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[16:29:52] <jkoan> Welcome back NavitLogger
[16:30:07] <jkoan> Thx Number6
[16:31:53] <jkoan> Number6: what do you think about getting the missing log files for the days from my irc bouncer? Then we would have a full archive
[16:38:36] <Number6> jkoan: Sure - that's be great. 
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[18:22:19] <KaZeR> hi there
[18:23:56] <KaZeR> jkoan: you are an admin on the Dockerfile repo
[18:49:00] <ilovekiruna> hi KaZeR
[18:51:10] <KaZeR> hey ilovekiruna 
[18:54:35] <ilovekiruna> i hope u didnt mind doing a git submodule with your layout repo
[18:56:50] <jkoan> hi KaZeR
[18:56:53] <jkoan> hi ilovekiruna
[18:57:28] <ilovekiruna> hi jkoan
[18:58:59] <jkoan> ilovekiruna: i like the idea of submodules, but i tought that only snipets would be better in terms of the ability to automate with the layout dir (PR#559)
[18:59:36] <ilovekiruna> jkoan: that would then require having predefined settings on everything else
[18:59:50] <ilovekiruna> also what about "what is a layout"?
[18:59:57] <jkoan> probably we need to this more about the filesystem layout
[19:00:02] <ilovekiruna> a map layout? an osd layout?
[19:00:12] <jkoan> i thought about both
[19:00:35] <ilovekiruna> that would imo make things pretty complicated
[19:00:47] <ilovekiruna> what shall we then automatically generate? which combinations?
[19:00:48] <ilovekiruna> all?
[19:02:33] <jkoan> thats true, but that about if a combined layout needs to have 3 xml files: 1 main which includes the other two and then one osd layout and one map layout? 
[19:03:47] <jkoan> or we seperate map and osd layout and provide them completely separated. and then render osd layouts with a blank map and map layout without any osd
[19:04:41] <ilovekiruna> would suggest less automation, more customization ;-)
[19:05:05] <ilovekiruna> so have small website like our map sever, where you can mix as you please
[19:05:20] <ilovekiruna> but then we had to split also all the full layouts
[19:05:33] <ilovekiruna> that had to be done by everyone separately
[19:05:54] <jkoan> this could also be acomplished by the second idea as well
[19:06:12] <ilovekiruna> which one?
[19:06:20] <jkoan> 19:03
[19:06:38] <ilovekiruna> you mean: > or we seperate map and osd layout and provide them completely separated. and then render osd layouts with a blank map and map layout without any osd
[19:06:46] <jkoan> yes
[19:07:03] <ilovekiruna> yes, could be also an option
[19:08:22] <jkoan> probably we can make the combine thing working also by rendering the osd layout with alpha
[19:10:20] <KaZeR> > osd layout and one map layout
[19:10:31] <KaZeR> i think that we should keep them seperated
[19:10:40] <KaZeR> they are not technically related
[19:11:16] <jkoan> yes, so you agree with ilovekiruna and me?
[19:11:19] <KaZeR> yep
[19:11:24] <jkoan> nice :)
[19:11:36] <KaZeR> :)
[19:11:41] <ilovekiruna> am in one way still a little hesitating
[19:12:03] <ilovekiruna> i would delay the split still a little until we merged the PR for the split navit.xml
[19:12:31] <jkoan> so submodules only work when the osd and map layouts are split there as well
[19:13:17] <ilovekiruna> exactly
[19:13:27] <jkoan> Number6: NavitLogger needs to be logged in
[19:15:12] <jkoan> Number6: do you want the logfiles in my format or reformated in your log format?
[19:32:59] <ilovekiruna> jkoan: is there abetter way to get snippets from our wiki, the n copy & paste?
[19:33:11] <ilovekiruna> KaZeR: any comments on what we should change for FOSDEM?
[19:33:19] <ilovekiruna> right now I uploaded our old versions
[19:33:21] <jkoan> i dont think so
[19:33:37] <ilovekiruna> just ask, because you know those files are huge ;-)
[19:34:03] <KaZeR> ilovekiruna: i need to think about fosdem yeah. mvglasow's traffic plugin could be interesting
[19:34:31] <ilovekiruna> absoultely, also thought about it
[19:57:58] <KaZeR> have to go offline for most of the rest of the day. bye!
[19:58:15] <jkoan> have a nice day KaZeR :-)
[20:06:45] <ilovekiruna> have a nice day KaZeR
[20:06:58] <ilovekiruna> jkoan: do you think you have something we could also upload to FOSDEM
[20:07:10] <ilovekiruna> apart from the traffic branch?
[20:07:52] <ilovekiruna> am now thinking if there are other recent project updates we could frame in a 10 minutes presentation
[20:14:21] <Number6> jkoan: nah, your format is ok. It should only be a once off. I should have caught it earlier
[20:15:21] <jkoan> Number6: only time-zone adjustments? ;)
[20:17:34] <Number6> jkoan: Timezones!? NEVER! UTC for life!
[20:19:51] <jkoan> mine are in german time zone :O
[20:20:51] <jkoan> But NavitLogger isent back up, right?
[20:21:18] <Number6> uggggh, you're right
[20:21:39] <jkoan> dont you have auto login?
[20:21:52] <NavitLogger> Test
[20:22:08] <jkoan> woooh NavitLogger is back :D
[20:23:04] <NavitLogger> Test again
[20:23:15] <Number6> There we go, the log file was stuck
[20:24:16] <jkoan> nice
[20:24:34] <jkoan> okay, my logfiles are 2 hours off
[20:24:47] <Number6> I don't think anyone will complain :-)
[20:24:53] <jkoan> okay
[20:25:55] <jkoan> so 03 to today?
[20:26:04] <Number6> Please :-)
[20:27:11] <jkoan> i have all logfiles from 2017-09-22 to today. only little downtimes :D but the logfiles you requested are on the way
[20:27:21] <Number6> Thanks!


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18:23 #navit: < NavitLogger> Test again
18:23 #navit: <@Number6> There we go, the log file was stuck
18:24 #navit: <+jkoan> nice
18:24 #navit: <+jkoan> okay, my logfiles are 2 hours off
18:24 #navit: <@Number6> I don't think anyone will complain :-)
18:24 #navit: <+jkoan> okay
18:25 #navit: <+jkoan> so 03 to today?
18:26 #navit: <@Number6> Please :-)
18:27 #navit: <+jkoan> i have all logfiles from 2017-09-22 to today. only little downtimes :D but the logfiles you requested are on the way
18:27 #navit: <@Number6> Thanks!
18:29 #navit: <+jkoan> got them? ^^ 
18:30 #navit: <@Number6> Yep! Will put them up on the server tomorrow
18:31 #navit: <@Number6> Thanks so much
18:31 #navit: <+jkoan> :-)
18:31 #navit: <+jkoan> no problem
18:32 #navit: <+jkoan> btw do you still use navit personal?
18:32 #navit: <@Number6> Yeah, on my android phone
18:33 #navit: <+jkoan> are you also curious to run it with traffic soon? ^^ 
18:34 #navit: <@Number6> Traffic!? Oh, that's new
18:35 #navit: <+jkoan> TMC, yes
18:35 #navit: <+jkoan> https://github.com/navit-gps/navit/pull/672 android should already work 
18:37 #navit: <@Number6> Nice!
18:37 #navit: <+jkoan> thank mvglasow not me ;)
18:43 #navit: <+jkoan> and i work on a tomtom os build for navit and hopefully i will get tmc working here also ;)
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