--- Log opened Sun Sep 02 00:00:35 2018
00:19 #navit: < genesis> jkoan : update to cmake 3.x seems not straightforward.
01:07 #navit: < genesis> pbf seems lighter than our bin 
01:11 #navit: < genesis> pbf to bin seems slow like hell.
01:38 #navit: < genesis> https://github.com/navit-gps/navit/pull/650
02:53 #navit: < Beggar> pbf is G***** stuff, anything that came from G***** I can nto see with good eyes.
02:54 #navit: < Beggar> it is smaller but until now it does not seems to be an standard in the navigation and map viewing software around the OSM world.
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07:03 #navit: <+jkoan> Beggar: if you look at real world navigation systems you will see that they have protobuf in there licenses lists. I found it at least on a moder tomtom and probably a Garmin device
07:05 #navit: <+jkoan> I was also thinking about if it would make sense to support pbf directly as a map driver. I don't know if the performance impact would be that drastic
08:30 #navit: < genesis> yeap, anyway lots of opensource code support osm-pbf so we could have a lot of codebase to share with
08:32 #navit: < genesis> the only 3rd pary i still use is shapefile, have to fix it too.
09:17 #navit: < genesis> since it's a stripped version of shapelib, could be stay in for the moment.
09:19 #navit: < genesis> but we have to upgrade to latest that has changes in the files we use.
09:20 #navit: < genesis> seems inused in fact ?
09:20 #navit: < genesis> navit/tools/gpx2navit_txt/src/gpx2navit_txt.h://#include "shapefil.h"
09:22 #navit: < genesis> we have a ./navit/map/libmap_shapefile.so, so let it be.
09:49 #navit: < genesis>  jkoan in the place ?
10:19 #navit: < genesis> http://www.gpxsee.org/index.html another opensource tool.
10:33 #navit: < genesis> no graphics and performances issues on gpxsee, shame we don't share code.
11:52 #navit: < genesis> fix code and you'll have to fix packager issue due to ci :/
12:14 #navit: < genesis> setup_common_requirements.sh ... not common with android.
12:38 #navit: < genesis> https://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/cmake 2.8.12.2 :/
12:40 #navit: < genesis> who still use trusty ???
12:45 #navit: < genesis> i up to xenial, 2 LTS behind is enough ...
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12:50 #navit: < genesis> Beggar which distro you run ?
12:52 #navit: < Beggar> Debian at moment.
12:52 #navit: < genesis> which release ?
12:52 #navit: < Beggar> stretch the last stable
12:52 #navit: < Beggar> Linux SMUR2 4.9.0-3-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.9.30-2+deb9u2 (2017-06-26) x86_64 GNU/Linux
12:53 #navit: < Beggar> uname -a output
12:54 #navit: < genesis> yeap it's still more recent that trusty 14.04
12:55 #navit: < genesis> june 2017
12:56 #navit: < Beggar> I have never used ubuntu
12:57 #navit: < genesis> hard to upgrade cmake minimal with all this old version in ci
13:01 #navit: < Beggar> cmake... Are you trying to upgrade cmake on ubuntu? is that even possible without libcbin trouble?
13:01 #navit: < genesis> i try yes, to cmake 3.1 in a first time
13:02 #navit: < genesis> but winCE and others old stuff doesn't like it
13:03 #navit: < genesis> refacoring code needs to know all the plateform building in the ci, that's a bit a non-go for lot of devel.
13:04 #navit: < genesis> so noone will fix deprecated stuff, and code dies.
13:04 #navit: < genesis> last wince is 2007, who still use navit on it
13:04 #navit: < genesis> 1 people ? 2 peoples ?
13:06 #navit: < Beggar> WinCE probably will not be pratical for most people, but navit can be used to revive old hardware, this is the only valid point I can see in the support for winCE
13:06 #navit: < Beggar> this and some HTC phones that IIRC still use WinCE and have support from HTC
13:33 #navit: < genesis> android build is based on stretch
13:35 #navit: < genesis> setup_common_requirements.sh is setup_ubuntu_common_requirements.sh in reality
14:00 #navit: < genesis> we should not assume debian and ubuntu shares same packages naming.
14:01 #navit: < genesis> (they don't share same between version...)
14:18 #navit: < Beggar> Even if compared with the testing version?
14:28 #navit: < genesis> i abandonned
14:30 #navit: < genesis> this is unsane source and a ci process complain about a whitespace when you try to remove thousand of compiler warning and useless files
14:33 #navit: < genesis> 6 Hours lost on that today is enough
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15:59 #navit: < genesis> https://github.com/navit-gps/navit/pull/651
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22:01 #navit: < genesis> https://github.com/albertz/navit/tree/master/cmake kills them all :]
22:02 #navit: < genesis> one special case is something, too much is people trying to reinvent the wheel.
--- Log closed Mon Sep 03 00:00:37 2018