[17:16:49] *** Quits: Navit (~Navit@ec2-34-214-224-248.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com) (Remote host closed the connection) [18:04:28] *** Quits: owlman (~owlman@202.92.105.238) (*.net *.split) [18:07:05] *** Joins: owlman (~owlman@202.92.105.238) [20:33:15] *** Joins: mvglasow (~mvglasow@dslb-088-064-109-229.088.064.pools.vodafone-ip.de) [20:34:18] hi folks, after updating from Android 10 to 11, Navit gives me a black screen instead of the map on startup (OSD is there, though), any ideas? [20:35:02] default path should be /sdcard/Android/data/org.navitproject.navit [20:35:15] all perms are granted [20:36:35] also, it seems my custom navit.xml is being ignored and Navit is using the default one [20:43:22] anyone have experience with Navit in Android 11? do I need to change anything? [21:00:07] I am seeing this in the logcat: [21:00:09] W itproject.navit: type=1400 audit(0.0:479): avc: denied { read } for name="sdcard" dev="tmpfs" ino=6474 scontext=u:r:untrusted_app_29:s0:c244,c256,c512,c768 tcontext=u:object_r:mnt_sdcard_file:s0 tclass=lnk_file permissive=0 app=org.navitproject.navit [21:00:52] and for Files and Media permission I can only sleect "Media only" or deny permission [21:11:55] just added MANAGE_EXTERNAL_STORAGE to the manifest and rebuilt Navit [21:12:44] now I can grant complete file access again, but behavior remains the same, access to /mnt/sdcard/org.navitproject.navit/files is denied [22:12:13] I think I have found the root issue: https://developer.android.com/about/versions/11/privacy/storage#app-specific-external [22:12:41] > Starting in Android 11, apps cannot create their own app-specific directory on external storage. [22:14:26] or does that just mean we cannot *create* that dir but still use the one provided by the system?