglasow> and CircleCI flags that as an error
19:42 #navit: < mvglasow> I've tried explicitly including time.h in util.h,but to no avail
19:42 #navit: <+jkoan> mvglasow: should i test something on wince?
19:43 #navit: < mvglasow> the link to CircleCI is here: https://circleci.com/gh/navit-gps/navit/9825
19:43 #navit: < mvglasow> jkoan any help is appreciated
19:44 #navit: < mvglasow> first things first: is time_t supported on WinCE at all?
19:44 #navit: <+jkoan> i have one or two wince devices here, but i dont have time today to test anything
19:45 #navit: < mvglasow> jkoan there's probably no need to test anything on a real device
19:45 #navit: <+jkoan> i dont know about the wince programming, i only have some devices for tests
19:45 #navit: < mvglasow> it's mostly about getting the build to finish correctly
19:45 #navit: <+jkoan> sorry :(
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19:48 #navit: <+jkoan> ilovekiruna: we should start with the device farm :D
19:49 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> jkoan: totally agreed
19:50 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> but first i would like to finish one feature i am on these days
19:50 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> if u dont mind
19:51 #navit: <+jkoan> i dont have time this week anyway :/ but i will try to come up with ideas how we can do it
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19:52 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> great :D
19:56 #navit: < mvglasow> oh... hang on a sec, thhe CircleCI link I sent is not for the current build... we'll have to wait a bit for the current one to finish
19:58 #navit: <@KaZeR> mvglasow: yep this one is for the "\n" change :)
19:58 #navit: <@KaZeR> https://github.com/navit-gps/navit/compare/1aeb4c46f0f1...8cb84cee8b1b is definitely lacking the include time.h
19:58 #navit: < mvglasow> yeah, I just noticed
19:58 #navit: < mvglasow> just need to wait for CI to do its job
19:58 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> jkoan: I hope starting from in the week after the coming week I will be free to think about the device farm
19:59 #navit: < mvglasow> anyways, there's good news: re-routing upon receiving new traffic reports now works, and it takes a fraction of the time of the initial route calculation
20:00 #navit: < mvglasow> and the underlying changes would enable a couple of other interesting things
20:01 #navit: <@KaZeR> mvglasow: nice! this should also improve re-routing when the user misses a turn or something like that
20:02 #navit: < mvglasow> we'd still have to tell Navit to do a partial recalculation, but yes, this code would enable it
20:03 #navit: < mvglasow> also, instead of first building a route graph based on some map rects and then flooding it...
20:03 #navit: < mvglasow> ...we could start of with a small rect around the destination and load segments from the map as we go
20:04 #navit: < mvglasow> which would eliminate a long-standing issue with Navit not finding long routes if they use primary (or lower-grade) roads
20:04 #navit: < mvglasow> we'd have to see how that performs, though
20:06 #navit: <@KaZeR> interesting
20:06 #navit: < mvglasow> btw, the wince build now seems OK, thanks for your help
20:07 #navit: <@Number6> Oh WinCE works? Gotta see the circle job def
20:07 #navit: <@Number6> I gave up on that because of fiddly magic
20:19 #navit: < mvglasow> Number6 the wince build is here: https://circleci.com/gh/navit-gps/navit/9831
20:19 #navit: < mvglasow> though all I did was fix a bug I had introduced in my own branch earlier
20:26 #navit: <@Number6> :-o
20:26 #navit: <@Number6> I spent so long trying to get it working, your way is so much simpler than the mess I had
20:26 #navit: <@KaZeR> Number6: the build was fixed by reverting to an older ubuntu image, where the required binaries are available in a version that plays nicely with cegcc
20:27 #navit: <@Number6> ahhhhh
20:27 #navit: <@KaZeR> not optimal, but works
20:27 #navit: <@Number6> Yeah, Mingw was what caught me out.
20:27 #navit: <@KaZeR> Number6: https://github.com/navit-gps/Dockerfiles/blob/master/wince/Dockerfile 
20:27 #navit: <@Number6> Well... the requirements for ming
20:28 #navit: <@Number6> ah!
20:28 #navit: <@KaZeR> yeah, i tried to build it with updated deps too, it was a fricking nightmare
20:29 #navit: <@Number6> To be fair, WinCE isn't really used any more so I can understand why the cross compiler hasn't been updated
20:29 #navit: <@Number6> Navit is the only project I know of that still compiles for WinCE :-D
20:30 #navit: <@KaZeR> never give up, never surrender
20:31 #navit: <@Number6> :-)
20:42 #navit: < mvglasow> KaZeR: I saw in the chat logs that there was discussion about moving to Gitlab, and you mentioned that this might affect SEO
20:42 #navit: < mvglasow> can you elaborate on that?
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