--- Log opened Wed Aug 15 00:00:05 2018 05:01 -!- xenos1984 [~xenos1984@2001:bb8:2002:200:6651:6ff:fe53:a120] has joined #navit 05:01 -!- mode/#navit [+v xenos1984] by ChanServ 11:20 #navit: <+jkoan> KaZeR: did you merged last trunk? i made a change directly to it, so the build works again. In fact the mentioned build was cancelled ;) 12:40 -!- Mapmapper_ [b2088ebf@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.8.142.191] has joined #navit 12:41 #navit: < Mapmapper_> Hello, Im Mapmapper from navit forum. I wrote a Java program wich solve multipolygones from landuses, lakes etc. 12:42 #navit: <+jkoan> hi Mapmapper_ 12:42 #navit: <+jkoan> could you send me a link from the thread, i dont read the forum frequently 12:43 #navit: < Mapmapper_> Hi jkoan! My idea is, to make navit maps with it an make a website with it. Would this supported by the team (links to the website)? 12:44 #navit: <+jkoan> do you mean basically the same as http://maps3.navit-project.org/ ? 12:49 #navit: < Mapmapper_> Yes, but without free changeable borders. Fixed areas 12:50 #navit: < Mapmapper_> Link for my program Im searching, because its long time ago, but there was no reaction 12:55 #navit: <+jkoan> one moment, is the multi pylogon issue the same as this one: https://github.com/navit-gps/navit/issues/398 ? 12:55 #navit: < Mapmapper_> https://forum.navit-project.org/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=442 12:57 #navit: < Mapmapper_> It was 2013. Now a made it a bit better, can reduce now outer way of multipolygones, if they have more than 65000 nodes, what navit maptool not allow 12:57 #navit: < Mapmapper_> https://forum.navit-project.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=729 12:58 #navit: <+jkoan> did you see my last message? 12:58 #navit: < Mapmapper_> Yes. I did the same, but independend of this in github 13:00 #navit: <+jkoan> but this one is dont directly in c so its a bit better integrated ? :D 13:02 #navit: < Mapmapper_> But its not in navit integrated. Where is this program? 13:04 #navit: < Mapmapper_> Not yet integrated I mean 13:05 #navit: <+jkoan> he linked everything in the github thread, but yes, its not finished 13:10 #navit: < Mapmapper_> There seems to be some Java-code, too. And with psql pgsimple database. I have only Java. And it works with all landuses, lakes,rivers and nature_reserve-borders. 13:10 #navit: <+jkoan> The java code is only the correction of the drawing algorithms 13:13 #navit: < Mapmapper_> Ok And how to run this program? I dont understand it and github not, too. I could make ready maps. 13:14 #navit: <+jkoan> i think the fix is currently only implemented for the processing of maps via the postgress database variant 13:17 #navit: < Mapmapper_> It seems that there is use of special postgress commands. Difficult to use. You need to know postgress 13:18 #navit: <+jkoan> i think thers a guide on the wiki, but currently i dont know 13:18 #navit: <+jkoan> i am not in enought in maptool :X 13:21 #navit: < Mapmapper_> Ok. But question is, would may website supported? And how could I bring my program to github? 13:22 #navit: < Mapmapper_> Not may, my 13:23 #navit: <+jkoan> i think we also want to rewrite tha map download website, so probably we can work together, but i think we want to keep the dynamic borders 13:29 -!- xenos1984 [~xenos1984@2001:bb8:2002:200:6651:6ff:fe53:a120] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 13:33 -!- Mapmapper_ [b2088ebf@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.8.142.191] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:37 -!- Mapmapper [b2088ebf@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.8.142.191] has joined #navit 13:38 #navit: < Mapmapper> Was interrupted from irc 13:38 #navit: <+jkoan> I’ve seen, you missed nothing 13:39 #navit: < Mapmapper> My program is not useful for it, because it need a lot of memory to be fast enough. And is limited to around 3 Gigabytes of osm-Data 13:39 #navit: < Mapmapper> ok 13:41 #navit: < Mapmapper> I use data structures like arrays. alps-region from Geofabrik I can resolve. Perhaps a bit more 13:41 #navit: <+jkoan> do you have your tool somewhere online/open source? 13:42 #navit: < Mapmapper> open source yes. Its is in Multipolygone.jar. Can you open this compressed file? 13:42 #navit: < Mapmapper> https://c.gmx.net/@608764925740848608/5Spze9L8RJiB7twzclA82A 13:43 #navit: < Mapmapper> Its a kind of cloud 13:43 #navit: <+jkoan> i am eaning the sources :O 13:43 #navit: <+jkoan> *meaning 13:43 #navit: < Mapmapper> Source code has ending *.java 13:44 #navit: < Mapmapper> Inside the jar-Archiv 13:44 #navit: <+jkoan> ahhh 13:44 #navit: <+jkoan> ah deutsch :D 13:45 #navit: < Mapmapper> yes 13:46 #navit: <+jkoan> your programm is processing osm data and outputs osm as well? 13:47 #navit: < Mapmapper> Yes. But the resolved multipolygones are as ways in the new file 13:47 #navit: < Mapmapper> added 13:48 #navit: <+jkoan> ways=streets? 13:49 #navit: < Mapmapper> No, in osm are nodes, ways, relations. way is only a polygone 13:49 #navit: < Mapmapper> The tags to the way show, what the polygone really is 13:50 #navit: < Mapmapper> Could be street or landuse etc 13:51 #navit: < Mapmapper> Multipolygones are relations (between polygones and somtimes nodes) 13:51 #navit: <+jkoan> yes, but now i try to understand what the difference between the input and the output would be 13:53 #navit: < Mapmapper> I resolve the multiples ways of a multipolygone to a single polygone (way), add this to the input file->output-file 13:54 #navit: <+jkoan> so split one multipolygon to 2 single poly? 13:56 #navit: < Mapmapper> No. The multipolygone has a lot of ways. I make a new single way out of it. 14:00 #navit: < Mapmapper> Example a lake. The border of the lake has 10 (border-)ways, desribed in the multipolygon-relation. I add them together to one way 14:01 #navit: < Mapmapper> Ist then no more a relation. Its then only one simple way, what navit can show an the map 14:01 #navit: < Mapmapper> Lake-border-way. 14:05 -!- xenos1984 [~xenos1984@22-164-191-90.dyn.estpak.ee] has joined #navit 14:05 -!- mode/#navit [+v xenos1984] by ChanServ 14:12 #navit: < Mapmapper> Hello xenos 14:22 #navit: < Mapmapper> Ok, I must go 14:22 #navit: < Mapmapper> bye 14:28 -!- Mapmapper [b2088ebf@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.8.142.191] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:54 -!- xenos1984 [~xenos1984@22-164-191-90.dyn.estpak.ee] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:15 #navit: <+jkoan> KaZeR: vfat on partition 2 works, ext2 not, now i need to figure out how to get ext2 or better 3 running 16:17 #navit: <@KaZeR> hi there 16:17 #navit: <+jkoan> hi KaZeR 16:17 #navit: <+jkoan> nice, i just wrote you 2min ago 16:18 #navit: <+jkoan> ^^ 16:20 #navit: <@KaZeR> glanced quickly at the mapmapper discussion - i wasn't aware of this tool, could be something nice 16:21 #navit: <@KaZeR> jkoan: looks like ext2 support is missing in your kernel then. are you using an initramfs ? 16:21 #navit: <+jkoan> i am in initramfs, yes, need to look deeper into it, already debugging 16:22 #navit: <+jkoan> about the tool, i dont know if it is something usefull. I think its more like a workaround unless its fixed in maptool 16:23 #navit: <@KaZeR> i meant back porting what's done in the tool into maptool :) we probably don't want an external java app to do some pre-processing 16:24 #navit: <+jkoan> well, backporting intends to have the same behavior, but shouldent we just add support for what comes directly out of osm and support multi pylogons like thy intended to be mapped on osm? 16:25 #navit: <@KaZeR> yes that's what we should do 16:27 #navit: <+jkoan> and i think on postgress its already done 16:28 #navit: <+jkoan> your right, from /proc/filesystems its said no support for ext 16:32 #navit: <@KaZeR> do you have a /proc/config.gz ? 16:33 #navit: <@KaZeR> or do you have this kernel's config somewhere? 16:33 #navit: <+jkoan> yep, but already changed the config to support it. i thought i have done it already ^ 16:33 #navit: <@KaZeR> do you have the relevant module in your initramfs ? 16:35 #navit: <+jkoan> not now, did not started a new build :P 16:35 #navit: <+jkoan> i thought i hade ext already enabled, but this was not true 16:49 #navit: <+jkoan> FINALLY! 16:49 #navit: <+jkoan> # mount -t ext3 /dev/mmcblk0p2 /tmp 16:49 #navit: <+jkoan> # ls /tmp 16:49 #navit: <+jkoan> logs getenv.sh fonts start.sh bin man 16:49 #navit: <+jkoan> share lost+found lib etc sbin 16:49 #navit: <+jkoan> # 16:59 #navit: <+jkoan> KaZeR: now only letf is to clean up and go to real switch_root :) with proper init ^^ probably i can build this also with buildroot (for root), but not sure. Need to lest later on, firt the new root 17:03 #navit: <+jkoan> hopefully DIEHARD comes back soon, really want to talk with him about his problem. Dont know where his bug is coming from, but probably he could be a beta tester for the new cool NavitTom ^^ 17:05 #navit: <@KaZeR> hey, nice :) 17:11 #navit: < Mineque> hi 17:11 #navit: <+jkoan> hi Mineque 17:12 #navit: <+jkoan> whats up? 17:12 #navit: < Mineque> work 17:12 #navit: < Mineque> enclosure prefabrication 17:13 #navit: <+jkoan> sorry, dont remember, where do you work? 17:14 #navit: < Mineque> i'm making automation installation for factories 17:14 #navit: < Mineque> technology cooling 17:15 #navit: <+jkoan> ah cool, so you can build for example automated pcb manufacturing machines? 17:16 #navit: < Mineque> rather not 17:17 #navit: < Mineque> pcb machine are super fast and super precise 17:18 #navit: <+jkoan> yes, i know :D 17:18 #navit: <+jkoan> but they are cool things 17:20 #navit: < Mineque> better buy used 17:20 #navit: < Mineque> ;) 17:22 #navit: < Mineque> i'm making automation for cooling, pumps, valves, air units 17:22 #navit: < Mineque> mostly 17:23 #navit: < Mineque> chillers 17:24 #navit: <+jkoan> so you have much to do since this summer is so hot ;) 17:24 #navit: < Mineque> yeaaaaah 17:25 #navit: <+jkoan> i dont remember, are you a user of a tomtom or not 17:25 #navit: <+jkoan> :X 17:26 #navit: < Mineque> no 17:26 #navit: <+jkoan> :( 17:26 #navit: < Mineque> not using at all 18:24 -!- xenos1984 [~xenos1984@22-164-191-90.dyn.estpak.ee] has joined #navit 18:24 -!- mode/#navit [+v xenos1984] by ChanServ 19:01 -!- youte [~youte@80.215.106.175] has joined #navit 19:01 -!- mode/#navit [+v youte] by ChanServ 20:13 -!- youte [~youte@80.215.106.175] has quit [] 20:33 #navit: <@KaZeR> if you receive emails from the android@n-p.org project good news the spam filter has been re-enabled. 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