[01:18:19] next step, bombs! :D [04:59:46] *** Joins: xenos1984 (~xenos1984@2001:bb8:2002:200:6651:6ff:fe53:a120) [04:59:46] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v xenos1984 [14:49:09] *** Quits: xenos1984 (~xenos1984@2001:bb8:2002:200:6651:6ff:fe53:a120) (Quit: Leaving.) [15:03:18] *** Joins: xenos1984 (~xenos1984@2d61-e7c7-d0d4-0932-d480-87c4-07d0-2001.dyn.estpak.ee) [15:03:18] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v xenos1984 [16:26:35] hi there [16:26:46] hi kazer [16:28:27] hi [16:28:37] hi genesis [16:34:07] 'sup guys? [16:35:34] working on a project using mercurial on bitbucket, such a shit. [16:35:56] should come with a rope. [16:57:09] lol [17:23:26] *** Joins: DuncanDo (~DuncanDo@pool-108-26-213-192.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) [17:26:34] *** Quits: DuncanDo (~DuncanDo@pool-108-26-213-192.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) (Remote host closed the connection) [17:46:33] *** Joins: jandegr (d5d39cde@gateway/web/freenode/ip.213.211.156.222) [18:28:20] *** Joins: ilovekiruna (~ilovekiru@2a02:8108:d00:110:d96c:93f4:8be1:474b) [18:28:20] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v ilovekiruna [18:28:28] hi everyone [18:28:38] hi ilovekiruna [18:28:49] hi jkoan [18:35:18] *** Joins: DuncanDo (~DuncanDo@pool-108-26-213-192.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) [18:38:06] *** Joins: gernot2 (bc6eabcc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.188.110.171.204) [18:38:17] Hi [18:38:31] hey [18:40:48] hi gernot2, hi DuncanDo [18:41:06] hi [18:41:13] jkoan: I saw we seem to migrate the documentation from the wiki to readthedocs [18:41:17] DuncanDo: hi [18:41:34] jkoan: seems like a lot of work [18:41:41] ilovekiruna, yes, kazer did some work on that [18:41:49] yes it is [18:42:13] do we have any time plan for that? Meaning no new entries in wiki and everything new on readthedocs? [18:43:16] no we dont have. its more like a prove o concept [18:43:59] ah, ok [18:44:48] but the plan is that doxygen is for technical documentation and read the docs for user manual [18:46:07] can one really cover everything techincal with doxygen? [18:46:24] should be, yes [18:47:20] yes , we should do that. [18:47:54] i think about xml files for example [18:48:29] doxygen is mostly for code, true [18:54:12] the main issue with the wiki is that we get 200 spam entries for 1 valid entry and i'm tired of cleaning it up [18:54:30] kazer: hi [18:54:36] plus, having something on readthedocs should allow us to have documentation that's better organized (hopefully) [18:54:40] hi gernot2 and ilovekiruna ! [18:54:48] hi kazer [18:55:02] my goal was not generally questioning the idea [18:55:06] and yes as you noted it's going to required a significant effort, so all contributions are welcome :D [18:55:14] ilovekiruna: oh no worries i didn't take it this way [18:55:44] maybe we could also put examples for the elements of navit.xml in the comments of the related functions [18:56:10] just not sure if people who are not software developers would find it more tricky then ;-) [18:56:34] i actually switched the wiki to read only a couple of weeks ago after cleaning up another 160+ spam entries [18:56:55] if you look at the recent changes, we have spam accounts being registered pretty much everyday [18:57:07] just to be curious, how can the spam users be registered? [18:57:26] couldn't we "delay" the registration until a manual approval? [18:58:02] we used to do that, and it was as much work. today alone we've already had 11 registrations [19:00:14] (Deletion log)‎ . . [KaZeR‎ (140×)] [19:00:18] ^- my last cleanup [19:01:03] moving content to rtd isn't really difficult, especially now that we have a few pages that can be used as templates [19:01:33] *** Quits: DuncanDo (~DuncanDo@pool-108-26-213-192.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) (Remote host closed the connection) [19:01:55] kazer: checked you the spam source IP? I admin a forum and locked many cn IP-blocks [19:02:41] yeah we used to do that too. Many requests come from bangladesh and countries in this area [19:03:38] The spanuser registration in this case was CN. Then the spam itself came form other sources [19:04:16] i wouldn't be surprised if there was a business of selling registered accounts indeed [19:06:11] Yes, locking one /16 and some /24 nets in CN stopped the span registration. [19:15:33] *** Joins: DuncanDo (~DuncanDo@pool-108-26-213-192.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) [19:16:50] kazer, you there? [19:17:30] any updates with the windows version [19:20:38] DuncanDo: let me push jandegr's suggested fix [19:20:46] ok cool [19:23:07] kazer, btw check out my newest avatar: https://i.imgur.com/B0mPkS8.png [19:23:19] I made it with blender [19:24:20] oh wow [19:24:32] if you are good with design and stuff we can totally use your help :D [19:24:37] ah ok [19:26:30] it's just a hobby for me. If you need ideas or help I can do that.. [19:27:22] if you are good with designing pretty things in general, we could use help reviewing the map layouts or some of our icons [19:28:03] sure [19:28:19] have you seen how we generate map layouts yet? [19:28:46] not yet [19:29:19] I'll look it up [19:29:30] here's the relevant wiki page : https://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/Layout [19:31:45] I can help with that I'm good with design in general [19:32:27] you're hired [19:32:31] great! [19:32:53] are you good with websites design too? [19:33:04] not really lol [19:33:38] haha ok [19:34:26] in the meantime, latest build with Jan's suggested fixes if you want to test : https://14614-30791823-gh.circle-artifacts.com/0/root/project/win32/navit.exe [19:36:25] ok [19:46:58] kazer, jkoan: was reading about this today. https://blog.qt.io/blog/2019/06/04/introducing-minicoin/ Could it be useful for us? [19:50:05] > minicoin is a set of scripts and conventions on top of Vagrant [19:50:51] so it wouldn't help for the builds, but could maybe help if we setup UI tests. but we have yet to find a good framework or tool for that [19:52:44] kazer, it works [19:53:00] is it normal for the map to exit if you zoom in too close? [19:53:05] DuncanDo: nice! [19:53:08] it [19:53:10] it [19:53:14] damn it i can't type today [19:53:33] could you share a video or a set of screenshots? doesn't sound right [19:54:07] kazer, I have to leave right now. I'll be back in a few hours with the screenshots [19:54:13] Thank you [19:54:14] great [19:54:23] well you should thank Jan, he's the one who fixed it :D [19:54:23] *** Quits: DuncanDo (~DuncanDo@pool-108-26-213-192.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) (Remote host closed the connection) [19:55:41] <05jkoan> Ilovekiruna have you looked at openstf? I did a test run and it seems to be promising for at least hand testing, but it should also support automatic testing [19:56:24] kazer: I rather meant because we also need to build on many platforms ;-) [19:56:38] jkoan: I looked at openstf and also played with it before [19:56:58] It even supports the framework I used before appium [19:57:16] its largest weakness is that it just works with locally attached devices [19:57:30] <05jkoan> Not totally true [19:58:21] jkoan: please enlighten me [19:59:12] well i do have a couple of android devices that i could hook up to a local farm [19:59:25] kazer: this is what i knew [19:59:32] <05jkoan> You can add as many worker nodes as you want to the master server, if you now build a VPN then you can use a raspberry Pi to host your devices, I use a pi to connect my devices and both connect to a Dockerised master server which is also in the vpn [20:00:07] is this master server a new feature? [20:00:14] I didnt see it last year, sounds great [20:01:26] <05jkoan> We just need to set up the VPN and start the Docker farm, after that any client in the VPN can connect to the master. And if someone does bad things with our farm we just revoke the VPN access ke, [20:02:04] but wouldnt all devices need to be connected to one server? [20:02:20] like jkoan has a server with devices, I have one, kazer has one? [20:02:31] can they managed by the same instance? [20:03:25] <05jkoan> No, I could host the server and the VPN and then everyone who has devices starts a VPN client and a worker node at his home [20:03:49] <05jkoan> Need to leave now, but I really want to set this up soon [20:04:57] is the division between server and worker node in openstf? [20:09:19] just to ask what was wrong with appium or sellenium for gui testing? [20:09:29] this is what openstf actually supports [20:09:50] appium is android only no? [20:10:03] no [20:10:25] i should look at it again then [20:13:52] *** Quits: jandegr (d5d39cde@gateway/web/freenode/ip.213.211.156.222) (Quit: Page closed) [20:14:03] it is also supporting IOs, windows and mac [20:14:20] was looking up frameworks earlier [20:14:36] actually when I find some time, I would like to work on the gui testing and the device farm again [20:14:41] maybe we can do it together [20:14:55] I planned to present this in next years fosdem [20:16:22] yeah that'd be nice. some time ago i also looked at sikulix [20:17:02] is it FOSS? [20:18:01] MIT : https://github.com/RaiMan/SikuliX1 [20:18:18] i liked its opencv capabilities [20:18:34] By [20:18:49] that sounds interesting [20:19:29] when I discussed with people in fosdem, i was suggested to use the lava framework [20:19:32] *** Quits: gernot2 (bc6eabcc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.188.110.171.204) () [20:20:14] https://wiki.linaro.org/LAVA ? [20:20:19] yes [20:20:33] Linaro Automated Validation Architecture (LAVA) is available as a Debian package in jessie (stable), testing (stretch) and unstable (Sid). LAVA support for Ubuntu Trusty (14.04) was frozen at 2015.9.post1 and no further updates will be available. Ubuntu 16.04LTS Xenial is not supported for LAVA. [20:22:31] for openstf so far i understood to connect devices from other places would be via adb connect, i.e. wifi [20:23:07] means then installing a vpn client on every phone? [20:23:26] adb connect would be via a usb cable, also to provide power to the device no? [20:23:44] and then you'd need a local node like a pi to act as a slave and connect to the vpn [20:24:11] i nowhere read sth like that [20:24:47] having such a setup was exactly what i wanted to create in the first place and discussed beforehand here [20:26:01] https://github.com/openstf/stf/issues/1003 [20:26:20] so we can have slave servers indeed [20:26:44] it makes sense actually because these guys are running a farm of like 130 devices [20:26:54] you can't really plug 130 usb devices on one host :D [20:27:12] it honestly is the first time i read about it [20:27:31] it's not well advertized indeed :) [21:20:54] *** Joins: DuncanDo (~DuncanDo@pool-108-26-213-192.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) [22:01:22] kazer, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MB7osteqSoI [22:02:14] the map exits when you zoom in or out several times [22:05:38] *** Joins: DuncanDo_ (~DuncanDO@pool-108-26-213-192.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) [22:10:34] https://pastebin.com/ayetJdSC [22:40:15] *** Quits: xenos1984 (~xenos1984@2d61-e7c7-d0d4-0932-d480-87c4-07d0-2001.dyn.estpak.ee) (Quit: Leaving.) [22:47:58] so you clicked like 5 times and then it went to the menu? [22:51:12] depends, it's a bit random [22:51:23] sometimes only twice [22:52:30] really odd. i've never seen that. but we'll figure it out [22:53:11] cool, I'll be working on your layouts.. [22:53:15] for the maps [22:54:30] awesome [23:07:55] *** Quits: DuncanDo_ (~DuncanDO@pool-108-26-213-192.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) (Quit: Leaving) [23:58:40] bbs [23:58:51] *** Quits: DuncanDo (~DuncanDo@pool-108-26-213-192.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) (Remote host closed the connection)