--- Log opened Thu Aug 02 00:00:42 2018 00:51 -!- Horwitz [~mich1@p200300800E0F3800022268FFFE64E7C4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 01:05 -!- Horwitz [~mich1@p200300800E0FE400022268FFFE64E7C4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #navit 01:05 -!- mode/#navit [+o Horwitz] by ChanServ 03:54 -!- xenos1984 [~xenos1984@22-164-191-90.dyn.estpak.ee] has joined #navit 03:54 -!- mode/#navit [+v xenos1984] by ChanServ 05:09 -!- noradtux [~noradtux@port-79142.pppoe.wtnet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 06:06 -!- naggety [~naggety@171.red-2-141-14.dynamicip.rima-tde.net] has joined #navit 07:35 -!- Millesimus [~Millesimu@serenity.pestnagel.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 07:37 -!- Millesimus [~Millesimu@serenity.pestnagel.org] has joined #navit 08:58 -!- naggety [~naggety@171.red-2-141-14.dynamicip.rima-tde.net] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 08:58 -!- naggety [~naggety@171.red-2-141-14.dynamicip.rima-tde.net] has joined #navit 09:00 -!- naggety [~naggety@171.red-2-141-14.dynamicip.rima-tde.net] has quit [Client Quit] 09:01 -!- naggety [~naggety@171.red-2-141-14.dynamicip.rima-tde.net] has joined #navit 10:54 -!- jjardon [sid723@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tdntndebcaoykphi] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:48 -!- naggety [~naggety@171.red-2-141-14.dynamicip.rima-tde.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:49 -!- naggety [~naggety@244.red-95-125-55.dynamicip.rima-tde.net] has joined #navit 14:00 -!- naggety [~naggety@244.red-95-125-55.dynamicip.rima-tde.net] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 17:16 #navit: <@KaZeR> i there 17:16 #navit: <@KaZeR> *hi 17:17 #navit: <+jkoan> hi KaZeR 17:17 #navit: <+jkoan> whats up? 17:26 #navit: <@KaZeR> not much. Slammed with work lately. You? 17:27 #navit: <+jkoan> working on navittom again, but without buildroot (buildroot is so annoying on 2.6 kernel) 17:30 #navit: <@KaZeR> what was your issue with buildroot again? 17:32 #navit: <+jkoan> if i use a up to date kernel i dont get fb working and dont ave any debug output (no serial console) and if i use the old 2.6 kernel i dont getting it compiled because the toolchain it to new (features where added in current versions which the kernel does not like 17:34 #navit: <@KaZeR> are you using buildroot to build the full image or only the kernel? 17:34 #navit: <@KaZeR> crap 2.6 is really old 17:35 #navit: <+jkoan> the whole image, but the kernel is the problem 17:47 #navit: <+jkoan> currently i am about to setup navittom so it boots from ttsystem (initramfs) monts the second partition on the sdcard and searches for gltt (on tomtom one XL) if the file is not there it searches on the first partition where the fat file system is located (also holds the ttsystem file). If nowhere gltt is found it unmounts everything and promotes the user to insert the original sd card. After finding and mounting the card it extracts the 17:47 #navit: <+jkoan> ttsystem and searches for the gllt binary. If this is found gltt is copied into ram and the user is promoted to insert the navit sdcard again. After that the gllt binary is stored on the sd card on the second partition and the system switches the root to free the ram taken by the initramfs and boots from second partition. Navits and gltt are stated and the user can route as normal 17:49 #navit: <+jkoan> with the old enviroment this seems to be working if i enabled fb console and telnetd 18:03 #navit: <+jkoan> KaZeR: if i remember right qt can directly write to fb? then if would be cool to get navit on qt on tomtom running :D 18:59 #navit: <@KaZeR> jkoan: oh wow it seems really tricky 19:00 #navit: <@KaZeR> yeah, qt can use the fb directly. That's how i run navit on my rpis, no X 19:00 #navit: <+jkoan> sounds interesting :D 19:01 #navit: <+jkoan> so we need to try to build qt on kernel 2.6 :D 19:02 #navit: <@KaZeR> it is. boots super fast, no mode switch (so no screen flickering, etc) 19:02 #navit: <@KaZeR> well qt isn't kernel dependant.. but still running on 2.6 sucks as most of the userland tools will be outdated 19:02 #navit: <@KaZeR> udev and co 19:02 #navit: <+jkoan> yes 19:04 #navit: <+jkoan> but on udev is not needed anyway on the tomtom because we dont have user ports 19:23 #navit: <@KaZeR> user ports? 19:23 #navit: <+jkoan> dont know right now, firtst i want to make sure the boot works with switch_root 19:25 #navit: <@KaZeR> would getting another device with a serial console help your troubleshooting? 19:27 #navit: <+jkoan> currently its okay how it is ;) also i dont know if there is a good device with serial interface anyway 19:28 #navit: <@KaZeR> ok. we have a few bucks set aside in opencollective. If you find a device that would be a good fit for your tests, i think that this could work 19:29 #navit: <+jkoan> yeah, but i already have 3 tomtom devices ^^ 19:30 #navit: <@KaZeR> and no serial ports on any? damn it 19:31 #navit: <+jkoan> on the first 2 i could not find some, and i will not take the 3. apart 19:32 #navit: <@KaZeR> why not? 19:32 #navit: <@KaZeR> :) 19:33 #navit: <+jkoan> because its only apparently mine 19:38 #navit: <@KaZeR> you mean it belongs to someone else? 19:42 -!- zintor [50bb6060@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.187.96.96] has joined #navit 19:42 #navit: < zintor> hi @all 19:45 -!- xenos1984 [~xenos1984@22-164-191-90.dyn.estpak.ee] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:46 -!- zintor [50bb6060@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.187.96.96] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:54 -!- zintor [50bb6d2a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.187.109.42] has joined #navit 19:54 #navit: < zintor> re 19:54 #navit: <+jkoan> hi zintor 19:54 #navit: < zintor> hi jkoan 19:54 #navit: <+jkoan> KaZeR: yes 19:55 #navit: < zintor> KaZeR: I wrote you a pm on the forum, because I was not able to join the chat 19:55 #navit: < zintor> but I was successful on registering my nick as you can see ;) 19:56 #navit: < zintor> another issue: I am not able to built navit on a fresh ubuntu 18.04 in a virtualbox environment 19:57 #navit: < zintor> for now I just installed git and cmake 19:57 #navit: <+jkoan> yay zintor will always be zintor :D 19:57 #navit: < zintor> are the minimum requirements on https://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/Ubuntu_dependencies also the current ones? 19:58 #navit: < zintor> yeah \o/ 19:58 #navit: <+jkoan> zintor: take a look into scripts/setup_common_requirements.sh ;) 19:58 #navit: < zintor> k 20:05 #navit: < zintor> well, also noct working :( 20:09 #navit: < zintor> the output: https://pastebin.com/SZJ7eb5s 20:11 #navit: <+jkoan> you probably missed the second step? it would compile but without any graphics 20:11 #navit: <+jkoan> for graphics you need to also run: apt-get install -y libpng12-dev libfreetype6-dev libdbus-glib-1-dev libgtk2.0-dev curl 20:12 #navit: <+jkoan> this would be for gtk 20:12 #navit: < zintor> douh 20:12 #navit: < zintor> I wrote nothing! 20:12 #navit: < zintor> how do I erase the log! 20:12 #navit: < zintor> fast! 20:12 #navit: < zintor> now! 20:13 #navit: <+jkoan> https://pastebin.com/delete/SZJ7eb5s 20:13 #navit: <+jkoan> top of the paste 20:14 #navit: < zintor> ^^ just joking ;) all fine 20:14 #navit: <@KaZeR> :) 20:15 #navit: < zintor> but I got another error :( 20:15 #navit: < zintor> https://pastebin.com/fwnvw5kJ 20:16 #navit: <+jkoan> hm i donkt know why :D 20:16 #navit: <+jkoan> *dont 20:16 #navit: <@KaZeR> that's new for sure 20:17 #navit: <@KaZeR> zintor: 64bits install, right? 20:17 #navit: < zintor> yeep 20:17 #navit: <@KaZeR> you can disable building the sample map if you don't need it btw 20:17 #navit: < zintor> how? 20:18 #navit: < zintor> --disable-samplemap 20:19 #navit: <@KaZeR> cmake -L will list the available options 20:19 #navit: <+jkoan> KaZeR: do you think we can start navit as init process (pid 1) ? ^^ 20:19 #navit: <@KaZeR> cmake .. -L|grep -i sample returns SAMPLE_MAP:BOOL=TRUE 20:19 #navit: <@KaZeR> so : cmake -D SAMPLE_MAP=FALSE .. 20:20 #navit: <@KaZeR> jkoan: technically you can start any executable as init. But i'm not sure that it would be wise to do so 20:20 #navit: <@KaZeR> init takes care of a LOT of things 20:22 #navit: <+jkoan> yes, but i start from initramfs and do a switch_root which could be qt with navit only :D 20:23 #navit: < zintor> compiling worked 20:23 #navit: < zintor> but 20:24 #navit: < zintor> Speicherzugriffsfehler (Speicherabzug geschrieben) 20:24 #navit: <@KaZeR> jkoan: could work, but not convinced that it would be better than starting navit from inittab or a service script 20:24 #navit: < zintor> 64 Bit issue? 20:24 #navit: <@KaZeR> segfault? 20:25 #navit: <@KaZeR> running which task? 20:25 #navit: < zintor> segfault 20:25 #navit: < zintor> navit 20:29 #navit: <@KaZeR> can you run it against gdb ? 20:30 #navit: < zintor> can't remember how to do, just compiling again. just for sure 20:31 #navit: < zintor> again segfault 20:33 #navit: < zintor> unfortunately have to go to sleep 20:33 #navit: <@KaZeR> ping me next time you're available 20:33 #navit: < zintor> https://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/Troubleshooting 20:34 #navit: <@KaZeR> but basically if you install gdb you'll get a stack trace that will tell us more about the issue 20:34 #navit: <@KaZeR> and i can guide you through an interactive session 20:34 #navit: < zintor> is it just gdb ./navit? 20:34 #navit: <@KaZeR> pretty much yeah 20:34 #navit: <@KaZeR> then `run` 20:35 #navit: <@KaZeR> once it crashed, `bt` (back trace) 20:35 #navit: <@KaZeR> and you'll have the info we need 20:36 #navit: < zintor> without "bt": https://pastebin.com/7DiSpDJB 20:38 #navit: < zintor> with bt 20:38 #navit: < zintor> https://pastebin.com/HFYZXsmn 20:39 #navit: < zintor> well..time to go...sry 20:39 #navit: < zintor> cya all 20:39 #navit: < zintor> quit 20:39 -!- zintor [50bb6d2a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.187.109.42] has quit [] 20:40 #navit: <@KaZeR> looks like zintor's using the shipped glib and that this is failing 20:40 #navit: <@KaZeR> installing glib-devel should fix the issue and we need to look into why this one is failing, and possibly update it 20:44 -!- ilovekiruna [~ilovekiru@2a02:8108:d00:110:d96c:93f4:8be1:474b] has joined #navit 20:44 -!- mode/#navit [+v ilovekiruna] by ChanServ 22:01 -!- xenos1984 [~xenos1984@22-164-191-90.dyn.estpak.ee] has joined #navit 22:01 -!- mode/#navit [+v xenos1984] by ChanServ --- Log closed Fri Aug 03 00:00:44 2018