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[11:29:01] <Navit> <07viktorgino> @KaZeR its work in progress, I have invested some time into it already, got a prototype that works in 1 car at the moment. Used javascript for the car specific commands, so its easy to add new cars once they're reverse engineered. I'm in the process of creating a proper implementation based on my prototype.
[14:45:44] <Navit> <07KaZeR> @viktorgino nice. I did something similar for the SAE J1850 protocol.
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[14:50:28] <Navit> <07viktorgino> What do you use j1850 for? And also what adapter are you using? Im working with an elm327 clone which supports the most common car protocols, but I find it a bit flaky and mcp2515 bases shields, thats CAN only, but those are a lot better than elm327
[14:51:08] <Navit> <07viktorgino> The car i got the ac working in actually uses j1850 for the ac controls
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[17:19:34] <Navit> <07KaZeR> my original intent was to use the steering wheels buttons to work to control music playback. I was able to figure out a few more things, like gas tank level, which gear was engaged and a few more. Never figured out the AC part, but I think that in my car the controls might have been hooked up to the AC unit directly. This turned out into this navit plugin :
[17:19:34] <Navit> https://github.com/navit-gps/navit/blob/trunk/navit/plugin/j1850/j1850.c  And a bunch of notes about the other messages I was able to decode. I really should document that properly some day
[17:19:52] <Navit> <07KaZeR> I sold that car last year though, so now I need to redo the work for my new car
[17:20:28] <Navit> <07KaZeR> I was using 2 ELM adapter, one USB at first to investigate, and a cheap bluetooth dongle after that that I could leave plugged into the car at all time and was barely visible
[17:22:07] <Navit> <07KaZeR> The USB one is a "ScanTool 423001 ElmScan 5 Compact" which seems to have been discontinued, at least on amazon
[17:22:26] <Navit> <07KaZeR> the bluetooth one is this one : https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009NPAORC/
[17:40:51] <jkoan> hi kazer
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[17:46:20] <gernot2> hi
[17:47:40] <kazer> hi gernot2  and jkoan 
[17:47:57] <kazer> jkoan: your bookmark PR is ready to be merged, FYI :) thanks for finishing that
[17:48:48] <jkoan> i supmitted the pr, i wont merge it
[17:50:05] <jkoan> *submitted 
[17:50:11] <gernot2> kazer: wiki spam is very heavy at the moment. Real bad.
[17:50:30] <gernot2> Think about rollback
[17:50:39] <jkoan> gernot2: yes, this is why we migrate to read the docs
[17:51:13] <Navit> <11aerostitch> Hi guys
[17:51:28] <Navit> <11aerostitch> Kazer: how can I make https://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/Submitting_patches read only?
[17:52:02] <jkoan> protect it :)
[17:52:47] <Navit> <11aerostitch> With my life, I will! 😄
[17:53:49] <Navit> <11aerostitch> I probably don't have the permission :\
[17:55:41] <gernot2> very good
[18:04:38] <kazer> jkoan: well the PR is approved, imo it's good practice for the poster to merge
[18:05:58] <Navit> <07KaZeR> @aerostitch  you're a wiki admin now, congrats!
[18:06:47] <kazer> gernot2: still interested in building a list of recent spammers? i'll kill their accounts and contributions after
[18:09:10] <gernot2> ok
[18:09:43] <gernot2> i have the list last time we talked
[18:11:08] <gernot2> kazer: what to do with the list?
[18:13:07] <kazer> i can use my script against it. can you pastebin it maybe?
[18:13:23] <gernot2> open for all?
[18:13:34] <kazer> yeah, they are spammers, fuck them :)
[18:13:41] <Navit> <07KaZeR> @aerostitch  i added a warning box to some of the pages we moved : https://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/Basic_configuration
[18:15:36] <gernot2> kazer: navit.pastebin.com is offline
[18:15:57] <kazer> that's possible indeed. Number6 wasn't this hosted on your server?
[18:16:43] <Number6> no, I only hosted the IRC logs
[18:16:52] <kazer> ok thanks
[18:22:15] <gernot2> kazer: i have a list with 1200 Users. 
[18:22:22] <kazer> wow nice
[18:30:15] <gernot2> kazer: https://pastebin.com/xfFhKi5G
[18:30:46] <gernot2> Just have a short check for well known names ;-)
[18:37:49] <kazer> thanks!
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[19:17:04] <Navit> <11aerostitch> Why not stop any further user registration?
[19:17:25] <Navit> <11aerostitch> What's left of the wiki is publicly accessible
[19:18:05] <Navit> <11aerostitch> and AFAIK there hasn't been anything created in trac in a long time
[19:19:07] <Navit> <11aerostitch> and trac is publicly accessible without an account right?
[19:19:21] <Navit> <11aerostitch> (for read I mean)
[19:32:59] <Navit> <05jkoan> That's true @aerostitch
[19:34:32] <Navit> <05jkoan> @KaZeR i have the exact opposite opinion. If I create a pull request I don't like to merge it if there is a team with other members then me (doc and translations are exceptions for example)
[20:15:45] <gernot2> by
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[20:23:49] <Navit> <11aerostitch> Papa was a rolling stone...
[20:24:00] <Navit> <11aerostitch> Wherever he laid his hat was his hooooome
[20:30:08] <Navit> <11aerostitch> Sorry got the song in my head, trying to pass it on, but it seems stuck there for good 😄
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