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[08:52:25] <Navit> <jkoan> @ilovekiruna : The problem with the Mapservers is that as far I know only @KaZeR  (kazer) is able to do maintenance on them as the code is more or less closed source. That's the reason I am researching about solutions for building a new Mapserver software. I got something working, but this only works for none 64bit zip files and for now not streamed over http.
[08:54:16] <Navit> <jkoan> Also while we're at rebuilding the Mapservers I want to do proper load balancing and add a API so the fixed Table of downloads can be removed. This also opens up the possibility to write a real download plugin within C to be used by all platforms
[08:55:48] <Navit> <jkoan> I dokumented some of those ideas here: https://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/Mapserver_rewrite
[08:57:22] <Navit> <jkoan> in a perfect world i would also love to build an improved version of the binfile-Plugin hat is capable of updating itself by only downloading new content, but this will be a point for later
[10:00:49] <Navit> <ilovekiruna> could we trigger @KaZeR  by mail again?
[10:02:15] <Navit> <ilovekiruna> i just checked manually in browser
[10:07:39] <Navit> <ilovekiruna> seems like only maps6 works
[10:08:01] <Navit> <ilovekiruna> should we maybe then make that the URL in the android app?
[10:08:39] <Navit> <ilovekiruna> maps9 and maps3 dont seem to work
[10:11:02] <Navit> <ilovekiruna> so change this one: https://github.com/navit-gps/navit/blob/1e32e2ed7d76851dcfcef95280d52bb8693c6c08/navit/android/src/org/navitproject/navit/NavitMapDownloader.java#L686
[10:11:11] <Navit> <ilovekiruna> from maps to maps6
[10:11:36] <Navit> <ilovekiruna> as a quick fix
[10:11:44] <Navit> <ilovekiruna> what do you think @jkoan ?
[10:12:15] <Navit> <ilovekiruna> same here: https://github.com/navit-gps/navit/blob/1e32e2ed7d76851dcfcef95280d52bb8693c6c08/navit/android/src/org/navitproject/navit/NavitMapDownloader.java#L817
[10:14:16] <Navit> <jkoan> i already mailed him on 2021-03-07 but for Twitter and Sourceforge
[10:14:32] <Navit> <ilovekiruna> any response?
[10:15:05] <Navit> <jkoan> interesting, i didn't know that we have 3 map servers, i've only heraered of 2 servers
[10:15:26] <Navit> <ilovekiruna> @jkoan : I could be as simple with the other servers that their hdd is having no free space left
[10:15:45] <Navit> <ilovekiruna> too bad that only @KaZeR  can access them :-(
[10:15:55] <Navit> <jkoan> nop. no reponse at all. also for the messages i send him here on Discord (for infrastructur topics, wiki,...) i got no response
[10:16:16] <Navit> <ilovekiruna> because generally all three are up and show something in the web browser
[10:16:32] <Navit> <ilovekiruna> they only seem to not produce any stream
[10:18:00] <Navit> <ilovekiruna> what do you think about my "workaround"
[10:18:48] <Navit> <jkoan> the question would be how long this would take to brake again
[10:18:59] <Navit> <ilovekiruna> good question
[10:19:49] <Navit> <jkoan> last time only maps3 worked
[10:20:36] <Navit> <jkoan> so probably its a problem with some automated script, deployment, cron whatever
[10:20:48] <Navit> <ilovekiruna> the mapserver repo was not useful, right?
[10:20:48] <Navit> <jkoan> as i said, i dont have acces to those mapservers
[10:22:18] <Navit> <jkoan> one sec, will look at it again, but i dont think so
[10:22:23] <Navit> <ilovekiruna> https://github.com/navit-gps/mapserver
[10:22:27] <Navit> <ilovekiruna> this i talk about
[10:24:58] <Navit> <jkoan> yes, from what i can see this isn't useful for our problem. Also even when we got a new perfect software ready we need the help of @KaZeR to bring it up to the servers
[10:25:18] <Navit> <jkoan> i only got access to one aws server which is hosting the wiki, forum,...
[10:25:28] <Navit> <ilovekiruna> why would we need him?
[10:25:39] <Navit> <jkoan> and also i dont have acces to any domain config
[10:25:45] <Navit> <jkoan> for the deployment
[10:25:52] <Navit> <ilovekiruna> I mean we could choose a different domain
[10:26:05] <Navit> <ilovekiruna> and then just change the two code locations, I mentioned
[10:26:37] <Navit> <ilovekiruna> or do I miss the point?
[10:26:46] <Navit> <jkoan> yes, codewise, but then all users would need to be be told the new mapserver, docs need to be adjusted and so one
[10:27:02] <Navit> <jkoan> for those manual downloads
[10:27:12] <Navit> <jkoan> the code locations are "only" android
[10:27:15] <Navit> <ilovekiruna> there ofc you are right
[10:27:27] <Navit> <ilovekiruna> what I mostly had in mind now was the android part, I admit
[15:42:00] <Navit> <jkoan> also interesting for todays discussion: https://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/User:Tryagain/Map_replication
[19:32:30] <Navit> <jkoan> @ilovekiruna like the last link I shared the pro would be that we could even use IPFS to distribute the files
[21:44:36] <Navit> <ilovekiruna> @jkoan  really very interesting, find it also still a bit strange that the server code is proprietary