--- Log opened Thu Oct 25 00:00:36 2018
00:51 #navit: < genesis> # btmgmt 
00:51 #navit: < genesis> [mgmt]# con
00:51 #navit: < genesis> 00:13:6C:47:6D:0B type BR/EDR
00:51 #navit: < genesis> :)
00:59 #navit: < genesis> oki i'm in :P
00:59 #navit: < genesis> TomTomXL login: root
00:59 #navit: < genesis> BusyBox v1.00 (2006.01.17-14:38+0000) Built-in shell (ash)
00:59 #navit: < genesis> Enter 'help' for a list of built-in commands.
01:36 #navit: <+Navit> <charlescurley> OK, I'm confused.
01:38 #navit: <+Navit> <charlescurley> I'm trying to make a simple patch to vehicle_gpsd.c to bring it in line with gpsd version 3.18.1. It has a simple API change. I have it working correctly on two clients I wrote and maintain. But something is breaking the navit code. The navit code is complex, possibly too complex. Does anyone understand it?
01:45 #navit: < genesis> hi :)
02:52 #navit: <+Navit> <KaZeR> Hi @charlescurley
02:52 #navit: <+Navit> <KaZeR> I am on mobile right now. Can you share some detail maybe in a ticket? I will have a look
03:04 #navit: <+Navit> <charlescurley> Yeah.
03:06 #navit: <+Navit> <charlescurley> All the changes I made were in vehicle_gpsd.c. It should not affect anything else. I just added  #if GPSD_API_MAJOR_VERSION >= 7 /* API change. gpsd version 3.18 and subsequent. /         while((read_result=gps_read(priv->gps,NULL,0))>0); #else  / GPSD_API_MAJOR_VERSION >= 7 /         while((read_result=gps_read(priv->gps))>0); #endif  / GPSD_API_MAJOR_VERSION >= 7 */ at around line 328.
03:07 #navit: <+Navit> <charlescurley> When I run with debug, I get:  info:navit:main_real:Using config file '/home/charles/.navit/navit.xml' debug:navit:callback_call:cb->pcount=1 debug:navit:callback_call:cb->p[0]=0x55fe95498600 debug:navit:callback_call:pcount=0 debug:vehicle_gpsd:vehicle_gpsd_io:enter debug:vehicle_gpsd:vehicle_gpsd_callback:data->set=5377c debug:vehicle_gpsd:vehicle_gpsd_callback:lat=43.644367 lng=-108.214598
03:07 #navit: <+Navit> debug:navit:callback_call:cb->pcount=2 debug:navit:callback_call:cb->p[0]=0x55fe95498460 debug:navit:callback_call:pcount=0 info:navit:attr_search:enter attrs=0x55fe954a0a10 debug:navit:attr_search:attrs=0x55fe9549cb80 debug:navit:attr_search:attrs=0x55fe9549cbc0 debug:navit:log_write:enter info:navit:log_write:overflow debug:navit:callback_call:cb->pcount=2 debug:navit:callback_call:cb->p[0]=0x55fe9526b9d0
03:07 #navit: <+Navit> debug:navit:callback_call:pcount=0 info:navit:tracking_update:Static speed: 5, static distance: 25 GNU gdb (Debian 7.12-6) 7.12.0.20161007-git Copyright (C) 2016 Free Software Foundation, Inc. License GPLv3+: GNU GPL version 3 or later http://gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html This is free software: you are free to change and redistribute it. There is NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by law.  Type "show copying"
03:08 #navit: <+Navit> <charlescurley> Lat & log are correct.
03:09 #navit: <+Navit> <KaZeR> Thanks I will have a look
03:10 #navit: <+Navit> <charlescurley> Also see https://github.com/navit-gps/navit/issues/671
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04:33 #navit: <@KaZeR> genesis: nice
04:34 #navit: <@KaZeR> genesis : you found the ssh key that was needed or that's something different?
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04:34 #navit: < genesis> KaZeR : i can't tell :) 
04:35 #navit: <@KaZeR> :D
04:35 #navit: < genesis> i don't understand how blueman has been able to connect 
04:35 #navit: < genesis> i've to snif dbus to understand 
04:35 #navit: <@KaZeR> the shell is via a serial session over bluetooth right?
04:35 #navit: < genesis> yes but documentation say no passwd 
04:36 #navit: < genesis> since the app remove passwd file
04:36 #navit: < genesis> but it's slow and bug like hell, and i've to modify bt policy in script, i donno what was the good change
04:36 #navit: < genesis> see that later.
04:38 #navit: <@KaZeR> ++. btw, i'll be mosly offline until monday. have a great week-end everyone
04:38 #navit: < genesis> oki, have a nice week.
04:39 #navit: < genesis> https://github.com/navit-gps/navit/pull/659 i find my pb here
04:39 #navit: < genesis> define a valid plateform makes change in build 
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18:29 #navit: < genesis> jkoan : fenugrec's freediag software has fltk ui :] 
18:33 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> hi genesis
18:34 #navit: < genesis> hi
18:58 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> btw: @all, am booking now flights to brussels
18:58 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> will like last year try to represent us at fosdem
18:58 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> best of c if we get a talk
19:08 #navit: < genesis> most important is to get developer:)
19:09 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> by publicity I hope we can attract more developers
19:09 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> and users, users can also help us by suggestions or bug reports
19:10 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> I also started here as a user who had a feature request
19:10 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> eventually I then started also working on other things
19:12 #navit: <@KaZeR> pretty much how all of us got ropped in :)
19:15 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> KaZeR: even u?
19:16 #navit: < genesis> how many have right to commit to trunk 
19:16 #navit: < genesis> ?
19:16 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> do you mean directly to trunk?
19:17 #navit: < genesis> yes can merge thing to it
19:18 #navit: < genesis> could be fine to have a little presentation of team roles 
19:21 #navit: <@KaZeR> ilovekiruna: yeah. back in the days, it was a gtk only application, only available in german :)
19:22 #navit: < genesis> ich schript nichts deutsch
19:22 #navit: <@KaZeR> genesis: if you have write access you can merge a PR. just don't commit directly to trunk, and if the OP asked for several reviewers give them a chance to review before merging
19:22 #navit: < genesis> yes , so easy to review : #704 :D
19:23 #navit: < genesis> before i fight another hour with git conflict since #705 ..
19:24 #navit: <@KaZeR> looking good. merged. thanks!
19:25 #navit: < genesis> and btw i let cmake 3 for a bit since it's hard to do without people aware of the importance of that, always same target are hard to update, later perharps, need to look at tomtom stuff :)
19:27 #navit: <@KaZeR> yeah i understand. we can keep pushing on this bit by bit
19:27 #navit: < genesis> yes that's why i try
19:28 #navit: < genesis> quite finish, just wince make some difficulties
19:28 #navit: <@KaZeR> i'm getting better at wince now that i have a device. maybe i can help sometime next week
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19:28 #navit: < genesis> bignaux5 commits  225 ++  5,202 --
19:29 #navit: <@KaZeR> that's efficiency!
19:29 #navit: < genesis> i like such stat :d
19:29 #navit: <@KaZeR> so do i. smaller codebase is better
19:29 #navit: <@KaZeR> have to sign off back later
19:30 #navit: < genesis> KaZeR #659 is a good start to look :)
19:31 #navit: < genesis> setting right plateforme WindowsCE makes things wrong.
19:31 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> interesting
19:35 #navit: < genesis> yeap, i think cmake team target wince8 and we've 6 but i'm not very interesting by this stuff
19:36 #navit: < genesis> changing to the right plateform make thing like libnavit.a becomes navit.lib, stuff like that
19:38 #navit: < genesis> but interesting works is to set properly a toolchain, it's an example for the others
19:38 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> is there a wince8, btw?
19:39 #navit: < genesis> https://cmake.org/cmake/help/v3.4/manual/cmake-toolchains.7.html?highlight=windowsce#cross-compiling-for-windows-ce
19:39 #navit: < genesis> set(CMAKE_SYSTEM_VERSION 8.0)
19:40 #navit: < genesis> people need to have a look closely to that .
19:40 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> ah, microsoft calls it officially 2013
19:40 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> makes sense now
19:41 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> wasn't ce also for real-time?
19:42 #navit: < genesis> right now i prefer have a look to tomtom since this devices are second hand very cheap.
19:42 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> sure, no problem on that
19:42 #navit: < genesis> now i think it's winRT for that, i only use vxworks for RT anyway
19:42 #navit: < genesis> since i'm diplomed in automotiv btw
19:43 #navit: < genesis> automotion ?
19:43 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> cool
19:43 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> I got degrees in mechanical engineering and space engineering / physics
19:43 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> btw: one of them from UPS Toulouse
19:43 #navit: < genesis> fine, never go there
19:44 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> I am now doing a phd 
19:44 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> there I need to deal partially with realtime simulation
19:44 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> that's why I was thinking about it ;-)
19:44 #navit: < genesis> that is an occupation, i'm unemployed and misanthrope :)
19:45 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> i know how it is being unemployed
19:45 #navit: < genesis> i'd advise you to have a look at xenomaï
19:45 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> had the same situation back in 2014/2015
19:45 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> for mobile?
19:45 #navit: < genesis> i'm for years now, i don't search job, i don't care, society is failing down
19:46 #navit: < genesis> just hack stuff to take my brain occupied
19:46 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> I have the pleasure to do realtime on windows and .net
19:47 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> xenomai sounds interesting, never heard
19:47 #navit: < genesis> we used it on beremiz.org project
19:48 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> I just wonder how it differs from the real time patches to the kernel itself
19:48 #navit: < genesis> lot of article on that :)
19:48 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> i read today they could become mainline next year
19:48 #navit: < genesis> ho
19:48 #navit: < genesis> i start a studiolibre.org project when i was younger
19:49 #navit: < genesis> to deliver documentation on how to setup studio with foss software
19:49 #navit: < genesis> we was earlier adopter of this RT patches
19:49 #navit: < genesis> ingo molnar stuff and so
19:50 #navit: < genesis> "next year" sound fun.
19:54 #navit: <+Navit> <KaZeR> > <genesis> right now i prefer have a look to tomtom since this devices are second hand very cheap.
19:54 #navit: <+Navit> <KaZeR> The wince device I have right now costs $50-60 new 😃
19:57 #navit: < genesis> ecologie ;)
19:58 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> KaZeR: have you seen my question about circleci?
20:00 #navit: <+Navit> <KaZeR> Ilovekiruna not yet. I am on mobile, I’ll check my pms later
20:00 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> didnt write PM, was yesterday
20:01 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> seems like no branch of me was triggering any build on cci
20:02 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> any idea?
20:19 #navit: < genesis> no, weird
20:19 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> was wondering, if i am above an quota
20:20 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> only explanation, I would have :-(
20:34 #navit: < genesis> which PR on navit are you workng on ?
20:35 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> genesis, do you mean me?
20:39 #navit: < genesis> yes ?
20:40 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> the issue from yesterday, is currently no PR yet
20:40 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> I just develop it in a branch so far
20:40 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> this was sailfish on cci
20:45 #navit: < genesis> oki you're working on that, i donno that stuff 
20:46 #navit: < genesis> sailfish -> jolia 
20:46 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> yes
20:46 #navit: < genesis> -> meeog
20:46 #navit: < genesis> meego
20:46 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> kinda
20:46 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> honestly, best phone ever, i had
20:47 #navit: < genesis> my phone i found it in trash
20:47 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> still working after 4 years 
20:47 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> and a few updates every year
20:47 #navit: < genesis> i repair it for 8 bucks.
20:47 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> full OS updates
20:48 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> which resolve CVEs
20:48 #navit: < genesis> hum yes, yocto/openembedded would have provide
20:48 #navit: < genesis> that also, but make a new os is so pleasant nowadays :)
20:48 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> but amazing, repair for 8 bucks
20:49 #navit: < genesis> i donno that stuff anyway, i'm on nixos this days, very good OS, amazing.
20:49 #navit: < genesis> love it, after 18 years of gentoo
20:54 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> happy you found, what suits you best :-D
20:54 #navit: < genesis> yes yes :)
20:55 #navit: < genesis> but for a man that have been paid for years to build distribution ...
20:55 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> which did you build for money?
20:56 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> gentoo, or mandriva?
20:56 #navit: < genesis> openembedded
20:56 #navit: < genesis> for nao robot, hertz rental embedded device, press double screen reader ...
20:57 #navit: < genesis> sometime i've worked on entreprise specific linux , very very interesting stuff one time
20:57 #navit: < genesis> anyway, i was working on appimage and i searsh solution for pb we have there
20:58 #navit: < genesis> i discover nixos, i abandonned appimage project and my gentoo in same time. 
20:58 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> i think coming from appimage, nixos makes a lot of sense
20:59 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> now i also understand your choice better :-)
20:59 #navit: < genesis> yes, appimage share patchelf tool as well
21:00 #navit: < genesis> and btw, appimage team are NIH infected, they don't fix things, they run after flak thinggy and others
21:01 #navit: < genesis> but when you've worked on that (i'm #4 contributor)
21:01 #navit: < genesis> you understand that it will never work.
21:02 #navit: < genesis> https://nixos.org/~eelco/pubs/phd-thesis.pdf should speak to another "phd" :D
21:02 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> u know for myself, i just mentioned for you to know
21:02 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> i dont think any person becomes a better person by being a phd
21:03 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> i wont be any better after than I was before
21:03 #navit: < genesis> you've to, effort means things 
21:03 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> I mean better knowledge of topic ofc
21:03 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> but not that I should be treated by others any different
21:04 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> or treat others any different
21:04 #navit: < genesis> ho come on
21:04 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> I know people, who changed character or behaviour after phd
21:04 #navit: < genesis> if you works enough to have better skills that other
21:04 #navit: < genesis> don't be shy to be up the ground
21:05 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> i can be proud if needed, but prefer to at least try to stay humble
21:05 #navit: < genesis> i believe in meritocraty
21:05 #navit: < genesis> yes be humble but not marxist.
21:05 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> I dont like bragging
21:05 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> that ws my point
21:06 #navit: < genesis> oki, so , do you try our beautiful nix :D
21:06 #navit: < genesis> i try it on gentoo first, since it's available on every plateform and doesn't need root right
21:07 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> there is one difference for me, 
21:07 #navit: < genesis> really the good way to make linux great again ^^
21:07 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> generally I am not yet convinced by the ideas of snap, appimage, flatpak, etc.
21:08 #navit: < genesis> yes but they have a really need in common
21:08 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> no doubt, i just dont have the need myself yet
21:08 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> but for sure at some point, I will test also nix
21:08 #navit: < genesis> we lost time to write package for each distribution
21:09 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> just recently I slowly appreciate docker containers
21:09 #navit: < genesis> and when we do, we fight against version conflict
21:09 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> as a useful tool for development, after many years
21:11 #navit: < genesis> yeap, could be usefull
21:13 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> btw: not sure if you mentioned yesterday, I see now the problem
21:13 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> seems like my circleci config.yml file is flawed
21:15 #navit: <+ilovekiruna> will check out tomorrow
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